Why the Death of the Tank is Greatly Exaggerated

[bayonetbrant]

one good LAW in the treads = mobility kill.  Then just run up the back of it and drop a grenade in the hatch.  Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

[Windigo]

one good LAW in the treads = mobility kill.  Then just run up the back of it and drop a grenade in the hatch.  Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

similar to how packs of predators take down larger game .... though frequently there are more casualties than just the prey

[GDS_Starfury]

Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

I dont think they told replacement M-4 crews who was in the tank before them.

[bayonetbrant]

Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

I dont think they told replacement M-4 crews who was in the tank before them.

Usually when an M4 crew went down, the tank went with it.  If they recovered / repaired them to get them WSRO'ed back into service, they cleaned up the remnants of the previous crew in the process.  The Russians didn't take that much care in Afghanistan / Chechnya

[Windigo]

Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

I dont think they told replacement M-4 crews who was in the tank before them.

my great uncle worked in a refurbishing unit....

rifles and rucks

[Windigo]

Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

I dont think they told replacement M-4 crews who was in the tank before them.

Usually when an M4 crew went down, the tank with with it.  If they recovered / repaired them to get them WSRO'ed back into service, they cleaned up the remnants of the previous crew in the process.  The Russians didn't take that much care in Afghanistan / Chechnya

nice....      ::)

[GDS_Starfury]

Usually when an M4 crew went down, the tank with with it. 

just had to save this tidbit of grammar.  ;)

[bayonetbrant]

it's been a long, long, loooooooong, annoying day here, of cleaning up lots of other people's bullshit.

You're lucky I'm typing in English and not Illusin or Vylan or Pellinese.

[LongBlade]

Even if they get the treads working, no one is going to want to crew a tank with the guts of the previous crew all over it.

I dont think they told replacement M-4 crews who was in the tank before them.

Usually when an M4 crew went down, the tank went with it.  If they recovered / repaired them to get them WSRO'ed back into service, they cleaned up the remnants of the previous crew in the process.  The Russians didn't take that much care in Afghanistan / Chechnya

Have you read Death Traps? Reading that I get the sense that we spent more time than you might think recovering and refitting them.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XUAETO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000XUAETO&linkCode=as2&tag=grogheads-20

[GDS_Starfury]

^^^  thats what I was thinking.

pressure clean the guts out, slap a coat of paint on it and give it to a crew with 2 days training only to repeat the process 15 hours later.

[LongBlade]

^^^  thats what I was thinking.

pressure clean the guts out, slap a coat of paint on it and give it to a crew with 2 days training only to repeat the process 15 hours later.

Cooper said a lot of the time they would find a chunk of the round than penetrated the armor. They'd take it and weld it back into the hole it made, grind it down, paint it, and the new crews were never the wiser that a piece of the round that killed the last crew was being used to protect them.

I'm not saying that we recovered 100% of the tanks that brewed up. But Cooper's job was in a refit outfit. I *suspect* that's why there's something of a discrepancy when it comes to discussing "how bad is the Sherman?" We produced X many Shermans and killed Y many Panzers. What's missing from that equation is how many times we recycled the same Sherman. The guys who claim the Sherman was better than what most folks around here know it to be (I'm speculating) haven't included that recycling number in their analysis.

[bayonetbrant]

Their thread - 6 posts of pablum  http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3447254
Our thread - 25 posts, only 50% pablum

can we claim victory? ;)

[mirth]

Only 50% pablum? That's way below our average.

[GDS_Starfury]

I love it when Mirth fondles my pablum.

[mirth]

It's my gentle touch.