China establishes 'air-defence zone' over East China Sea

[BanzaiCat]

Sort of like Corey Haim as "Lucas" trying to play football with the big boys?

[mirth]

oh goody!

maybe China will send their carrier battle group to play.   ;D

It would be an easy way for them to learn damage control.

[GDS_Starfury]

anyone want to make bets on how many subs are attached to our carrier group and how many PLAN subs have a go?

[mirth]

anyone want to make bets on how many subs are attached to our carrier group and how many PLAN subs have a go?

Each CVBG gets at least one SSN as a goalkeeper...PLAN subs are currently irrelevant. A single LA class could take out the bulk of their sub force. Forget about our dedicated ASW units.

[GDS_Starfury]

I wouldnt be that cocky about it.  I also wouldnt be surprised to find some of our allies D/E subs thrown in the mix.

[mirth]

I wouldnt be that cocky about it.  I also wouldnt be surprised to find some of our allies D/E subs thrown in the mix.

I don't think it's being cocky. We are the class of the world for ASW. The Brits might be better technically, but they don't match us for assets.

[GDS_Starfury]

if shit hit the fan and I was in charge of Chinese subs I would mod a CVBG with everything and not care about losses.  the political cost of losing a carrier with our current idiot in charge would be horrific.

[mirth]

if shit hit the fan and I was in charge of Chinese subs I would mod a CVBG with everything and not care about losses.  the political cost of losing a carrier with our current idiot in charge would be horrific.

Good luck. I doubt most of their subs would make it out of port, with or without opposition from us.

[Windigo]

This smells like a Chinese party test of their own Intel gathering capabilities on the USA and Japan.  Makes me go hmmm.

[GDS_Starfury]

never underestimate your foe Mirth.

[GDS_Starfury]

having said that, lets play. 

SM-6 Achieves Initial Operational Capability

November 26, 2013 2:44 PM

WASHINGTON - The Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) tactical missile has reached initial operation capability, the Navy announced in a Nov. 26 release, with SM-6s successfully loaded onboard guided-missile destroyer USS Kidd in San Diego.

The SM-6 is designed to provide naval vessels with extended range protection against cruise missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and fixed and rotary wing aircraft.

"We're very pleased to achieve [initial operational capability] on schedule," said Capt. Mike Ladner, the major program manager of Surface Ship Weapons, whose portfolio includes SM-6. "The SM-6, with its ability to extend the battle space, truly improves shipboard air defense capability. I'm very proud of the entire Standard Missile team on this historic achievement."

SM-6 has entered full-rate production and the program has already delivered 50 missiles ahead of schedule and under budget. Follow-on test and evaluation will continue into 2014 to validate the integrated fire control capability in an operationally realistic environment.

Program Executive Office for Integrated Warfare Systems, an affiliated program executive office of the Naval Sea Systems Command, manages surface ship and submarine combat technologies and systems and coordinates Navy enterprise solutions across ship platforms.

http://www.seapowermagazine.org/stories/20131126-sm6.html

[jejo68]

I wouldnt be that cocky about it.  I also wouldnt be surprised to find some of our allies D/E subs thrown in the mix.

I don't think it's being cocky. We are the class of the world for ASW. The Brits might be better technically, but they don't match us for assets.

You do know that the Danish subs used to run circles around the US ASW during execise when we still had subs?. And I believe the swedes still did it last year on an exercise
Dont be so cocky, the US navy isnt infalable even if it is very good

[besilarius]

In these days of smaller numbers, this could not happen again.
During the Yom Kippur War in 1973, after a month we had three carrier battle groups south and west of Crete.  At that location, the only real danger to the carriers would have been the Israiles (only six years since the Liberty was attacked) or the small Soviet squadron stationed off Kithera.
The destroyers went nuts because they were told to ignore ASW and concentrate on AAW.  Well, that's like telling a fireman to ignore the smoke in the room and fix the faucet.  Every day there would be at least five good sonar contacts, which we were promptly told to not pursue.
The staff knew what was going on, but the ship's did not.  We knew there was at least one, maybe two, Charlie/Victor nuclear sub, plus a fair number of pogey bait Foxtrots.  The younger guys could get quite worked up about it all.
Finally, when the whole thing was over and the carriers turned west, the staff shared a signal from Subs/Atlantic, OutChopping submarines from the Med to the Atlantic.  Can only remember Hammerhead from the list, but there were like eighteen subs that had been operating around the three groups for months. 
Amazed there were no collisions.

[GDS_Starfury]

^^^  thats what Im thinking is going to happen.  PacRim d/e subs are about to get a great workout.

[endfire79]

some interesting scenarios coming to mind