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Title: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on May 24, 2012, 06:41:05 AM
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/99698-hmcs-ojibwa-leaves-this-week-to-become-floating-museum
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 06:55:18 AM
From a brief google-chop it sounds as if those Oberon class boats were a much better investment than the Victorias you guys have now. Being that the Oberons were the stealthiest D-E boats of their time you might want to consider ordering up a few more and museumize the Victorias instead.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2012, 07:20:43 AM
Nice that they're going to preserve her.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on May 24, 2012, 09:37:23 AM
We should lease it to a drug cartel and use the lease $$$ to buy new and effective subs.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2012, 09:49:22 AM
With the recent Coast Guard cutbacks leaving you vulnerable to a Godzilla attack, it will take a plucky band of retired RCN sailors bringing the last Oberon out of mothballs to save Canada!
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
Will Charlize Theron be in the film?
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on May 24, 2012, 10:49:12 AM
Another money-making suggestion!!  :)
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: LongBlade on May 24, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
Will Charlize Theron be in the film?

There must be a sex scene in the torpedo room.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on May 24, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
Will Charlize Theron be in the film?

There must be a sex scene in the torpedo room.

When The Moment comes the camera will cut away to a torpedo launch.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: LongBlade on May 24, 2012, 11:34:43 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on May 24, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 10:41:56 AM
Will Charlize Theron be in the film?

There must be a sex scene in the torpedo room.

When The Moment comes the camera will cut away to a torpedo launch.

That's fine but I want several montages of torpedoes being loaded in their tubes first.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
BTW, I claim all the intellectual property rights related to the upcoming Charlize Theron/Oberon Sub vs Godzilla movie. The rest of you can share a producer credit.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 24, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
BTW, I claim all the intellectual property rights related to the upcoming Charlize Theron/Oberon Sub vs Godzilla movie. The rest of you can share a producer credit.

Does that mean we have access to the Craft Service table as well? I expect only the best- Champagne Mimosas, Smoked Salmon, fine pates, little minibagel pizzas, etc.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2012, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 24, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 24, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
BTW, I claim all the intellectual property rights related to the upcoming Charlize Theron/Oberon Sub vs Godzilla movie. The rest of you can share a producer credit.

Does that mean we have access to the Craft Service table as well? I expect only the best- Champagne Mimosas, Smoked Salmon, fine pates, little minibagel pizzas, etc.

Have your people talk to my people. I'm sure we can work something out.

The merchandising rights are all mine.

Working title for this project - Das Boob
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on May 24, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
Speaking of movies, it's your turn in the Name That Movie thread, mofo.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2012, 03:03:18 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on May 24, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
Speaking of movies, it's your turn in the Name That Movie thread, mofo.

Alright you pushy bastard.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: besilarius on May 24, 2012, 06:01:02 PM
It is sad, but so typical of the RCN.
At the start of the Battle of the Atlantic, the ASW assets were miniscule.  Within like two years, their forces were the bulk of escorts fighting the Uboats.  An amazing growth, and absolutely professional.
My dad was on a US destroyer before 43, and he had a lot of good things to say about them.
My one experience with the Royal Canadian Navy was at Port Everglades in Florida.
The Iroquios was coming in to dock.  The layout of the docks was in the form of a T.  You sailed in the long tail, and turned right or left to get into the secure docks.
Well, Iroquios came in at a pretty good clip, at least fifteen knots, maybe more, and made the turn.  Now at that point, they only had about a couple of hundred yards before the end of the piers.  It was solid concrete.
After turning, a normal ship would immediately start to slow down, and carefully - slowly ease into the slip.
I have a vivid memory of Boatswain Mate Charley Brown pointing up at the bow of Iroquios and saying something calm like, "Those f***ing a******s are going to ram the f****g pier!  Get back!!!" (I never knew he could yell in a falsetto like Frankie Valli.)
As the linehandlers ran for their lives,  the Iroquios' captain was laughing up his sleeve. 
This class had revolutionary variable pitch propellors.  With just a twist of a knob, they could go from full ahead to full astern, by changing the bite of the propellors.
Normally a ship of that size would take maybe five hundred yards to come to a full stop, as the propellors would be disconnected from the forward drive, and then carefully engaged into reverse, before the turns could effectively bite into the water.
Iroquios did it in no time, and maybe a quarter of the distance.
(Of course, if the system malfunctioned, they would have rammed the concrete pier, smashed in the bow, destroyed the sonar dome, not to mention the captain's career.  But hey, it was a great joke on those yanks, eh?)
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on May 24, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
Thanks for sharing, Dude! Neat story....  Some of those little stories are the best!
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: LongBlade on May 25, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: besilarius on May 24, 2012, 06:01:02 PM
It is sad, but so typical of the RCN.
At the start of the Battle of the Atlantic, the ASW assets were miniscule.  Within like two years, their forces were the bulk of escorts fighting the Uboats.  An amazing growth, and absolutely professional.
My dad was on a US destroyer before 43, and he had a lot of good things to say about them.
My one experience with the Royal Canadian Navy was at Port Everglades in Florida.
The Iroquios was coming in to dock.  The layout of the docks was in the form of a T.  You sailed in the long tail, and turned right or left to get into the secure docks.
Well, Iroquios came in at a pretty good clip, at least fifteen knots, maybe more, and made the turn.  Now at that point, they only had about a couple of hundred yards before the end of the piers.  It was solid concrete.
After turning, a normal ship would immediately start to slow down, and carefully - slowly ease into the slip.
I have a vivid memory of Boatswain Mate Charley Brown pointing up at the bow of Iroquios and saying something calm like, "Those f***ing a******s are going to ram the f****g pier!  Get back!!!" (I never knew he could yell in a falsetto like Frankie Valli.)
As the linehandlers ran for their lives,  the Iroquios' captain was laughing up his sleeve. 
This class had revolutionary variable pitch propellors.  With just a twist of a knob, they could go from full ahead to full astern, by changing the bite of the propellors.
Normally a ship of that size would take maybe five hundred yards to come to a full stop, as the propellors would be disconnected from the forward drive, and then carefully engaged into reverse, before the turns could effectively bite into the water.
Iroquios did it in no time, and maybe a quarter of the distance.
(Of course, if the system malfunctioned, they would have rammed the concrete pier, smashed in the bow, destroyed the sonar dome, not to mention the captain's career.  But hey, it was a great joke on those yanks, eh?)

I'm glad it worked out. I hate reading stories about navy commanders that made one mistake and it was game over.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: OJsDad on May 25, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
Will Kelsey Grammer be the skipper?
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on May 25, 2012, 01:54:41 PM
LOL.  Why not??!!

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Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on May 25, 2012, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on May 25, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
Will Kelsey Grammer be the skipper?

Good call. We'll also be adding Lauren Holly to the cast list

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Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on May 25, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
Aye, aye cabin (as Stimpy would say).

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Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on June 06, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
The Ojibwa is on it's way to it's new home -

http://www.heavyliftpfi.com/content/NewsItem.aspx?id=4311
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on June 06, 2012, 02:18:25 PM
Thanks for the update, Mirth!
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on June 06, 2012, 08:58:51 PM
Turns out there is a great site dedicated to the Ojibwa restoration project, including details on the move -

http://projectojibwa.ca/

I wish I had known it sooner, but it would have been possible to track the barge up the Saint Lawrence using this site -

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/

The site above is damn cool. It shows you the location, course and a bunch of other info for commercial shipping all over the world. It's pretty close to real time too.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on November 28, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
HMCS Objiwa has arrived at her new home in Ontario

http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/distribution-and-transportation/news/submarine-arrives-at-military-museum-photo-gallery-85791 (http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/distribution-and-transportation/news/submarine-arrives-at-military-museum-photo-gallery-85791)
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on November 28, 2012, 03:32:12 PM
Thanks for the update, Mirth!
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on November 29, 2012, 11:34:44 AM
I used to look at them all, tied-up in a surplus pen in the CFB Halifax Dockyard Annex in Halifax, whenever I was in the area.  Seemed like such as waste.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on November 29, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
I surprised to learn how many of the Oberon's have been preserved. From Wikipedia:

QuoteThe Oberon class was a 27-boat class of British-built diesel-electric submarines based on the successful British Porpoise-class submarine.

As of 2006, at least fourteen Oberons are confirmed to have survived in some form: Seven as museum boats or tourist attractions, two preserved in partial form as monuments, while five are to be converted into museum boats, or are otherwise awaiting disposal.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on November 29, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
We might as well refurbish them all and put them back to sea  ;)
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: mirth on November 29, 2012, 07:12:45 PM
^Nah, that might actually be cost-effective.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: Centurion40 on November 30, 2012, 01:07:55 PM
I was thinking that selling them to a drug cartel would be a better money maker.
Title: Re: Last Oberon
Post by: MIGMaster on November 30, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
You always were the "brains" of the operation. Townsend better be careful!