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Longdan · April 06, 2013, 01:05:12 PM

You never read much of US 90mm guns in action.

Staggerwing · April 06, 2013, 01:36:30 PM

There's a rather famous video and related photos of a showdown between a T26 Pershing and a Panther that had knocked out several Sherms just before. Switch it to 480p before watching.

Staggerwing · April 06, 2013, 01:40:57 PM

Here's a page showing some of the details about the incident.

http://www.anicursor.com/colpicwar2b.html

Keunert · April 06, 2013, 02:28:54 PM

wow just wow

Sir Slash · April 06, 2013, 02:37:14 PM

Great video. Thanks Stagger.

Grim.Reaper · April 06, 2013, 02:45:26 PM

wow...unbelievable footage...

bob48 · April 06, 2013, 04:56:56 PM

Awesome! Thanks Stagger. Now I'll have to go and play the scenario of this in White Star Rising!

Staggerwing · April 06, 2013, 05:17:29 PM

Quote from: bob48 on April 06, 2013, 04:56:56 PM
Awesome! Thanks Stagger. Now I'll have to go and play the scenario of this in White Star Rising!

Damn. I don't know much about White Star Rising. what scale is it at? Single vehicle? I'd love to see the map setup and info card for that scenario.

bob48 · April 06, 2013, 05:26:22 PM

Quote from: Staggerwing on April 06, 2013, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: bob48 on April 06, 2013, 04:56:56 PM
Awesome! Thanks Stagger. Now I'll have to go and play the scenario of this in White Star Rising!

Damn. I don't know much about White Star Rising. what scale is it at? Single vehicle? I'd love to see the map setup and info card for that scenario.

WSR is a great game. Each counter is a platoon, btw. If you have Vassal, then you can download the mod for it (done by our very own Barthheart).

Greybriar · April 06, 2013, 05:39:23 PM

Quote from: Staggerwing on April 06, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
There's a rather famous video and related photos of a showdown between a T26 Pershing and a Panther that had knocked out several Sherms just before. Switch it to 480p before watching....

Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.

Staggerwing · April 06, 2013, 05:44:31 PM

Memory is fickle (at my age) and I should have first reread the link I posted. It turns out that only one Sherm was harmed in the encounter.

Keunert · April 07, 2013, 02:10:09 PM

i feel a bit sorry for all the tankers that were killed in this engagement. this might well have been their last fight in this war and they died instead of returning to their families.

jomni · April 08, 2013, 02:38:53 AM

Anyone played Patton's Best boardgame? One of the most intense tank crew management role playing games I've played.

Regarding the Pershing gunner, at first I wash shocked to think that he kept on shooting despite the crew obviously escaping. How atrocious! But based on the link above, the gunner did not see the crew abandon the tank so he kept firing and thought they died after the 3rd shot.

Longdan · April 08, 2013, 10:27:54 AM

Regardless I do not think he counted them if he saw them, Keeping on shooting is prudent, you can't see much from inside a tank.

Cyrano · April 08, 2013, 10:46:08 AM

I played a LOT of "Patton's Best" once upon a time. I often thought that an Age of Sail game should be built on a similar engine. Retirement project, that.

Re: the video, a remarkable thing. I discussed it at some length with my son and he was clearly struck by the brutality of it. In an urban environment, facing a Panther, I would have kept firing until I had reduced it to slag.

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)