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Title: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 17, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
It's amazing what a manual can do for a game. I'm not just flying aimlessly now!

However - is there a more useful annual or guide about? I don't understand what the benefits are of hiring a crew member - for example an Engineer
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 17, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Nevermind - found this

http://steamcommunity.com/app/2870/discussions/0/648812917599214599/
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: PanzersEast on May 20, 2014, 12:39:42 PM
2.0 has been offically released... looks like some good stuff and a step in the right direction.  Here is someone who previewed the release....




PE
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 20, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9967.15 (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9967.15)

2.0 discussion begins at Reply #18.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: PanzersEast on May 20, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 20, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9967.15 (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9967.15)

2.0 discussion begins at Reply #18.

I should have dug back further in the pages.....  :D  but I thought 2 pages back was enough  :crazy2:


PE
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Rayfer on May 20, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
Tried X3: Terran Conflict a few times but could never wrap my head around it enough to enjoy it.  Watching this 2.0 video makes me want to consider this new release. Or would I be wasting my time and money?  Hmmmm...?
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 20, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
Well maybe I'll watch some of this guy's lets play vids - see if I can't try and get enthralled  ???
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 20, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
So I see on sale for $24 on steam..wonder if even worth that
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 20, 2014, 05:36:51 PM
I think quite a few people would say yes.

I think I'd be tempted to say so too actually.

I'm just not "feeling" it just now. I did spend quite a bit of time on it at the weekend.

As an example of my unhappy flying - in X-3 Terran Conflict and Albion Prelude - granted I didn't play them a great deal - but when I did - I was like "WOW!". The game was stunning. I'm just not getting that with this. So not only am I a bit lost (as with TC and AP) but I'm a bit meh with it's look.

I essentially just fly about landing, looting, attacking something for no reason and generally really not doing anything useful. Like I mentioned, I was allowed to take a mission even though it was something that I couldn't perform. I would've preferred the game to tell me I couldn't perform that - and tell me what I had to do in order to be able to perform it - than let me go on my merry way and wondering why the hell I can't find the Ore.

Hopefully someone will pipe in with something more positive.

I'm going to watch some of that guy's videos...see if they can't change my mind.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 21, 2014, 09:10:36 AM
I'll have to see what this is like in v2.0

So I take everything back and will get back :-)
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2014, 01:16:25 AM
Well - there are definitely more positive things to say about the game now.

I restarted and took the Trader option. From what I gather I've got two big old ships. No idea what to do with them yet - but they're following me around.

Combat seems better and not so easy - though I am playing on Easy I think.

Graphics look better also and there seems to be a fair bit more variation.

I think the mouse is screwed a bit (damn memory) because I'm sure I used to be able to use the mouse to click on the map buttons etc...now I can't seem to. I think I was able to but it's possible me trying to take a screen shot and being shown my screen capture program and alt-tabbing back in may have done that - I'm not sure. Just be aware - it's fickle.

I haven't tried joystick even though they have apparently improved support because I have got used to using the mouse.

So far - much more depth imo and it seems to be a better game. I was transporting a client through various systems and there was much more enemy activity than I had seen before.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 22, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
Does 2.0 improve performance at all? I had to give up Xrebirth 1.0 because combat slowed the game to molasses, and I was chasing my GPU rather than bad guys.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2014, 11:49:33 AM
I didn't have an issue with performance in general. It still suffers from loading textures though...so when you dock and walk off the ship, the textures load piecemeal and characters shapes appear piecemeal. But it was like that before. I haven't noticed any slow down and I haven't noticed any speed up because it wasn't slow for me before...sorry
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 22, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
^Thanks. I'll prolly wait for some hardware upgrades before I try 2.0.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 24, 2014, 07:39:43 PM
Nice 2.0 trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5cLpwbhTaFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5cLpwbhTaFU)
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Nefaro on May 24, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 22, 2014, 11:49:33 AM
I didn't have an issue with performance in general. It still suffers from loading textures though...so when you dock and walk off the ship, the textures load piecemeal and characters shapes appear piecemeal. But it was like that before. I haven't noticed any slow down and I haven't noticed any speed up because it wasn't slow for me before...sorry

I'm still holding out hope that they implement an option to avoid walking around on stations in first-person mode completely, in some future patch.  What a useless waste of resources that was.

Let me know if they ever do.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: mikeck on May 24, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
The last patch allows you to do just that. Talk to people without docking at the station. If you repairs or to add something onto your ships (like new guns), you have to dock
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Nefaro on May 24, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
Quote from: mikeck on May 24, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
The last patch allows you to do just that. Talk to people without docking at the station. If you repairs or to add something onto your ships (like new guns), you have to dock

Yes, I read that.  I would like to skip all of it, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on May 28, 2014, 04:12:44 AM
After six months I think its a good sign and pretty impressive what the devs have done to Rebirth. Eventhough they kept telling us that Rebirth is X4, it does seem like they are willing to glide a bit more towards the traditional X gameplay afterall.

Once fleet command and control gets a further overhaul (assuming that is on the shortlist) I think we will be headed in the right direction quite a bit.

I am not sure if I want to spend a lot of free time with 2.0 already or wait and see until the game has matured a bit more, though.
Lots of other games to play and with Distant Worlds Universe being released I have a good 'empire building' fix. :)
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: RooksBailey on May 10, 2015, 01:58:49 AM
Sorry to necro this, but I didn't see the point of starting a new thread.

So, while I eagerly await Elite: Dangerous 1.3, I was checking out some other space games to keep me distracted.  I happened across the X:Rebirth site and saw that that game is now at version 3.5.  Anybody have any opinions on its current state?  Is the train wreck cleaned up yet?  I have to admit this Let's Play makes it seem more palatable now:



Seeing how you can get a copy for $13 on Amazon, is it worth the price?  I would never give Egosoft full price after what they pulled, but I think I could swallow that price. 
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 10, 2015, 08:54:39 AM
Yeah...that's a good let's play. Makes me want to jump back in and give it a shot.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Nefaro on May 10, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
I've read about people enjoying it much more after all the updates.  I'm sure it still doesn't have the depth of the previous X3 series, but maybe it's in decent shape. 

Despite having all three, I've not really played X-Rebirth, Elite: Dangerous, or Starpoint Gemini 2.  Thought I was in a space mercenary mood when I got them but that hasn't been the case yet. 

I've heard good stuff about Starpoint Gemini 2, but when I checked it out in early access, the environment felt rather dead to me.  Maybe that was just the noob zone?  I thought the first SpG had a lot of potential, especially since it's combat was inspired by Starfleet Command 2/3 but they changed that in the sequel.  X-Rebirth did feel like you were flying around in active populated areas IMO, so hopefully some of the other complaints have been addressed since then.  I really need to give each of these some time, once I'm in the mood for some Space Truckin'.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: mikeck on May 10, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
I can't get it to play nice with my Sidewinder stick. Goes nuts. I've tried everything. its in good condition now but I have to shelve it until I get a new controller
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: RooksBailey on May 10, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
Thanks for the feedback, guys!

I was perusing the official forums and reading some threads on the state of the game.  The consensus seems to be that the current state is very playable, and even enjoyable, but some more work needs to be done, particularly on AI (station managers in particular) and end game gameplay (once you build a station or two, most players seem to think that there isn't much left to do at that point).  In general, XR players feel another DLC or expansion is required for XR to be as good as it can be. 

I am disappointed to hear that the upgrade path for your one and only ship is still very limited.  That, more than anything, is what is now keeping me from getting the game.  I don't mind being limited to one ship, but you better give me a lot to do with that one ship when it comes to expanding its capabilities and looks.  I recall Egosoft initially saying that the Skunk was fully upgradeable, but as with a lot about XR, that never was the case.  If they ever release DLC that addresses this, then I might give the game a try. 

BTW: interesting tidbit: a few weeks ago one of the Egosoft devs let it be known that they are working on improving the XR engine for another game in the series.  To be honest, I'd thought EG would be out of business by now.   >:D


Quote from: Nefaro on May 10, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
I've read about people enjoying it much more after all the updates.  I'm sure it still doesn't have the depth of the previous X3 series, but maybe it's in decent shape. 


I've heard good stuff about Starpoint Gemini 2, but when I checked it out in early access, the environment felt rather dead to me.  Maybe that was just the noob zone?  I thought the first SpG had a lot of potential, especially since it's combat was inspired by Starfleet Command 2/3 but they changed that in the sequel.

I have Starpoint Gemini 2 and the DLC but have only put six hours into it so far. What I have experienced I really liked.  Really, but for Elite Dangerous releasing at almost the same time, I probably would have played SG2 much more.  The only thing I feel SG2 is lacking is more of a strategy element where you can control space and build stations (as in X3).  The devs are going to put that into an expansion, but that isn't expected to arrive until "Winter 2015."  Good news, though: another bit of DLC is expected "Summer 2015" and will be priced the same as the previous DLC at $5!  Looking forward to it.

I think I will boot up SG2 while I await ED 1.3. 
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on February 27, 2016, 01:04:26 AM
Patch 4.0 is out along with another DLC pack called Home of Light.

You still can't fly other ships, but the empire building and management aspects of the game have vast improved and Expanded upon .
Many old players who are fan of X3 but disliked Rebirth are poking their heads back in on the forums and actually seem pleased with where the game now stands .

Perhaps a great time to revisit Rebirth with a fresh second look.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JudgeDredd on February 27, 2016, 04:14:08 AM
^ Colour me interested - I'll have a look as one of those "X-Reunion was great - what's this shite?" people  O0
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on February 27, 2016, 09:25:17 AM
I've played around with it for an hour or so and the game has come a long way in terms of UI streamlining and controller support.
I was able to setup and configure my HOTAS and pedals in a same manner of control scheme as I use in Elite in a few seconds and the UI in general seems vastly improved.

Character models are still quite bad, but the ships, stations and world is absolutely gorgeous still.

Nothing to report on actual gameplay yet, but this return is a friendly one so far at least, regarding controls and UI. That used to be a big frustrating experience in this game, so if the gameplay has been expanded on just as nicely I think I might have found me a winner here.
Will report more later.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: solops on February 27, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
Got it for $10. We'll see...
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Staggerwing on February 27, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
Intrigued, I went to the Steam page to check out the sale. Guess what I found?


QuoteX Rebirth is already in your Steam library

D'oh!
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: solops on February 27, 2016, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 27, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
Intrigued, I went to the Steam page to check out the sale. Guess what I found?

QuoteX Rebirth is already in your Steam library

D'oh!

<Snicker> I bet it happens to Jarhead all the time (Mr. 600+ Steam games...)
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 27, 2016, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: solops on February 27, 2016, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 27, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
Intrigued, I went to the Steam page to check out the sale. Guess what I found?

QuoteX Rebirth is already in your Steam library

D'oh!

<Snicker> I bet it happens to Jarhead all the time (Mr. 600+ Steam games...)

Nah. I usually err on the side of having it already.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JasonPratt on February 27, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
Was a bit surprised I didn't have Rebirth already.

Managed to hold off buying it. I still have, Lord, Evochron and the X3 games to mess with at least.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Shelldrake on February 28, 2016, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 27, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
Was a bit surprised I didn't have Rebirth already.

Managed to hold off buying it. I still have, Lord, Evochron and the X3 games to mess with at least.

Same here. There is also a new version of Evochron just released that is tempting me.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: PanzersEast on February 28, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
I am tempted to jump back in... IF they have extended the markets and purchasing/controlling powers you have for building your empire.  I found plenty of mods to spice the game up, but in the end I lost interest.  Maybe there is enough there in the patches and the DLC to get back into it as I did enjoy it, however eventually I just fired the meh guns.....


PE 
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: JasonPratt on February 28, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
The new Evochron is REALLY nice for such a low-rent game. I have played some of it, recently.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: PanzersEast on March 02, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Anyone jumped back in?  Just wondering because I have yet to pick up any of the DLC and have waited, and waited for them to patch and get X-Rebirth back up to speed.


PE
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on March 03, 2016, 01:18:19 AM
Havent had time for a proper sitdown yet.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Geezer on October 27, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Sorry for the thread necro but X Rebirth Complete is on the Steam sale until Nov. 1st for $12.49.  I already have X3: Terran Conflict and see that X3: Albion Prelude is on sale for $6.99.  Anyone who has played both have any thoughts on which way I should go?  I don't have the time to play both.  Thanks.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 27, 2017, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: Geezer on October 27, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Sorry for the thread necro but X Rebirth Complete is on the Steam sale until Nov. 1st for $12.49.  I already have X3: Terran Conflict and see that X3: Albion Prelude is on sale for $6.99.  Anyone who has played both have any thoughts on which way I should go?  I don't have the time to play both.  Thanks.

X3 is a totally different beast from Rebirth.  When Rebirth came out, it was in a pretty poor state, and so different from what people were expecting, it got hammered by fans and the press alike. However, since release, the game has been patched, updated, added to and expanded in a lot of ways that have addressed many of the loudest complaints. However, its still not X4, and is really a very different game. Personally, I would give Rebirth a shot now because X4 is in development and it looks like it will be the game that everyone was hoping Rebirth would have been. So, its hard to justify getting Albion Prelude now if X4 is coming down the pipeline. My vote would be to give Rebirth a shot, since it has really improved and is probably worth the $12.49. Heck, I just picked up the VR version for $25. 
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on October 27, 2017, 01:29:28 PM
Rebirth is a fun little game in the X universe, but its definately not a traditional X game. No big empire to create and other ships to fly. Just upgrading the Junkrat or whatever its called.

While the gameworld feels more alive in Rebirth (until your empire is large enough in X3), I feel X3 is the more rewarding game. Its slower paced, but much more options.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Geezer on October 27, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: mikeck on October 27, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
Definitely worth the price. I don't mind not being able to pilot other ships and I actually love the concept of ordering a ship to specifications, watching it be built is a ship yard, commanding it to load goods and actually watching the transport droids go back and forth loading material. Things like that are what made it unique. It's not the empire builder X3 was but with mods, you can do a lot. Frankly, it has the best looking damage graphics when you are taking out a huge ship of any games I have seen.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Toonces on October 27, 2017, 07:05:14 PM
^ Following this thread with interst.   :timeout:
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on October 27, 2017, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: mikeck on October 27, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
Definitely worth the price. I don't mind not being able to pilot other ships and I actually love the concept of ordering a ship to specifications, watching it be built is a ship yard, commanding it to load goods and actually watching the transport droids go back and forth loading material. Things like that are what made it unique. It's not the empire builder X3 was but with mods, you can do a lot. Frankly, it has the best looking damage graphics when you are taking out a huge ship of any games I have seen.

I agree! The amount of little details is amazing and really makes the game world feel plausible and alive.
Has the tedious scanning of objects mechanic been changed at all? That was super annoying.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: mikeck on October 27, 2017, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 27, 2017, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: mikeck on October 27, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
Definitely worth the price. I don't mind not being able to pilot other ships and I actually love the concept of ordering a ship to specifications, watching it be built is a ship yard, commanding it to load goods and actually watching the transport droids go back and forth loading material. Things like that are what made it unique. It's not the empire builder X3 was but with mods, you can do a lot. Frankly, it has the best looking damage graphics when you are taking out a huge ship of any games I have seen.

I agree! The amount of little details is amazing and really makes the game world feel plausible and alive.
Has the tedious scanning of objects mechanic been changed at all? That was super annoying.

Dunno. you still fly around the station unlocking trade deals but I think there is a mod that increases
The range that you can detect it so you dont have to get so close. I think anyway
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Millipede on October 27, 2017, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 27, 2017, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: Geezer on October 27, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Sorry for the thread necro but X Rebirth Complete is on the Steam sale until Nov. 1st for $12.49.  I already have X3: Terran Conflict and see that X3: Albion Prelude is on sale for $6.99.  Anyone who has played both have any thoughts on which way I should go?  I don't have the time to play both.  Thanks.

X3 is a totally different beast from Rebirth.  When Rebirth came out, it was in a pretty poor state, and so different from what people were expecting, it got hammered by fans and the press alike. However, since release, the game has been patched, updated, added to and expanded in a lot of ways that have addressed many of the loudest complaints. However, its still not X4, and is really a very different game. Personally, I would give Rebirth a shot now because X4 is in development and it looks like it will be the game that everyone was hoping Rebirth would have been. So, its hard to justify getting Albion Prelude now if X4 is coming down the pipeline. My vote would be to give Rebirth a shot, since it has really improved and is probably worth the $12.49. Heck, I just picked up the VR version for $25.

Jarhead, how is the VR version? I'm pretty sure you have the Vive but you wouldn't happen to know if the Oculus Touch is supported would you?
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Yskonyn on October 28, 2017, 05:12:22 AM
I do and it is!
Havent got it though. But would be interested to find out how it plays.
Title: Re: X-Rebirth
Post by: Geezer on October 28, 2017, 07:25:29 AM
I see X Rebirth has a demo so I'll fiddle with that before the sale ends.