WTF is this?! (Drones)

[Jarhead0331]

^I post Ward Carroll videos all the time. He is a former F-14 RIO. Usually has good insight and hosts great guests. Typically in the military aviation community.

[bobarossa]

Don't underestimate the ability of the military (or civilian) bureaucracy to poke themselves in the eye.

[JasonPratt]

Since some people have tried to make connections occasionally: these drones are definitely NOT the kind of thing Luis Elizondo and friends have been talking about to Congress the past few years.

Many of the new drone spurts are in fact mis-identified airliners and copters, and then also commercial drones going about their business, with some details being oddly blorched due to phone cameras being unable to focus at night properly. Other recent drone swarms have been more interesting -- but still not the Elizondo style UAPs. To me it seems like the US government does know what's going on about the uptick, because they're doing it, but the uptick itself is causing more of an uptick for various reasons (like the two guys busted on Long Island near Boston Harbor Bay last night for droning too close to an airfield for the lolz or the trolololz apparently.) The two theories about the recent drones (where not otherwise explicable as usual drone and airway stuff) I like best so far are:

(a) the government is doing an exercise which has an intentional side-effect of prodding stronger congressional laws against Chinese-made drones in the US -- in other words grounding practically all drones, due to the CCP using tech in their commercial and private drones to do visual and electronic surveillance. This is a well-known problem apparently (though one I only heard about recently because I only drone during text walls ) and past years have each seen bills attempting to pass through congress for this goal with slight increases each year in yes-votes before being shot down. The calls are already going out (as I saw this morning on the Sunday news in passing) for the next round of anti-Chinese-drone legislation to stop this problem; something the military and intelligence community would both like resolved asap.

(b) the government is doing an exercise with the intentional side-effect of reducing public concern about the weird UAP things Elizondo & Co have been reporting on for a while, by giving the public a superficially similar situation which will be resolved in a conventional manner eventually, as an object lesson not to worry about any of the weirder things if seen or experienced or heard/read about. In other words it's a counter-intelligence op.

I've been meaning to do an update post this year about the UAP government programs as reported by Elizondo's autobiography Immanent released back in early summer or late spring, which features material taken verbally from preparation for committee presentations -- I finished reading it to Mom this fall shortly before Elizondo and associates showed up in the yearly congressional hearing on the topic, and we were both amused at recognizing quotes from his own book.

Anyway the performance factors of exotic UAP being reported by military and intelligence groups over the years, especially the past decade, are VERRRRRY different from what's been seen (mostly seen and heard, including audio-visual) in NJ and elsewhere in the past month-ish so far.

[Pete Dero]

@ Jason

Off topic, but congratulations with post n° 21.000      . 

[JasonPratt]

Thanks, Pete, coming from a spam moderator that means...!

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....uh, I'm probably not spam!