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Gusington

#135
July 19, 2016, 08:39:05 PM
Most of the time it's cars but sometimes there is grenade practice to watch out for and sometimes they are moving a howitzer across base which can get dicey.
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Staggerwing

#136
July 19, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
They won't let you have a sidearm but they let you guys have a howitzer? Are there that many mountain snow-packs in your area that need controlled avalanches?
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Sir Slash

#137
July 19, 2016, 09:32:01 PM
That must be a Bitch to try and parallel park.
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Boggit

#138
July 19, 2016, 11:16:14 PM
Quote from: Gusington on July 19, 2016, 05:59:44 PM
Sorry yes State Guard. Some State Guards are armed...like Texas. Many are not, like NY or CA. Some fall somewhere in between, like VA.

A second soldier with me would at least put my mind at ease a little bit. Standing post alone for hours can drive you crazy.
Has anyone raised the issue of vicarious liability of the State as an employer in the event that State Guard's are targeted? I'm assuming that the State as an employer, has a duty of care towards the State Guards? Given that it's not unforeseeable in the current climate that some nut might take a shot at State Guard's, isn't it reasonable to allow them side arms when in uniform off base?
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Gusington

#139
July 20, 2016, 08:53:55 AM
We have more lawyers in the Guard than any other career type. Liability is the most often cited reason why we are NOT armed.

And the howitzer wasn't ours, it belonged to either the National Guard or regular Army, who we share the base with.

I don't know who owned the training grenades :)
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Sir Slash

#140
July 20, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
I for one would feel much more safe knowing that lawyers are protecting me on weekends. And holidays too probably. Hope I don't get sued for posting this.  :P  Here in my hometown, we have a Redneck Militia. It's two fat, white guys in a pick-up truck with a Rebel flag drinking beer and throwing the cans out the windows at people. It's not very effective but it's cheap.
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Steelgrave

#141
July 20, 2016, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on July 20, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
I for one would feel much more safe knowing that lawyers are protecting me on weekends. And holidays too probably. Hope I don't get sued for posting this.  :P  Here in my hometown, we have a Redneck Militia. It's two fat, white guys in a pick-up truck with a Rebel flag drinking beer and throwing the cans out the windows at people. It's not very effective but it's cheap.

They're actually a franchise, I've seen several in places I've lived    :P

Boggit

#142
July 20, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

SirAndrewD

#143
July 21, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Saw this one last night. 

Miami PD hasn't really come up with an explanation on this yet, but I'd wager that right now cops are pretty on edge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/index.html
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Staggerwing

#144
July 21, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 21, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Saw this one last night. 

Miami PD hasn't really come up with an explanation on this yet, but I'd wager that right now cops are pretty on edge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/index.html

WTF?!?
That could be any of several dedicated folks who work with my disabled sons. There is something wrong with that cop who fired- "why did you shoot me?" "I don't know..." I mean, really- WTF?
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Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

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'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
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mirth

#145
July 21, 2016, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 21, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 21, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Saw this one last night. 

Miami PD hasn't really come up with an explanation on this yet, but I'd wager that right now cops are pretty on edge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/index.html

WTF?!?
That could be any of several dedicated folks who work with my disabled sons. There is something wrong with that cop who fired- "why did you shoot me?" "I don't know..." I mean, really- WTF?

WTF is right.
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SirAndrewD

#146
July 21, 2016, 07:55:56 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 21, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 21, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Saw this one last night. 

Miami PD hasn't really come up with an explanation on this yet, but I'd wager that right now cops are pretty on edge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/index.html

WTF?!?
That could be any of several dedicated folks who work with my disabled sons. There is something wrong with that cop who fired- "why did you shoot me?" "I don't know..." I mean, really- WTF?

Just from what I can see on the full video, the only even slight explanation I can see was that the officer might have been firing on the completely disarmed but clearly upset autistic man, and possibly hit the caregiver accidentally. 

Still pretty unacceptable, especially with the officer saying "I don't know" to the question of why he felt it appropriate to fire. 

The caregiver in this was doing his best to keep the man in his care safe, and put himself in the line of fire to try to deescalate the situation.  Really a pretty sad situation.  I'm just glad the man survived and is likely about to be due a huge settlement from the city of Miami.
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mirth

#147
July 21, 2016, 07:59:22 PM Last Edit: July 21, 2016, 09:00:51 PM by mirth
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 21, 2016, 07:55:56 PM
I'm just glad the man survived

Me too. Multiple shots at him and he only took one in the leg. He's fortunate to be alive.
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Gusington

#148
July 21, 2016, 08:38:09 PM
Oy vey...just what everyone needed right now. 'I don't know...' :/
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Greybriar

#149
July 21, 2016, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 21, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
Saw this one last night. 

Miami PD hasn't really come up with an explanation on this yet, but I'd wager that right now cops are pretty on edge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-involved-shooting/index.html

What the hell is the matter with those cops? Are they trying to make matters so much worse as to start a war?! :o
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