Sea Power: Naval Combat in the Missile Age

Started by Jarhead0331, December 18, 2019, 03:15:05 PM

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Sir Slash

Great pics JH. Looks like you've got the game mastered. The Iranians should have stayed home today.  :bangbang:
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

Jarhead0331

Late 1970s AA is impressive...



...but sadly, not always effective.



I think we're probably going to lose this ship.

Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


undercovergeek

Is there functionality yet to upload home made scenarios for the community

Jarhead0331

Quote from: undercovergeek on November 09, 2024, 08:42:22 AMIs there functionality yet to upload home made scenarios for the community

It will be integrated with Steam workshop. The development build is not though.

Needless to say, the editor is great and the community will provide impressive scenarios, I have no doubt.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


undercovergeek

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 09, 2024, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on November 09, 2024, 08:42:22 AMIs there functionality yet to upload home made scenarios for the community

It will be integrated with Steam workshop. The development build is not though.

Needless to say, the editor is great and the community will provide impressive scenarios, I have no doubt.

Already seen some streamers and yourself design some good what if scenarios

Jarhead0331

Well, you guys should all be enjoying this one by this time tomorrow. It really is an exceptional game.

I've been exploring other time periods for mission editing and I'm disappointed by some glaring omissions. For instance, I was really interested in creating a Vietnam-era mission off of Yankee Station in the 1967 time frame. I was surprised to find no Essex Class carriers in the database. No Ticonderoga. No Hancock, etc. I was also shocked to find no A-4s, no F-105s, no F-8s, no UH-1s, no A-1s, no F-100s, no F-104s, no B-66s. These seem like glaring omissions for a title that is intended to encompass most of the cold war era.

I really hope these get added eventually. 
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Con

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 11, 2024, 09:30:00 PMWell, you guys should all be enjoying this one by this time tomorrow. It really is an exceptional game.

I've been exploring other time periods for mission editing and I'm disappointed by some glaring omissions. For instance, I was really interested in creating a Vietnam-era mission off of Yankee Station in the 1967 time frame. I was surprised to find no Essex Class carriers in the database. No Ticonderoga. No Hancock, etc. I was also shocked to find no A-4s, no F-105s, no F-8s, no UH-1s, no A-1s, no F-100s, no F-104s, no B-66s. These seem like glaring omissions for a title that is intended to encompass most of the cold war era.

I really hope these get added eventually. 
Is it a hope or has there been a roadmap of expansions and units discussed?

Silent Disapproval Robot


Pete Dero

There already are a number of scenarios available in the Steam Workshop, so this looks promising for the future.

10% off on Steam for the next 2 weeks (full price = 49 €).

Jarhead0331

Quote from: Con on November 11, 2024, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 11, 2024, 09:30:00 PMWell, you guys should all be enjoying this one by this time tomorrow. It really is an exceptional game.

I've been exploring other time periods for mission editing and I'm disappointed by some glaring omissions. For instance, I was really interested in creating a Vietnam-era mission off of Yankee Station in the 1967 time frame. I was surprised to find no Essex Class carriers in the database. No Ticonderoga. No Hancock, etc. I was also shocked to find no A-4s, no F-105s, no F-8s, no UH-1s, no A-1s, no F-100s, no F-104s, no B-66s. These seem like glaring omissions for a title that is intended to encompass most of the cold war era.

I really hope these get added eventually. 
Is it a hope or has there been a roadmap of expansions and units discussed?


It has been discussed a lot in beta tester circles. The A-4 and the F-8 are likely...but some of the others are probably a stretch, sadly. The Essex Class of fast carriers would require substantial modelling as their flight decks differ significantly from those of the Kittyhawk and Enterprise era. Others have also raised objections to their survivability in the missile age without CIWS, etc. However, I think scenario designers and modders can play around with this and what I would like to see is the option to limit the use of hulls and aircraft based on date range set. Again though, this should be entirely optional and up to the player, modder, scenario designer, etc.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18



Jarhead0331

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on November 12, 2024, 11:44:46 AMBought and installed. 

I saw you playing. Look forward to your impressions.

The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am that the game focuses on peer vs. peer confrontations between the US and Soviet Union. I would far prefer to have had some of the focus on some of the more interesting conflicts throughout the early and middle Cold War era. Korea, Vietnam, Middle East, etc. I find the technology and tactics of these conflicts to be most intriguing.

Hopefully, these dreams of mine will be addressed through subsequent development, mods, etc.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Silent Disapproval Robot

I suspect there will be a Falklands DLC in the future.  I'd buy it.

CaptainKoloth

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 11, 2024, 09:30:00 PMWell, you guys should all be enjoying this one by this time tomorrow. It really is an exceptional game.

I've been exploring other time periods for mission editing and I'm disappointed by some glaring omissions. For instance, I was really interested in creating a Vietnam-era mission off of Yankee Station in the 1967 time frame. I was surprised to find no Essex Class carriers in the database. No Ticonderoga. No Hancock, etc. I was also shocked to find no A-4s, no F-105s, no F-8s, no UH-1s, no A-1s, no F-100s, no F-104s, no B-66s. These seem like glaring omissions for a title that is intended to encompass most of the cold war era.

I really hope these get added eventually. 

While I fully agree with your statement, to be a bit of a shill, their claim has been that they're focusing on 1960s-1980s and most of those units originated in the 50s, though I'm sure there's a million things that did that are definitely in the game (like the F-4 and MiG-21, to name 2). I think they did say there either will be or is an ability to add your own units though?

Silent Disapproval Robot

#194
Can't play any of the missions.  Apparently there's a bug that kills the game if you rebind any keys to the numpad.  Sadly, the "revert" button on the options screen doesn't revert key bindings.  Gonna try a reinstall.  Hopefully I deleted all the config files.


EDIT:  Thankfully the reset worked.

I'm trying the Battle of Baltim scenario with the Israeli vs Egyptian missile boats.  That was the very first scenario I ever played in the tabletop version of Harpoon way back when I was in high school.