Battlefront's Combat Mission Eastern Front Sneak Peek

[Grim.Reaper]

Looks like some details for the eastern front....haven't picked up Market Garden yet, so not sure about this one either...but we'll see.

http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=112852

[Gusington]

Tried linking the video but got an error...anyway that rumbling you hear for the first half is not a train :)

[Apocalypse 31]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

[Zulu1966]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

Jeez - there are some odd people in this world.

CM is by far and away to most realistic, historically accurate, graphically thrilling tactical game about whatever it covers in existence. You would think we were deluged by games that come even close to what CM does by the way some people talk about it. So please - all the whining naysayers - point me to all the other games that do anything at all close to what CM does. Its pathetic.

[Grim.Reaper]

I don't really have a problem with the price, I think you actually do get a lot of gaming for $35 based on the content included, plus all the user made stuff.  Many other games out there are more expensive than this game, even if they haven't changed the formula in a long time.

My biggest problem with continuing to support is the form of DRM they use......I understand the need for DRM, but can't stand DRM that ties to your hardware/software configuration.  Just too many issues come as a result, although they usually help you out.  Again, I am not a anti-DRM person or one that rants on the topic, its just this version that really has kept me from buying their latest products.

[Apocalypse 31]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

Jeez - there are some odd people in this world.

CM is by far and away to most realistic, historically accurate, graphically thrilling tactical game about whatever it covers in existence. You would think we were deluged by games that come even close to what CM does by the way some people talk about it. So please - all the whining naysayers - point me to all the other games that do anything at all close to what CM does. Its pathetic.

And that's EXACTLY why I get so frustrated over the CM series. There's not much else out there that comes even close. I just cannot get over the game performance.

Even watching this new trailer - you didn't see the game slow down a significant amount when the artillery came crashing in? Games made within the last 5 years shouldnt do that sort of thing.

[Apocalypse 31]

I don't really have a problem with the price, I think you actually do get a lot of gaming for $35 based on the content included, plus all the user made stuff.  Many other games out there are more expensive than this game, even if they haven't changed the formula in a long time.

My biggest problem with continuing to support is the form of DRM they use......I understand the need for DRM, but can't stand DRM that ties to your hardware/software configuration.  Just too many issues come as a result, although they usually help you out.  Again, I am not a anti-DRM person or one that rants on the topic, its just this version that really has kept me from buying their latest products.

$35 is good for a game, but look at the Battlefront store. Each module is $35 dollars, and there are quite a few, if you count all the CMx2 modules. We normally complain about DLC's on Steam for $5 a pop, but Battlefront has the same thing going on. Regardless, I do own 90% of the CM bundles - from Shock Force down - to include the '2.0 Enhancement Pack'

I dont understand why the DRM doesn't auto-unlicense when you uninstall the game.

I've probably lost a handful of licenses because I forgot to 'un-license' a game before un-installing it.

[undercovergeek]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

what?   ???  shush

its a TBS/RTS military sim not Call of Duty: Bagration

Ill skip it, East Front isnt for me although i see why people would be interested.

Never thought id say it but im a bet 'meh' for WWII, i am however looking forward very much to the Black Sea CMSF release

[Apocalypse 31]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

what?   ???  shush

its a TBS/RTS military sim not Call of Duty: Bagaration

Ill skip it, East Front isnt for me although i see why people would be interested.

Never thought id say it but im a bet 'meh' for WWII, i am however looking forward very much to the Black Sea CMSF release

OHHHHHHHH - Since its a Military SIM, then its ok to have poor game performance?  :o

[Rayfer]

As the owner of a 5 year old rig that can't run Arma 2, 3 or other graphically high-end games my opinion is different than others who wish they would upgrade the engine.  I watched the video via the link in the first post (which links to another link in the Battlefront forums) and thought it looked pretty darn good.

[undercovergeek]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

what?   ???  shush

its a TBS/RTS military sim not Call of Duty: Bagaration

Ill skip it, East Front isnt for me although i see why people would be interested.

Never thought id say it but im a bet 'meh' for WWII, i am however looking forward very much to the Black Sea CMSF release

OHHHHHHHH - Since its a Military SIM, then its ok to have poor game performance?  :o

i think maybe you should upgrade your box of cogs and kitkat wrappers to something that doesnt need little hamsters in it - i havent seen any platform, ive ever owned or seen other people own that hasnt been able to run CMBN/FI or GL - allowing the game to be played on your rig is your responsibility not the developers

[Apocalypse 31]

I have a great rig that runs everything beautifully - GTX 770 is a very nice card.

The CMx2 game engine is 10+ years old and is not meant for gaming or high performance systems.

[Nefaro]

So please - all the whining naysayers - point me to all the other games that do anything at all close to what CM does. Its pathetic.

Achtung Panzer/Graviteam Tactics.

Boom.  Game, set, match.

CM isn't the only game in town for this sort of thing, anymore.  So no need for the melodramatics in it's defense.

[Zulu1966]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

Jeez - there are some odd people in this world.

CM is by far and away to most realistic, historically accurate, graphically thrilling tactical game about whatever it covers in existence. You would think we were deluged by games that come even close to what CM does by the way some people talk about it. So please - all the whining naysayers - point me to all the other games that do anything at all close to what CM does. Its pathetic.

And that's EXACTLY why I get so frustrated over the CM series. There's not much else out there that comes even close. I just cannot get over the game performance.

Even watching this new trailer - you didn't see the game slow down a significant amount when the artillery came crashing in? Games made within the last 5 years shouldnt do that sort of thing.

Except on the largest maps it can do - and they have to literally have a couple of battalions on them as well and be covered in trees - I have NEVER had any performance issues with the CM games. And with the recent patch - not only do the draw distances for most everything now extend to the edge of the map - even those large heavily populated maps now run fine.

If the game runs slow on your machine - take it from me its your rig and not the game. And no - I didnt see any slow down - I think thats a case of you seeing what you want to see.

[Grim.Reaper]

Sadly, this looks like the same old engine that we've seen for 10+ years  :(



<rant>

For $35 a pop, you'd think after all these years that they could show a little love toward their out-dated and un-optimized game engine. How about bringing it into 21st century standards? Even on high end systems the game runs terribly, with poor and eyesore effects. How about a particle system update? Physics update? Ragdoll? Anything!? FFS - JUST CONTRACT IT OUT TO SOMEONE - YOU CAN EVEN SELL 'THE ENHANCED ENGINE' FOR 50$ AND PEOPLE (LIKE ME) WILL BUY IT!!

</rant>

Sorry about that. Just some general frustration with this company and series. I do enjoy the authentic nature of the game, and the fact that the weapons/vehicles in game play much like their true-to-life counterparts. CM is truly a remarkable game, but it has some fatal flaws that I just cannot get over.

Jeez - there are some odd people in this world.

CM is by far and away to most realistic, historically accurate, graphically thrilling tactical game about whatever it covers in existence. You would think we were deluged by games that come even close to what CM does by the way some people talk about it. So please - all the whining naysayers - point me to all the other games that do anything at all close to what CM does. Its pathetic.

And that's EXACTLY why I get so frustrated over the CM series. There's not much else out there that comes even close. I just cannot get over the game performance.

Even watching this new trailer - you didn't see the game slow down a significant amount when the artillery came crashing in? Games made within the last 5 years shouldnt do that sort of thing.

Not sure I understand the reasoning...it is OK if you don't like the game for its own merits, but not sure why your frustrated at Battlefront because no other developer has provided a better experience...not their fault.  Although others would probably say APOS is a worthy game to play, minus its lack of good UI.

At the end of the day, your certainly entitled to your opinion and wouldn't look to change that, but I think each module that comes out is more than your typical DLC you mentioned.  If they ever get rid of their form of DRM, these would always be day one purchases for me.