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Started by Grim.Reaper, October 11, 2016, 01:50:42 PM

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Grim.Reaper

Looks like information will be released this Thursday on new features.....BETA should start soon since game due out on 11/4.  Made mention of this in the Hockey thread, but did not want to go too much off topic there...

https://twitter.com/milesSI/status/785899353030266880

If anyone is aware of a good strategy guide out there on how a person can truly understand this game (i.e. loan system, formations, tactics, etc.), would appreciate pointing me in the right direction...

KyzBP

 I've been playing this game for about 16 years now and each version has some sneaky surprises that the previous version didn't have.  I don't know if there is any one strategy guide that would be relevant to all or even most versions.  I will list some of the better sites that may answer some questions. 
For the record, I've never come close to mastering this game.  There are guys who figure it out almost immediately and complain that the game is broken or too easy.  I've never been in that camp.  Being an American and having only the most basic understanding of soccer (football :-\) keeps each edition very challenging.

Links:
https://sortitoutsi.net/
http://www.fmscout.com/
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/
http://fmarchived.com/

Some of these should help.

Grim.Reaper

Thanks for all the info...I'll check them out....I am not necessarily looking for strategy to beat the game, but just understand the concepts....I have no idea what type of tactics/formations I should use based on the personnel on my team...have very little knowledge on how loans and sharing players work.  Stuff like that I am trying to grasp just so I understand why I would do things within the game.

KyzBP

I totally understand where you're coming from.  There's guys that can look at a team and slap together a tactic that will shovel in goals.  When I try I usually end up getting spanked all around the pitch.  Some of those sites have guides to understanding what each attribute does and how it effects each position.  The game itself has gotten a lot better by providing mouseovers that have pretty clear explanations.

I hope that helps a little. 

Grim.Reaper

Thanks and I'll take any information I can get...I also found this site that I am looking over at the moment....

http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/

JudgeDredd

#5
I don't see a mention of a better representation of the game. I found the current one pretty poor. Especially with what's out there for Football Manager
oops - wrong thread  :idiot2:
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FlickJax

This will be the first year I haven't pre-ordered/first day bought since the very first Championship Manager many moons ago. Although I enjoyed FM2016 I think recent iterations have gone too far away from football and down the relationships route and it has now way too much effect on the game.

Yes teams get unhappy players but no where near as many as the game gives you now :(  Will wait for a sale.

chemkid

Quote from: FlickJax on October 12, 2016, 02:11:56 AM
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Yes teams get unhappy players but no where near as many as the game gives you now :(  Will wait for a sale.
same here.
i wonder if someone will rather concentrate his scripting skills towards an 'ELIZA - Computer Therapy Tool for FM' instead of a better scouting helper?!  :D

beers!

undercovergeek

Quote from: FlickJax on October 12, 2016, 02:11:56 AM
This will be the first year I haven't pre-ordered/first day bought since the very first Championship Manager many moons ago. Although I enjoyed FM2016 I think recent iterations have gone too far away from football and down the relationships route and it has now way too much effect on the game.

Yes teams get unhappy players but no where near as many as the game gives you now :(  Will wait for a sale.

This is why i stopped - admittedly earlier than you in 12 but compared to the pure football joy of CM and the early FMs it became too HR Manager 2015 for me, I liked the asides for the contract negotiations but I wanted to be a coach, pick my teams, bring in unknowns and raise them to gods, not do half time talks, touch line talks and worry about morale

Grim.Reaper

#9
Isn't the "touch" version of the game meant for the more simplistic play through where you have less to worry about and more focus on the coaching aspect?  When I read the description that is what it sounds like but I haven't played that mode myself.

Description...

FOOTBALL MANAGER TOUCH 2016
Designed for managers who prefer a more streamlined, faster-paced experience, Football Manager Touch 2016 focuses on the core managerial duties while still delivering an ultra-realistic matchday through the 3D match engine.

Grim.Reaper

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 12, 2016, 12:33:17 AM
I don't see a mention of a better representation of the game. I found the current one pretty poor. Especially with what's out there for Football Manager

Just curious what you meant by representation, the graphics? The user interface?

JudgeDredd

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 12, 2016, 04:19:22 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 12, 2016, 12:33:17 AM
I don't see a mention of a better representation of the game. I found the current one pretty poor. Especially with what's out there for Football Manager

Just curious what you meant by representation, the graphics? The user interface?
Sorry - I posted this in the wrong thread - it was meant for FHM3
Alba gu' brath
Jarhead - I hate people

Grim.Reaper

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 12, 2016, 04:26:08 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 12, 2016, 04:19:22 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 12, 2016, 12:33:17 AM
I don't see a mention of a better representation of the game. I found the current one pretty poor. Especially with what's out there for Football Manager

Just curious what you meant by representation, the graphics? The user interface?
Sorry - I posted this in the wrong thread - it was meant for FHM3

Gotcha

Nefaro

#13
Quote from: FlickJax on October 12, 2016, 02:11:56 AM
This will be the first year I haven't pre-ordered/first day bought since the very first Championship Manager many moons ago. Although I enjoyed FM2016 I think recent iterations have gone too far away from football and down the relationships route and it has now way too much effect on the game.

Yes teams get unhappy players but no where near as many as the game gives you now :(  Will wait for a sale.

Agreed.

This aspect has been pretty damn annoying the last couple years.  Much more akin to babysitting jealous two-year olds, the way they have it modeled.

I started playing in "Classic" mode to get away from all that bullshit.  But it's missing some of the special things (drafting in the MLS, rules, etc) and I don't think they bother adding such missing league aspects in new editions either.   Probably not such a big deal if you're running European Leagues since it's based on their simple ones.

Grim.Reaper

Nobody going to rain on my parade:)  I am going to figure this game out this year and enjoy the darn thing one way or another!