Pdox cancels East vs. West

[tgb]

For those who might want to give it a shot (I might - I just downloaded the manual from the developers website), Us and Them is now on Steam for $8.49

[Jarhead0331]

I didn't care for this game...it's been available for quite some time.

[Blucher]

I hear Us and Them is not very good. It has UI issues apparently and is heavy on the micromanagement. You can try a demo on the Icehole games website. Also I hear Che Geverra is overpowered.  I think if you really want a cold war fix You'd be better off buying the Twilight Struggle boardgame or playing it on Vassal.

[tgb]

The demo left me underwhelmed.  The resolution is fixed at 1024x768 with no way to change it from what I can see, but odder still is that the game starts in 1965 - years past some significant cold war events.

[Nefaro]

I tried playing Us & Them again, a couple days ago. 

The interface is indeed a pain because the resolution is locked at 1024x768, however the little map symbols you must click to select are still quite tiny.  I also had some of the text running off the display at the top. 

I could get past all that if the gameplay was interesting, but it's just a matter of sending your spies to scout out countries, giving assassinate orders to eliminate enemy agents that are being troublesome, and just issuing an overall order for your other agents to perform various types of sabotage in their current location if the success chance is above a specified threshold.

The game mechanics aren't all that interesting.  I may have to finally get Twilight Struggle sometime since the other possible option, Supreme Ruler: Cold War probably still has it's warts.  :'(

[tgb]

I may have to finally get Twilight Struggle sometime since the other possible option, Supreme Ruler: Cold War probably still has it's warts.  :'(

I hope you aren't planning to get the PC version.  You may be disappointed.

[Nefaro]

I may have to finally get Twilight Struggle sometime since the other possible option, Supreme Ruler: Cold War probably still has it's warts.  :'(

I hope you aren't planning to get the PC version.  You may be disappointed.

Nope.  Especially since it will never exist.  :P

[Grim.Reaper]

Very strange twist....seems like the unfinished code was leaked and published to various places for download where people can play it based on how it stands now....

I am not interested in doing it myself...but thought was a weird twist to this saga....

[fabius]

Very strange twist....seems like the unfinished code was leaked and published to various places for download where people can play it based on how it stands now....

I am not interested in doing it myself...but thought was a weird twist to this saga....

I so wanted that game. Anybody have link to safe download?

[MetalDog]

Very strange twist....seems like the unfinished code was leaked and published to various places for download where people can play it based on how it stands now....

I am not interested in doing it myself...but thought was a weird twist to this saga....

I so wanted that game. Anybody have link to safe download?

As it's not an official release, any link to illegal downloads, safe or not, will not be cool.

[mikeck]

Can you imagine playing a game that was too unfinished and buggy for paradox to deal with?(crusader kings excepted of course)

[Redwolf]

All threads on that forum locked? Disgusting.

I'll never use vendor forums ever again.

[tgb]

Can you imagine playing a game that was too unfinished and buggy for paradox to deal with?(crusader kings excepted of course)

Sword of the Stars 2

[Nefaro]

Can you imagine playing a game that was too unfinished and buggy for paradox to deal with?(crusader kings excepted of course)

Sword of the Stars 2

Zang!

I still intend to try it out in it's current form sometime.  But so many games.. even space 4Xes left to play!

[eyebiter]

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