Japan Changing Constitution?

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besilarius

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http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2013/05/13/china-and-india-aircraft-carrier-plans-advance/

Articles on the development of British aircraft carriers today, and how India is trying to enlarge their carrier force in facing the Chinese.
Now, here's a thought.  Suppose we took one of our recently decommissioned carriers, say Kitty Hawk, and sold it to the Japanese?  Wouldn't the Chinese just crap their pants?
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Martok

Quote from: Gusington on July 20, 2013, 08:54:18 AM
If we really look closely at the situation yes it's fun to taunt the Chinese but as Americans can we really ever trust a militarized Japan?
I think we can trust them to act in their best interests, which pretty much automatically means opposing the Chinese and trying to limit their influence. 




Quote from: besilarius on July 20, 2013, 10:02:33 AM
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http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2013/05/13/china-and-india-aircraft-carrier-plans-advance/

Articles on the development of British aircraft carriers today, and how India is trying to enlarge their carrier force in facing the Chinese.
Now, here's a thought.  Suppose we took one of our recently decommissioned carriers, say Kitty Hawk, and sold it to the Japanese?  Wouldn't the Chinese just crap their pants?
Heh. 

Beijing would go ballistic, and would almost certainly retaliate in ways we really wouldn't like.  It's a fun thought, however. 

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At a time of declining US military budgets, having Japan stepping up and helping fill the void is a big plus. 

I made the remark earlier about annexing Japan, but I wasn't joking.  I think a combined US/Japan would not only work, but be a very big good fit economically. 
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China has some thinking to do about how it wants to grow up.

If it truly wishes to be a strategic competitor to the US it should consider that carefully. It has India and Japan on either side. Both strong democracies. Both have no interest in kowtowing or being part of an ancient tribute system.

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Gusington

Knowing what I know about Japanese culture, history, and industry, all of which I admire probably as much as LB...I still don't trust them fully.


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undercovergeek

Quote from: Gusington on July 20, 2013, 12:00:14 PM
Knowing what I know about Japanese culture, history, and industry, all of which I admire probably as much as LB...I still don't trust them fully.

just up the coast guard sweeps every early december

Gusington



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You know Japan wins against China the day a 10 story tall Hello Kitty comes out of the ocean on the Chinese coast.
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Maybe Japan will invade us with Geisha and Anime Girls. 
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I, for one, welcome our new Geisha-supplying Overlords...
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Martok

China is poking Japan with a stick (yet again): 


Quote(Reuters) - Japan scrambled fighter jets on Wednesday after a Chinese military aircraft flew for the first time through international airspace near its southern islands out over the Pacific, in a move seen by Japan as underlining China's maritime expansion.

Ties between China and Japan have been strained by a territorial dispute over uninhabited East China Sea islets and hawkish Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe won a decisive victory in upper house elections on Sunday.

Japan's Defense Ministry said a Chinese Y-8 airborne early warning plane flew through airspace between Okinawa prefecture's main island and the smaller Miyako island in southern Japan out over the Pacific at around noon and later took the same route back over the East China Sea.

"I believe this indicates China's move toward further maritime expansion," Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera told reporters, in comments carried on public broadcaster NHK.

Chinese government spokesmen were not immediately available for comment.

The waters around the disputed islands, called the Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, and which are to the west of Okinawa's main island, are rich fishing grounds and the sea floor around them could hold big oil and gas reserves.

Tension between China and Japan escalated last September when Japan bought three of the disputed islands from a private Japanese owner.

Since then, patrol ships and aircraft from both countries have been shadowing each other in the sea and skies around the islets.

That has raised fears of an unintended collision leading to a broader clash.

Abe has pledged to take a firm stance in the territorial dispute, but said in his news conference following the upper house election win that Japan's door was open to dialogue.
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Gusington

It wasn't so long ago that Japan kicked China's ass all.over the place and literally destroyed the country. I know that China has probably the longest historical collective memory probably of any nation on Earth, so...are the Chinese just out for simple revenge?


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Windigo

Quote from: Gusington on July 20, 2013, 08:54:18 AM
If we really look closely at the situation yes it's fun to taunt the Chinese but as Americans can we really ever trust a militarized Japan?

They have got shit for a supportive culture twards any bushido type code again
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