Civ V - Favorite Starting... ?

[bayonetbrant]

it's not like that Austrian special ability was a secret...  :o

[Windigo]

it's not like that Austrian special ability was a secret...  :o

needless detail..... two, three... maybe a dozen nukes and it'll be all for naught

[BanzaiCat]

The AI was insane in Civ V and Civ V G&K; they're worse warmongerers than I. It's hard to not be tempted to take out a weak neighbor and eventually just say "ah screw it, Imma unite the world."

One thing I'm VERY pleased about with Brave New World is that the AI really seems to want to play nice and get along. I haven't had much time in these last few weeks since buying it but have played Poland and Morocco through to about mid-game; not one AI player has declared war on me yet (as opposed to three, four times in the other iterations).

In any case I'm liking the Poles a lot and Morocco as well. Like what Windigo says, one or two nukes can ruin any civ's day, and I admit my own genocidal tendencies usually surface about the time I build my first atom bomb. I can't help but to electronically cleanse a swath of the planet here and there. I guess I'm not suited for peace but I'm trying to learn through BNK.

Unless I'm neighbors with India, because screw those guys. Their civ was the first one to declare war on me in my first game of Civ V way back when. I thought, "Oh, how cute, it's Gandhi and he wants to be pals! He's so peaceful and nice and - WHATWHATWHAT?!? YOU ##$*$*!!!!"

[Gusington]

^Same thing happened to me in vanilla Civ V. In more than one game I was fought to a stalemate with...Ghandi.

[Windigo]

Its all about the science... get them nukes and make like LB's chilie, - create a firestorm

[Gusington]

^I am about to see how well that strategery works as the Byzantines against the Austrians in the Balkans, circa 1250AD.

[Windigo]

I hate the Austrian AI.... Herr Frauline is good at snatching key wonders away... Now I always caravan production to the city

[Gusington]

Yeah she's proving to be quite unpleasant. Time for a smackdown.

[bayonetbrant]

I won a Prince-level game as Austria not long after G+K came out.  Conquered Carthage because they were making land grabs in places I needed, and knocked off Rome, just 'cuz.  Married a few city-states into the family to f' with other civs and eventually got a science win.

[BanzaiCat]

I also despise Carthage. Seems they're always out-Wondering me, usually by 1-5 turns, the bastards.

[bayonetbrant]

you won't want to read this then: http://grogheads.com/?cat=51

[BanzaiCat]

Nice work, sir!

[Windigo]

So the world had its first couple of meetings.... the bastards embargoed my staunch ally Brazil AND they put the artsy fartsies in control, now my great scientist breeding program has taken a 33% hit!

In retaliation I crushed the Ottoman's City State relationships, threw a diplomat into his capital so I could share intrigue with his enemies and gave his biggest PITA neighbour 600 gold.

On the negative side, the freaking danes keep pissing off the greeks and my trade ships are taking a beating and my needy ally citystates remind me of an ex.... always wanting gold to keep them happy and putting out.

[bayonetbrant]

^^ I'm still waiting for you to tell us there's an actual problem in there somewhere

[Windigo]

^^ I'm still waiting for you to tell us there's an actual problem in there somewhere

uhhh, the ottomans up until about 200 years back had a rating at times, 2-3 hundred points greater than me? And their buddy Japan had a trainwreck for an economy.... other than trading luxuries for gold because they put most of their freaking GDP into military??? and my military at the time consisted of a bunch of whitecoats with Bison approved nerf bats?

My strategy to suceed does take a while to crank up.... I do buddy up with militaruistic city states though to get the odd unit (after the initial run and club expansion days)

[Gold for luxuries and intimidating citystates to keep your economy afloat ... have to try that in a short game]