Russia's War Against Ukraine

[SirAndrewD]

Too many players. This is getting as complicated as a Mission Impossible movie.

This is what we were expecting though.

Who really felt Ukraine was the end and only goal?


Russia is trying to rebuild an Empire and that means colonial conquest as well. 

They're getting backing from China and India over it.

The Eastern Coalition is a thing, it's not a fantasy, it's a reality and it's here and now.  Europe doesn't want it to exist and America is busy killing itself and we don't want to see it happening but it is.

[Uberhaus]

Russia, China, and Iran's troll farms play a big role in fomenting dissent throughout the west.  I believe the illegal, Andrey Bezrukov, is the architect of this strategy. He and Yelena Vavilova weren't running around  causing murder and mayhem.  He was looking for ways to bring down the West.

[JasonPratt]

The only good news, sort of, is that China and Russia are both collapsing economically due to bad fiscal management (and bad population management in several ways). Trying to partner up economically with South Africa, which is also swirling down the toilet in recent years, was a bad idea, and Brazil isn't much better. They're all looking to India's economy to save them, and thank God India has started side-eyeing that whole arrangement.

I suppose China could start seizing Russian territory to try to save its own implosion if Russia falls apart first, but unless they RADICALLY improve their management strategies (for example, STOP BEING ASSHOLE DICTATORS) China's only real option, especially in the short term, will be to loot any Russian property and resources they get hold of. Which, after all, is the basic Marxist strategy, but good the hell luck with getting much of anything by looting east of the Urals at this point.

Of course, this is why China was hoping to get access rights to the Black Sea by 'helping' Russia (with plenty of Dr. Evil "fingerquotes".) But if China's own government implodes, even if less drastically than Russia's, then that won't help them.


Oh and they all have rusty nukes to play Russian roulette with. 

[Gusington]

Meanwhile...in Mexico...calls for the War on Drugs to become a hot war - with  American intervention. Just read about this in the NYTimes. Probably deserves its own thread...

[Gusington]

Also, I didn't think this pic was real, but apparently it is. It is supposedly the body of a Russian soldier imprinted into a dirt road outside of Ukrainian village. Jesus.

[GDS_Starfury]

ah yes, a good example of a russian flatnik 

[Sir Slash]

So he's a, 'Good Russian' now eh Star? Poor bastard probably had no idea why he was there or what he was supposed to be doing. I can understand the Ukrainians hatred of Russians for what they've done but this Sum-Bitch wasn't the cause.

[JasonPratt]

Or he might have been part of the cause (kids don't rape themselves to death) -- but we don't know.

God'll judge him fairly; some of us will pray for his soul in any case.

[GDS_Starfury]

I truly don't care slash.  after the things Ive seen these bastards do, I really don't.

there are a lot of photos and videos that I haven't posted due to the extreme graphic nature of them.
I really doubt anything of that nature is making across your news feed.  if they were I don't think you
would be so generous.

[GDS_Starfury]

hey slash, did you even think to wonder why none of this guys buddies stopped to pick him up or why no one ever did?  or maybe ask why follow on vehicles never bothered to avoid running him over and over and over and over.
ya...... fuck russia

[GDS_Starfury]

in other news, three foreign flagged ships led by an Israeli ship have ignored russias threats and are heading to Ukraine to load grain shipments.

[JasonPratt]

Looks like some American air escorts helping provide CAP.

Enforcer updates 30 minute ago:

[JasonPratt]

Some people need to have their asses kicked fatally, no doubt. A lot of people deserve to have fatal ass-kicking, no doubt. "We've all got it coming, kid." -- also, no doubt.

When I was in 5th grade, I was nearly choked to death and simultaenously emasculated by a gang of five other boys who followed the lead of the stronger boy in the group, apparently thinking it would be fun to gang up on a weaker boy. (Also the leader of the attack knew I was sweet on a girl he wanted for himself.)

I think I did pretty well, considering I was ambushed by surprise -- I avoided the emasculation anyway (much to their annoyed surprise), and I would certainly have hurt them as much as I could given any opportunity -- but I wouldn't have survived if an adult hadn't rolled up in a car about a minute into the attack.

Would I have been sorry to cripple or kill any of them? Nope.

Did I want them to suffer forever? Absolutely. Can't say I'm emotionally fond of any troops doing what the Orks have long been proven to often do. That guy in the road might have been one of them. I'll assume he was, for hypothesis sake. Off to the lake of fire with him if so, no problems here!

But I learned long ago (23-1/3 years ago this month    ) that if I'm not even interested in evildoers, including my personal enemies, coming to be good instead of bad someday, then I'm a doer of injustice myself, insisting on final injustice. And that's my personal responsibility.

I'm not a naturally sympathetic person, much less an empathetic one. But I can still pray for that guy in the road (and all his comrades who ran him over and over), that Justice Himself will bring him (and them) to be just someday, and reconcile them with any and all of his victims, whatever that takes, however long that takes, even into the eons of the eons.

It's certainly easier to pray for him now, than to be charitable to him while he's still alive, all things considered. Anyone who can do that, is a LOT better than I am. But I know I should be better, too, so I do what I can.

Slash and some other guys here know what I'm talking about. The same unquenchable fire of Gehenna salting that guy, is salting me, too, and everyone else. That salting is the best of things, and I can either accept it in my heart or not. I might as well accept it sooner rather than later. None of us is getting away from it. It's easier for many other people than for me; but also easier for me than for many other people, I know. I don't blame anyone for that, that's just how it is sometimes. I'm responsible for the attitude of my own heart, that's all.

[GDS_Starfury]

the latest in soviet military hardware. 
fyi, those are tilling disks for farming used at armor.

[Gusington]

I like the hammer and sickle to the left - at least the Russians have stopped trying to hide their neo-Sovietness.