The Deal of the Week, part two!

[JasonPratt]

From what I gather part of the strategy for the US is tio pull back and hunker down for a while - but I just don't get that...like - pull back to where?

And what about that wee island over there...is that useful?

Welcome to the US dilemmas of early WW2 Pacific theater. "Pull back? Pull back to where!?!"

[JudgeDredd]

CoG:EE == Improved yet also buggier edition of the Forge of Freedom engine (which was itself an improved and less buggy edition of the original CoG).

Still, a great choice for the sale. Free boxed upgrade is a great choice, too.

I know nothing about C:NaW, so no opinion there.

I wonder how their sales are going...? I worry they aren't getting the news out far enough.

Well I only hear about them here - and I did get the newsletter.

The idea of the "price" debate was to hopefully expand the market - not necessarily pander to the current market. That might not happen - but that is what I would've hoped for - because with a bigger market comes lower prices (volume of sales go up) right?

Anyway - I don't know if they are marketing it - I hear about it here and in the newsletter.

CoG:EE I have. Commander games - I have no interest in I'm afraid.

[Anguille]

CoG:EE == Improved yet also buggier edition of the Forge of Freedom engine (which was itself an improved and less buggy edition of the original CoG).

What do you mean by buggier (i have CoG)?

[JasonPratt]

Judge -- exactly right, expanding the market with the sales. Thus I worry that they aren't marketing the sales far enough.

Anguille -- we had a discussion around here recently (can't remember where at the moment) about how CoG:EE has some major bugs in it which, for perfectly reasonable and understandable reasons, are probably never going to be fixed. The game still plays well enough, but the bugs are (naturally) related to its complexity beyond FoF. I own the game myself (indeed I bought both versions of CoG!) but haven't played it much, despite it being my favorite Napoleonic grand strategy game so far. (NappyTotalWar may crown that eventually -- I just recently picked it up on sale and I know a lot of people swear by it. I also know a lot of people swear at the Empire engine it's based on, so eh.... ;) )

[Arctic Blast]

And for the first time, I am seriously tempted. I've long been curious about CoG : EE.

[Grim.Reaper]

whew...I am safe this week, neither interests me this time around.

[JasonPratt]

Don't let me scare you off, AB. It could be a lot, lot worse. Think Forge of Freedom but with more diplomacy and more real economic options (and more sides of course).

The benefits lead to some wrinkles that never got ironed out, but I'm not talking something like Empires In Arms original release or WW1 original.

[Anguille]

Judge -- exactly right, expanding the market with the sales. Thus I worry that they aren't marketing the sales far enough.

Anguille -- we had a discussion around here recently (can't remember where at the moment) about how CoG:EE has some major bugs in it which, for perfectly reasonable and understandable reasons, are probably never going to be fixed. The game still plays well enough, but the bugs are (naturally) related to its complexity beyond FoF. I own the game myself (indeed I bought both versions of CoG!) but haven't played it much, despite it being my favorite Napoleonic grand strategy game so far. (NappyTotalWar may crown that eventually -- I just recently picked it up on sale and I know a lot of people swear by it. I also know a lot of people swear at the Empire engine it's based on, so eh.... ;) )

So you don't think it's worthy to upgrade from CoG to CoG EE?

[Tinkershuffle]

The winners of the week are Time of Fury and Panzer Command, what say you?

[JudgeDredd]

Got both

Time of Fury I loved the aesthetics and had a great combo of unit counters and boradgame map look - can't remember the last tiem I played it mind.

Panzer Command Ostfront is pretty good. Personally - from a look perspective - it's way behind CM series - but it plays pretty well and is brutal. IIRC it's got 40s impulses - action/reaction phases I believe.

I think both of those are worth the DD price

[Nefaro]

Panzer Command Ostfront is pretty good. Personally - from a look perspective - it's way behind CM series - but it plays pretty well and is brutal. IIRC it's got 40s impulses - action/reaction phases I believe.

PzC:O has great random campaign & battle generators along with lots of premade stuff.

The mechanics are based on an old series of squad-level tabletop games.

[JudgeDredd]

Panzer Command Ostfront is pretty good. Personally - from a look perspective - it's way behind CM series - but it plays pretty well and is brutal. IIRC it's got 40s impulses - action/reaction phases I believe.

PzC:O has great random campaign & battle generators along with lots of premade stuff.

The mechanics are based on an old series of squad-level tabletop games.

I'm sure the last time I tried the generator stuff (can't recall if it was mission or campaign) there was a problem because I was using IE7 or 8 - and the mechanic of the generators was all built around IE6 (I think).

Do you know if that's been fixed - I forgot about that issue in my post

[Nefaro]

Panzer Command Ostfront is pretty good. Personally - from a look perspective - it's way behind CM series - but it plays pretty well and is brutal. IIRC it's got 40s impulses - action/reaction phases I believe.

PzC:O has great random campaign & battle generators along with lots of premade stuff.

The mechanics are based on an old series of squad-level tabletop games.

I'm sure the last time I tried the generator stuff (can't recall if it was mission or campaign) there was a problem because I was using IE7 or 8 - and the mechanic of the generators was all built around IE6 (I think).

Do you know if that's been fixed - I forgot about that issue in my post

I don't know.  I recall that they were working on a fix quite awhile back but haven't checked lately.  I've been too burned-out on WW2 stuff that I've rarely bothered playing anything in that setting for quite some time (including PzC).  I'm sure the answer lies on the game forum .. somewhere.

[FlickJax]

just picked up time of fury and allowed my 30% discount for time of wrath :)

[Rayfer]

Both are pretty good games but....as has happened every week thus far.....nothing for me to take advantage of.  Already own both games.  I'm holding out hope that future weeks will having something to offer me.