Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[Labbug]

It's funny that no one is considering that Hamill might have actually changed his mind, rather than have Disney change it for him. 

Isn't that at least a possibility?

Since there are few people of principle left in Hollywood, that is highly likely.

[acctingman]

This forum is so jaded!  :P

[Barthheart]

I've seen it twice. Really enjoyed it for what it is.

I consider myself a huge SW fan, but I'm not overly critical of these movies. Everyone has a right to blast something for what ever reason they want, but I chuckle at the over the top critical bashing of a movie (and in fairness the over gushing of a movie too).

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I choose to go into these movies with an open mind. I don't go in as a critical thinking adult. I go in as a wide eyed 10 yr old (the same 10 year old who first saw the original).

Geek on Grogs  O0

This.
My wife and I saw it yesterday and we both enjoyed it. Sure I cringed at the "bombers in space" and the slow speed chase but my wife didn't catch those things as she's not a war happy nerd that I am.

One of the things I think we, us old farts, need to get over is that the movies are made for teenagers not grown adults with sharply reasoning minds and years of life experience.

The original movies were made for teens and that's about where all of us saw them the first time. And somehow we expected them to mature with us. Well they didn't, they aren't being made for us old jaded farts. Get over it.  :P

[OJsDad]

grown adults with sharply reasoning minds

Well, that leaves most of us out!

[undercovergeek]

It's funny that no one is considering that Hamill might have actually changed his mind, rather than have Disney change it for him. 

Isn't that at least a possibility?

It made 800 million in 2 weeks - and they killed him off - I think they don't give a fk what he thinks

[Sir Slash]

Changed his mind he could have. But a Disney-Force Mind Trick I suspect.

[JasonPratt]

I don't blame him being bitter about how things have turned out, beyond his control. Or, really, for protecting himself from litigation. Or who knows, maybe his about-face is genuine somehow.  <:-)

It's funny that no one is considering that Hamill might have actually changed his mind, rather than have Disney change it for him. 

Isn't that at least a possibility?

::) It's funny that your question immediately followed my last statement that "maybe his about-face is genuine somehow". Which I thought amounted to considering his change of mind an actual possibility.


As to how his about-face might be genuine somehow, I came up with a plausible theory this morning while doing nothing useful at the moment with my life.  >:D L:-)

The short version is that someone pointed out to him that his comments are giving Alex Jones ammunition to complain about the radical-left thrust of the film, and he suddenly understood the film in a new light that hadn't occurred to him before -- or at least he's now glad it's annoying those imperial nazis over there, so he's willing to back it now.

The longer version is that the films have always had a subtle but real radical-left slant, ever since Lucas wanted to make Apocalypse Now but left that for his buddy Coppola while he went off to do Star Wars instead: a film that Lucas and his cast saw as evocative of the Viet Cong standing up to the Imperial United States (except with an outcome far more palatable than what really happened). Mark Hamill still runs that way, as evidenced by some of his commentary during recent weeks while he was barely restraining himself from badmouthing the film. If he ever read the many thinkpieces friendly to the film's thrust, from a radical left perspective, he'd naturally be in a position to legitimately change his mind to some real extent about the cultural merits of the film. (And then of course add the bitter tears of the people he regards as the imperialist nazi-types.)


This theory fits a genuine change of perspective about the merits of the film, in a way that makes sense to his cultural beliefs, which he genuinely might not have been in a position to notice before. It also makes sense to the content of his about-face comments so far.

[besilarius]

Just saw it with the family and we liked it.
For what it's worth, it seems to follow rather closely to Lucas' avowed intent to recreate a Saturday morning serial.  Like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers. 
In those movie serials, logic often went out the door.  Ridiculous things happened, and people made stupid errors.  It wasn't high art and was never meant to be anything but a fun show.
The bomber attack was kind of silly, but my take is that it follows another one of Lucas' tropes.  He mentioned in an interview his admiration for the average american joe who fought and won World War II.
Thinking about that sequence, the thought came that Poe was Cdr Johnny Waldron and the bombers were Torpedo Squadron 8.
This time they managed to put one into Kaga and take her out.

Halfway through the movie, I was guessing that in the next movie, Laura Dern would be Tanaka Raizo and would refight Tassafaranga.

[Gusington]

Going out to see it right now!!!

[Emeraldlis]

I finally saw this tonight ! And fwiw this is my take on it .

*spoiler alerts *........although I'd say the majority of people have seen this movie by now !!

When Kylo Ren kills snoke , I finally believed in him as a villain ! In the force awakens he seemed like a very weak character , I never believed that he would be as bad as a darth Vader character . But , I actually do now think that he can pull of the bad guy villain image that he's supposed to be playing .

It goes without saying , that I loved all of the scenery that was shot on location in Ireland :) And I do think that it added to the whole mystery of the Jedi and Luke .i think the scenery played a character all by itself ....but that just might be my artsy tendencies !

The explosion of the dreadnought was beyond awesome  :D at the beginning of the movie .And there was also another explosion , and it was silent to begin with , and I thought that had a huge impact dramatically .

It annoyed me that Luke just disappeared into the light  He was one of the major characters ,I think they could have come up with something more imaginative than that ! I thought it was sad to see Chewie without Han Solo :(  But that's because I always loved them as a double act .

Overall , I enjoyed it . It's not my favourite . But I still found it entertaining ....it's Star Wars , as soon as the opening words appear ...in a galaxy far far away ...I get goosebumps , and I'm hooked !! Lol . I guess I'm easy prey for Disney , so be it :)

[MetalDog]

I saw it with my daughter and her boyfriend.  They were running late because of traffic and I was annoyed and getting snippy.  They didn't get to the theater until after the posted start time.  Now I'm really annoyed.  We hustle into the building and take a minute to figure out where to redeem our tickets purchased via internet, which doesn't improve my mood.  Finally, we get to the doors into the movie and as we are walking up the ramp, scrolling up the screen is the opening scroll.  Instant goosebumps!  I threw my arms straight above my head and silently cheered, "We made it right on time!!!"

For what it's worth, it seems to follow rather closely to Lucas' avowed intent to recreate a Saturday morning serial.  Like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers. 
In those movie serials, logic often went out the door.  Ridiculous things happened, and people made stupid errors.  It wasn't high art and was never meant to be anything but a fun show.

I was always under that impression, too.

[Gusington]

I thought it was a little bloated and could have been cut down to about 1 hour 45 minutes, but other than that I thought it was very good. I also loved the destruction of the star destroyer. And the humor was a little much, but I appreciated it. Out of the last three films I still like Rogue One the best, then probably The Last Jedi, and then The Force Awakens. Of course my all time favorite is Empire :)

I find myself missing the old characters, but that's probably because I am now...older :/ It was good to see Luke again.

Oh and the dreadnought was beyond bad ass. To avoid difficulties with physics in Star Wars movies I just turn my brain off. I enjoyed the bomber sequence.

[Nefaro]

Out of the last three films I still like Rogue One the best...

I still wonder what Rogue One would've been like before the execs had it chopped & re-filmed.  It was reportedly a darker war movie before they redid some of it.

I would like to have seen the war movie version.  But I guess Disney was too piss-scared people would take their 8-year olds to see Hamburger-Hill-In-Space?  Booo.  I want some grim offshoots of the IP; something a bit different.  Not more ewoks or stuffed porg toy advertising.

Guess I said the same thing about Star Trek movies.  *shrug*  What can I say?  I grew up watching war movies with my old man, not Disney.  No complaints at all.  ;)

[JudgeDredd]

I thought it was a little bloated and could have been cut down to about 1 hour 45 minutes, but other than that I thought it was very good. I also loved the destruction of the star destroyer. And the humor was a little much, but I appreciated it. Out of the last three films I still like Rogue One the best, then probably The Last Jedi, and then The Force Awakens. Of course my all time favorite is Empire :)

I find myself missing the old characters, but that's probably because I am now...older :/ It was good to see Luke again.

Oh and the dreadnought was beyond bad ass. To avoid difficulties with physics in Star Wars movies I just turn my brain off. I enjoyed the bomber sequence.

I couldn't agree more - with all of this
O0

[Emeraldlis]

Rogue one is my favourite too. I saw it twice in the cinema, and the ending gets me everytime  :'(  I think it'll become a classic in time.