War in the East II

steve58 · June 04, 2020, 10:40:34 AM

Matrixgames is looking for beta testers

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4823288

ArizonaTank · June 04, 2020, 05:20:56 PM

I wish I were retired....

sandman2575 · June 04, 2020, 05:34:01 PM

WitE 2 is entering Beta? <:-)

Seems like a late 2020 release is within the realm of possibility, then?

bobarossa · June 04, 2020, 05:52:50 PM

Quote from: ArizonaTank on June 04, 2020, 05:20:56 PM
I wish I were retired....

That's still not enough time.

Anguille · June 04, 2020, 05:58:36 PM

And i still have to play the first one (i have it but i barely touched it yet)!

Martok · June 05, 2020, 09:16:32 AM

I confess I was about to ask why they were already making a sequel, until I looked at the original WITE's release date. Can't believe it's already been almost a decade. :o

Quote from: Anguille on June 04, 2020, 05:58:36 PM
And i still have to play the first one (i have it but i barely touched it yet)!

Sometimes I think you're even more of a glutton for punishment than I am. Then I look at my list of un-played/underplayed games, and think "never mind"... ::)

Phantom · June 05, 2020, 09:38:50 AM

I'll maybe put them on to some accountants I know...

Anguille · June 05, 2020, 09:52:33 AM

Quote from: Martok on June 05, 2020, 09:16:32 AM
Sometimes I think you're even more of a glutton for punishment than I am. Then I look at my list of un-played/underplayed games, and think "never mind"... ::)

Maybe i am. But i think i slowed down my purchases a lot the last few years....still, i have so many games i don't need to buy any new one until the day i die....

Black Robin · June 05, 2020, 12:06:33 PM

Maybe i am. But i think i slowed down my purchases a lot the last few years....still, i have so many games i don't need to buy any new one until the day i die....
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I need this type of motivation in Life :)

Sir Slash · June 05, 2020, 12:12:31 PM

I'm just hoping this game will have some meat on it's bones. You know, any game you can do a whole turn in under 3 days is just too light for me. ::)

Dammit Carl! · June 05, 2020, 12:30:27 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on June 05, 2020, 12:12:31 PM
I'm just hoping this game will have some meat on it's bones. You know, any game you can do a whole turn in under 3 days is just too light for me. ::)

Break it down to "how many horses are killed to eat this day," level.

sandman2575 · June 05, 2020, 01:47:18 PM

My problem with all the Grigsby games I've poured hours into -- WitP:AE, WitE, WitW -- is that I'm always impatient to try the Grand Campaign. I never really give the smaller scenarios a try. I feel like if I'm not playing the GC, I'm somehow missing out on what the game is 'really' supposed to be. So I start up a GC, spend a few weeks getting a dozen turns in... then realize that I made a terrible blunder around turn 4 and now am screwed, or that the game suddenly just feels way, way too big to manage.

The furthest I've gotten with a GC is WitW. I got from Husky up to the Normandy landings. Sicily was a push-over but Italy a nigh impossible fortress to crack. Tried historical landings in Normandy and AI completely bottled my divisions in the bocage against an iron curtain of Waffen SS divisions and anti-aircraft.

Anyway, I'm sure nothing like this will happen again with WitE2........

Ian C · June 05, 2020, 03:34:37 PM

Quote from: sandman2575 on June 05, 2020, 01:47:18 PM

The furthest I've gotten with a GC is WitW. I got from Husky up to the Normandy landings. Sicily was a push-over but Italy a nigh impossible fortress to crack. Tried historical landings in Normandy and AI completely bottled my divisions in the bocage against an iron curtain of Waffen SS divisions and anti-aircraft.

I've read the manual from cover to cover and started a game of the introductory scenario but I've not ventured in the GC before. it sounds a very promising challenge.

sandman2575 · June 05, 2020, 03:55:43 PM

Quote from: Ian C on June 05, 2020, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: sandman2575 on June 05, 2020, 01:47:18 PM

The furthest I've gotten with a GC is WitW. I got from Husky up to the Normandy landings. Sicily was a push-over but Italy a nigh impossible fortress to crack. Tried historical landings in Normandy and AI completely bottled my divisions in the bocage against an iron curtain of Waffen SS divisions and anti-aircraft.

I've read the manual from cover to cover and started a game of the introductory scenario but I've not ventured in the GC before. it sounds a very promising challenge.

If I could impart some hard-won advice -- Sicily will be considerably easier than it was historically for the Allies, whereas the Italian peninsula will be considerably harder than it was historically. The Axis AI seems to assume that Sicily is a lost cause from the very start (...which it is), and so will try to evacuate the Herman Goering Div. across the strait to the mainland without using it to really engage your forces in Sicily. It will then try to strongly hold Reggio Calabria to prevent your own crossing the strait (this did not happen historically and it has the potential to set back your timetable in Italy significantly). If the Germans manage to establish a line across the peninsula along the parallel of Monte Cassino, get ready for World War One. Stalemate, futile assaults against strongly held positions. Kiss Rome goodbye.

The other piece of advice: do NOT try to recreate the Normandy landing. It's a trap! Bocage hexes are death, and the Germans will reinforce it with their best Waffen SS divs. If I were to do it again, I would definitely try what the Germans thought the Allies were actually trying to do: take Calais! Or possibly Le Harve.

-budd- · June 05, 2020, 05:26:56 PM

It's not a game i buy on release, I'll the let the game simmer thru a few patch cycles these games need....o and a sale. I have around 500 hours into WITE, never played the grand campaign, maybe one day. On the other hand i only have about 10 hours into WITW. Basically i'm in no hurry as i have a lot of play left in both games.