Israel

[GDS_Starfury]

[Gusington]

First 50 hostages, mostly babies and elderly, will be released at 3am local time today in exchange for one day of ceasefire, and the deal is structured to have one ceasefire day added for every additional ten hostages released. Netanyahu is speaking publicly about the deal now.

[Gusington]

Palestinian prisoners also part of deal:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/politics/us-has-working-list-of-hostages-likely-to-be-released-by-hamas-thursday-source-familiar-says/index.html

[GDS_Starfury]

what nice people

Hamas just executed two Palestinians in the city of Tulkarem in the West Bank in accusation of collaborating with Israel.
They hung their bodies on an electricity pole for everyone to see and all gathered to picture it.
Hamas is responsible for killing thousands of Palestinians.

[JasonPratt]

Media: today Palestinian women and children are being released from captivity! ...in exchange for women and children held by Hamas.

Technically true. But the women and children, including infants with their mothers, being released by Hamas, were held captive for the crime of being Jewish. The Palestinian women being held were imprisoned for committing crimes like stabbing people (typically Jews), and the Palestinian children are late-teen boy soldiers not actual infants.

How much the proportion shown in the video holds true, I don't know.

[W8taminute]

Saw this video today and the message is so true.  There is no argument that can be made about this issue.  Either the world will believe it or not.  I will say this though, if the world chooses not to believe they're in for a rude awakening.

[JasonPratt]

Worth keeping in mind that Hamas set the terms 3 to 1.

Israel's version of SNL satire was understandably acidic about the ceasefire purposes (and the BBC). I don't have a direct link, but the first part of it can be found at 7:55 in this video.

[GDS_Starfury]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1728548380694253700

[MikeGER]

I see a boardgame incomming   

"The Gaza"
lead IDF forces removing Hamas from the Gaza strip.
minimise your losses, free hostages, time is running against international political pressure for an onesided undeclared armistice   

the map is already generously generaded for us by the IDF   
 
 https://www.idf.il/ar/%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%B4-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A/%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%B4-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A/swordsofiron-181123-118/

maybe form White Dog Games analog to "The MOG" (my treasuer hunt from the Essen fair this year :-) )
 

[GDS_Starfury]

[steve58]

IDF is flooding the Hamas tunnels.

https://twitter.com/academic_la/status/1732129584777441406

[GDS_Starfury]

about time.  iirc its what the Egyptians did on their side.
of course now it'll be a war crime because Jews....

[JasonPratt]

So, odds on Hamas making sure some hostages drown for the optics? 120% chance, or more like 160%?

I'm not against Israel doing it, but might as well get ready. I haven't kept up on news recently, are all American citizens recovered? If not, would Hamas sacrifice a few here for the optics? "Look, America, Israel drowned your own citizens, make them stop!"

[Gusington]

This response on the genocide of Jews from Harvard, MIT, UPENN...is unbelievable.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/investing/bill-ackman-harvard-penn-antisemitism/index.html

[W8taminute]

^I saw that article earlier this morning as well.  Truly disgusting. 

Congresswoman Elise Stefanik posted on social media condemning the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and UPenn. 

Here is her questioning of Harvard president Claudine Gay.

https://stefanik.house.gov/2023/12/icymi-stefanik-demands-answers-from-harvard-president-claudine-gay-on-harvard-s-failure-to-condemn-antisemitism-and-anti-israel-attacks-on-campus