Paradox's Upcoming Game - Imperator: Rome ...Excellent News!

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Gusington

I think I am the same as Hof. I want to like these games I just have a hard time enjoying them.

For me it's a choice between Imperator and Aggressors.

I want to get one, just haven't decided which one yet.
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JasonPratt

Imperator will (a) look a lot better; and (b) be based on a long-polished game system which will (c) provide a more detailed political experience of managing a country during the time period. Along with ongoing expansions. (A never-ending stream of game-breaking expansions...  >:D )

They're quite different game systems providing rather different ways of playing. Both are worth getting, but having actually played Aggressors if I could get one it would be the other.

Bonus points for Imperator if they find a way to connect it with the earliest CK2 start.
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Quote from: Gusington on April 20, 2019, 02:02:21 PM
I think I am the same as Hof. I want to like these games I just have a hard time enjoying them.

For me it's a choice between Imperator and Aggressors.

I want to get one, just haven't decided which one yet.


Do you mean Imperator Rome V Aggressors.......or as I suspect....do you mean Imperator v Field of Glory Empires.....a much fairer comparison ?😉
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malize

Quote from: solops on August 29, 2018, 12:00:46 PM
EU Rome came out years ago. Is this an update or something new?

It's not as new as peeps think.  The underlying stuff you see in the beta shots is from EU:Rome, same base resources, same unit types, etc. they've basically updated it to current engine and done an update with lessons learned from other titles.   

So it's not EU:Rome, but it isn't something entirely fresh and new either.

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Quote from: devoncop on April 20, 2019, 03:32:30 PM
Do you mean Imperator Rome V Aggressors.......or as I suspect....do you mean Imperator v Field of Glory Empires.....a much fairer comparison ?😉

I suspect he's buying both of those. I KNOW I AM!!  :D

(Then again, I already have Aggressors, so opportunity costs are already sunk there...  ;D )
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Gusington

Field of Glory - Empires is a no brainer for me. But I have a long sordid history with Paradox games and just not being able to enjoy them. I am wondering if the same will happen with Imperator and if I am better off getting Aggressors instead.
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Anguille

Quote from: malize on April 20, 2019, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: solops on August 29, 2018, 12:00:46 PM
EU Rome came out years ago. Is this an update or something new?

It's not as new as peeps think.  The underlying stuff you see in the beta shots is from EU:Rome, same base resources, same unit types, etc. they've basically updated it to current engine and done an update with lessons learned from other titles.   

So it's not EU:Rome, but it isn't something entirely fresh and new either.
This is what i am seing as well...looks very similar.

devoncop

Quote from: Gusington on April 20, 2019, 09:46:31 PM
Field of Glory - Empires is a no brainer for me. But I have a long sordid history with Paradox games and just not being able to enjoy them. I am wondering if the same will happen with Imperator and if I am better off getting Aggressors instead.

Ah...now I understand.


I tried Aggressors but it was too abstract for me but I know it does have a lot of fans.

Like you though..FOG Empires is already in the financial debit column for my accounts this year....It is non negotiable  ;)
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Hofstadter

Quote from: Tpek on April 20, 2019, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: mikeck on April 20, 2019, 07:24:01 AM
I don't understand. Why can't you have your own goals in EU? I do it all the time.

I think he means that he, personally, is not very good at setting goals up for himself in such video games, and thus prefers less sandbox-y games.

Yeah pretty much this. Conquering is all i know :-[ :-[
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Quote from: Anguille on April 21, 2019, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: malize on April 20, 2019, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: solops on August 29, 2018, 12:00:46 PM
EU Rome came out years ago. Is this an update or something new?

It's not as new as peeps think.  The underlying stuff you see in the beta shots is from EU:Rome, same base resources, same unit types, etc. they've basically updated it to current engine and done an update with lessons learned from other titles.   

So it's not EU:Rome, but it isn't something entirely fresh and new either.
This is what i am seing as well...looks very similar.

To be fair, isn't that the same thing generally did with Crusader Kings and EU which are enjoying reasonable success?  Both had core foundation set in their prior versions, with new engine and lessons learned from them?  But both were fundamentally the same concept, which isn't a surprise for a Paradox game?

I guess to me no surprise, nor did I expect it to be revolutionary...just more evolutionary.  I suck at all the Paradox games, but still looking forward to it and it is a little easier to get into, then another plus.

JasonPratt

CK2 in particular is, in effect, one of the world's greatest RPGs. (Not so much EU4 due to the different mechanics, much less Vicky2 or the HOI games.)

I suspect Imperator will be similar.


If you've had trouble getting into the Paradox games, then really that settles things Gus! -- Imperator is going to be a Paradox engine game (not sure if it's an upgraded Clausewitz engine again, or a new engine, yet). There's no reason to expect things to be different from past experience.

Just time to watch some Aggressor LPs or AARs, and see if the game mechanics are for you.  O:-)

(And/or wait patiently for FoG:Emp and/or other games to release.  >:D )
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Imperator is built on the Clausewitz engine.
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solops

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 21, 2019, 09:28:44 AM
Imperator is built on the Clausewitz engine.
Given the other choices available or pending for this time period I am not inclined toward this title. If it is still using the same old engine then that pretty well seals it for me, especially given Paradox's DLC habits.
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