HOI III (Their Finest Hour) AAR - Going it alone

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besilarius

I'm a little surprised that Turkey was really a pushover.  Up until this, I thought the success es were fairly believable, but this seems quite unrealistic.  I don't think the Turkish army would have rolled over like that.
Know, it is just a game mechanic, but rather a whacky one.
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undercovergeek

Quote from: bob48 on September 19, 2013, 05:04:19 PM
Best AAR you have done, IMHO, Geek. Excellent stuff. Its really getting me to the point when I want to fire it up and have a bash.

Youre very kind Bob - thanks

Quote from: besilarius on September 19, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
I'm a little surprised that Turkey was really a pushover.  Up until this, I thought the success es were fairly believable, but this seems quite unrealistic.  I don't think the Turkish army would have rolled over like that.
Know, it is just a game mechanic, but rather a whacky one.

I have a feeling all of Turkeys troops were on their Russian border - along way from where i was - once those VP cities fall and the surrender value goes up theres not much can be done

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Diocletian

When Diocletian reformed the administrative machinery of the Roman Empire, he stripped the civilian administrators of their military powers (granting them instead to distinct offices). Additionally, he further divided the various provinces into smaller units, effectively doubled the number of provinces from fifty to over a hundred. To this new organization he imposed two new bureaucratic levels between the Emperor and the provinces: the Prefectures and the Dioceses. Diocletian grouped these hundred provinces into twelve Dioceses, which were then grouped into four Prefectures. The result was that the units of government were much smaller, and thus more manageable, than they had been before Diocletian's reforms. This not only made administration of the Empire easier but also helped to minimize the risk of revolt.



The New Roman Empire in its infancy

With Italy now straddling a wide empire possessed of many languages, ethnicities and religions Mussolini decided now was the time for him to re-release Diocletian's vision of the new order of things in Italy's sphere of influence. It would, of course be very loosely based on the old Roman empire, but Mussolini promised that the New Roman Empire would be more modern, more enlightened. Although all newly acquired territories would remain under military government and marital law until security wa reestablished, eventually all territories would be divided into administrative diocese.

The borders of these dioceses would need to be updated to take into consideration the linguistic, cultural, and ethnic makeup of the current territories. However, the idea was to have small local administrative units responsible for all local governmental activities and would be conducted in the local language and according to the local customs and laws. The only limitation on local administration would be a Roman prefect assigned to each diocese by the government in Rome. He would have no official powers other than the veto of local decisions, and that veto power would only be exercised if the local decision is determined to be in conflict with the greater interests of the State and Empire or when the local decisions conflicted with a fundamental public policy of the New Roman Empire. It would be through the gradual and subtle nudging of this functionary that the various dioceses would slowly develop into a part of a greater, consistent, unified and modern state.



All peoples within the new empire would be granted equal citizenship and have freedom of movement and trade within the entire empire without tolls or tariffs. The monetary system would be unified around a common currency issued by a central bank in Rome and all financial transactions within the empire would be required to be made in that currency. Local franchises of the central bank would be considered as financial growth and the flow of money required.

Taxation would be collected locally by each of the dioceses and the vast majority of revenues collected would be spent in the local dioceses and as the local authorities determined. Only a portion of local revenues would be ceded to the central authority for internal and external security.

It was a step too far for Britain. Chamberlain mobilised his forces and noisily rattled his sabre from across the channel. For him, Mussolini's annexation of the entirety of Turkey went well beyond his understanding of "the Balkans". However, he was still far more concerned with the ominous developments in Germany, and going to war with Italy seemed too dangerous a prospect. Mussolini's army had demonstrated again and again its potency. Now that Italy was equipped with a land route into the heart of the Middle East through Turkey, Chamberlain doubted his empire's ability to protect Egypt and the Suez if it ever came to war. No, Chamberlain decided that he had no choice - he would need to look on the more positive side of things, that Turkey had been removed from the list of possible Axis nations. The United Kingdom issued a strongly worded statement saying it was "totally opposed" to the annexation of Turkey by the Kingdom of Italy.



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Martok

LOL!  Nice way of explaining the UK backing down from a fight. 

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I say, how jolly embarrassing, what!

I shall write to my MP.
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 I must have missed something - I read of your conquest of Bulgaria, but not Romania...

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Quote from: Banzai_Cat on September 21, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
I must have missed something - I read of your conquest of Bulgaria, but not Romania...

slight fluctuation in the space time continuom - normal service will be restored shortly  :o

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Turkey: now THAT'S Italian! Come to think of it, Ragu even sounds kind of Turkish. Spaghetti and Turkey balls.

Romania: now THAT'S... Schrödingerian?


Okay, so, while UGeek is rectifying the Romanians: what are his two nations on the menu after that? The Levantine nations seem solidly British and French. Bulgaria? Seems likely to be allied with too many people Not Worth Pissing Off Yet. Ditto the Swiss (though the Alpini might work better there than anyone else was able or willing to do in historical WW2.)

UPDATE: I just happened to notice UGeek ahemming about Bulgaria upthread along with Turkey, so I guess maybe them after all!

2nd nation then:

My eye is on that territory on the far Eastern Turkish border, can't quite make it out but it doesn't look connected to the French or British. Maybe then a thrust beyond that? Easy oil would seem to still be a strategic target it possible.

Alternately, I wonder what the central African nations look like right now, near Ethiopia. (Obviously North Africa is out until war with the Anglo-Franks, ditto South Africa, and West Africa is out of range but still most likely French.)

Or, perhaps the Arabian Penninsula across from Ethiopia: any areas over there the British don't give a dem about?
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^  LOL.  Never let it be said you don't have a way with words, Jason.  :) 

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Quote from: JasonPratt on September 24, 2013, 07:54:42 AM
Turkey: now THAT'S Italian! Come to think of it, Ragu even sounds kind of Turkish. Spaghetti and Turkey balls.

Romania: now THAT'S... Schrödingerian?


Okay, so, while UGeek is rectifying the Romanians: what are his two nations on the menu after that? The Levantine nations seem solidly British and French. Bulgaria? Seems likely to be allied with too many people Not Worth Pissing Off Yet. Ditto the Swiss (though the Alpini might work better there than anyone else was able or willing to do in historical WW2.)

UPDATE: I just happened to notice UGeek ahemming about Bulgaria upthread along with Turkey, so I guess maybe them after all!

2nd nation then:

My eye is on that territory on the far Eastern Turkish border, can't quite make it out but it doesn't look connected to the French or British. Maybe then a thrust beyond that? Easy oil would seem to still be a strategic target it possible.

Alternately, I wonder what the central African nations look like right now, near Ethiopia. (Obviously North Africa is out until war with the Anglo-Franks, ditto South Africa, and West Africa is out of range but still most likely French.)

Or, perhaps the Arabian Penninsula across from Ethiopia: any areas over there the British don't give a dem about?

Bulgaria already drive Fiats, drink Chianti and eat Ragu im afraid - North and East are Hungary, and Persia - not Allied yet but protected by the UK

My big decision is more westerly but i dont have a land corridor to them

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undercovergeek

lol no, im not sending transport ships that far!

Keunert

Just to inform you:

Switzerland is a tough nut to crack. We have real planes like the Me-109 and real tanks like the Hetzer. And infantry tactics IV.
and because of some overly german friendly officers the main defence is aimed against Italy and France, not Germany.
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undercovergeek

i was all good until infantry tactics IV - you can keep your hilly-ass, neutral, cuckoo clock making, toblerone producing country to yourself!

Keunert

just remember Benito, we got you before (1903)
we will get you again if you play tricks.




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