Any War in the Pacific fans looking forward to this one ?

devoncop · October 22, 2025, 12:19:02 PM

https://www.matrixgames.com/news/war-in-spain-1936-39-dev-diary-1

Entirely new engine to beef up the land war mechanics and improve the AI.

First in a series of games using this engine is the hope.

Great theatre that is very under represented.

Hot lead and dirty talk! · October 22, 2025, 01:30:15 PM

Farewell and adieu, to you fair Spanish ladies
Farewell and adieu, to you ladies of Spain
For we received orders for to sail back to Boston
But we hope, very soon, we shall see you again

bobarossa · October 22, 2025, 02:38:10 PM

Definitely looking forward to it. Have read a couple books on it and even have a computer game on it created by a Spaniard, I believe. Can't remember it's name or what the heck I did with it!

Found it! Espana 1936 from AGEOD/Matrix in 2013.

devoncop · October 22, 2025, 03:11:02 PM

Quote from: bobarossa on October 22, 2025, 02:38:10 PMDefinitely looking forward to it. Have read a couple books on it and even have a computer game on it created by a Spaniard, I believe. Can't remember it's name or what the heck I did with it!

Found it! Espana 1936 from AGEOD/Matrix in 2013.

Yes I have that one but I never really got into the Ageod Athena engine. The army organisation and command control was not very user friendly I found.
I think the same designer is behind the SGS games on the SCW but that is too abstract for me....not a criticism of this Matrix offering it appears :-)

W8taminute · October 22, 2025, 08:30:21 PM

I initially was very into the early AGEOD games. But by the time of the WW1 game I got extremely frustrated.

Tanaka · October 23, 2025, 04:21:03 AM

Very excited for War in Spain and the possibilities it brings for future games using the new and improved version of the WITPAE engine! WITPAE is my favorite war gaming engine with the watchable air and naval battles with individual pilots and officers and the fact that this is being improved on especially in the land aspect is HUGE news! Very happy and excited to hear this and that this type of game will live on!

Dammit Carl! · October 23, 2025, 08:09:41 PM

Nice. The interwar period is an era of fascination for me; in as much as the Russo-Japanese War, the Boer War, etc. hinted at the grinder that WW1 would become, the Spanish Civil War, the Italian Ethiopian adventures etc. hinted at the world war that was to come next. I dare say that the fight in Ukraine is as much a watershed moment that points to what to expect in the next big one too.

solops · October 25, 2025, 12:32:19 PM

I have no interest in the conflict and I never liked the Ageod engine.

Skoop · October 25, 2025, 12:39:41 PM

Sounds like this is more related to the witp engine than the ageod engine though. I'm guessing starting with a smaller conflict like Spain will then bring it to the larger ww2 games later.

Tanaka · October 26, 2025, 12:24:10 AM

Quote from: Skoop on October 25, 2025, 12:39:41 PMSounds like this is more related to the witp engine than the ageod engine though. I'm guessing starting with a smaller conflict like Spain will then bring it to the larger ww2 games later.

Yes I am predicting War in the Med...

devoncop · October 26, 2025, 06:42:44 AM

Quote from: Tanaka on October 26, 2025, 12:24:10 AM
Quote from: Skoop on October 25, 2025, 12:39:41 PMSounds like this is more related to the witp engine than the ageod engine though. I'm guessing starting with a smaller conflict like Spain will then bring it to the larger ww2 games later.

Yes I am predicting War in the Med...

If it is the Med theatre I would go so far to say it will be the best treatment of the air and naval struggle (in particular) in the Med by a country mile.

Generally PC games treat the Med as very much a sideshow and at a scale that makes any sort of cat and mouse challenge redundant.

smittyohio · October 27, 2025, 03:52:57 PM

Not bashing the project or anything, but isn't the weakest part of the WitP engine the land campaign?

bobarossa · October 27, 2025, 05:18:40 PM

Quote from: smittyohio on October 27, 2025, 03:52:57 PMNot bashing the project or anything, but isn't the weakest part of the WitP engine the land campaign?

They started with the WITP engine and modified it to greatly expand land combat.

Commander Cody · December 11, 2025, 03:16:32 AM

Will be interesting to see how they improved the ground game. Superficially, using the WITP engine for this war doesn't make sense, as WITP-AE's ground part isn't that great. It's fine for island combat, but not as good for large landmass combat in my opinion. The naval and air aspects can't be beat, though, which makes WITP-AE the best game for the Pacific War.

Cheers,
CC

bobarossa · December 11, 2025, 12:16:24 PM

Dev Diary 2 talks about the changes to ground war from AE.

https://www.matrixgames.com/news/war-in-spain-1936-39-dev-diary-2

Dev Diary 3 talks about AI. Only read a bit of it.

https://www.matrixgames.com/news/war-in-spain-1936-39-dev-diary-3