Anyone play around with airsoft? When I was younger and fitter I used to play a lot of paintball and always had a blast. Now with airsoft technology licensed by the actual firearms manufacturers, they've got some really great choices. I just picked up my first two. A G&P M4 and a KWA USP. Looking forward to some action at the local indoor field.
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In case you ddon't know what airsoft is, these are both bb guns. The M4 operates on battery and the USP is a gas blowback system.
a part of my soul just died for you.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 29, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
a part of my soul just died for you.
Why? I'm not going to be running around all kitted up like a douche. But a few of my friends are having fun with it and it gives me a chance to get off my ass.
Sounds fun to me.
I'm not knocking it but I am sad for you.
there isn't much in the way of belt fed airsoft. :(
I think you have one of these bad puppies and you could do some serious damage
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Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 29, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
I'm not knocking it but I am sad for you.
there isn't much in the way of belt fed airsoft. :(
You're kidding, right?
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So, don't cry for me Argentina.
that 42 looks fun!
I know you said those are bb guns, but are they paint bb's that you shoot at people, or do you shoot only at targets with the metal bb's?
They are plastic bbs and you should people. I haven't played a match yet, but seems that hits are in the honor system. There are refs, but I can see it being tough to call. Hopefully, they sting enough to make you want to call out when hit.
I've got a buddy here who's really into it (also a lawyer) and he's dumped quite a bit of cash into his various airsoft firearms and kit. I went once and it was OK (but I'm far too out of shape to be much of anything other than an ambush lump) but the 90 minute drive each way eats up too much time. I just end up going to the range instead as it's only 15 minutes away.
For $700 you can get one of these Airsoft bad boys.
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That sounds like fun.
for $700 I can buy a whole range of real pistols.
Yeah, but you can't legally shoot at people with those for fun.
depending on the lawyer you have you can in Florida. :2funny:
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 30, 2014, 05:13:22 AM
for $700 I can buy a whole range of real pistols.
This was my logic for a really long time too. However, I buy them and then they sit in a safe. Great, now what? I have about 20 pistols, how many more do I need to get? This is a new hobby that hopefully will be social and fun. Figured I'd give it a shot.
Airsoft is kind of dangerous... you tend to unlearn the difference between cover and concealment ;)
there are no RPGs and nades , are they ?
would not be in surprise if some Japs made a throwing or spring driven devise that sprinkles a room with colorful BB using compressed air inside from a CO2 capsule
Quote from: MikeGER on June 30, 2014, 06:59:58 AM
Airsoft is kind of dangerous... you tend to unlearn the difference between cover and concealment ;)
there are no RPGs and nades , are they ?
would not be in surprise if some Japs made a throwing or spring driven devise that sprinkles a room with colorful BB using compressed air inside from a CO2 capsule
Don't worry...I will NEVER confuse the difference between cover and concealment.
Yes...they do make various grenades for airsoft, but I'm not sue how effective they are. Most of the hand grenades seem to be noise makers with no projectile element. There are 40mm grenades that seem to be launchable though.
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I've been giving this a closer look now. There seem to be a couple of fairly large groups in my area.
I don't have any airsoft guns but have played using someones extra gun but each time I've played its just devolved into a fight about who got hit and who didn't, with paint ball its fairly easy to settle those arguments, airsoft not so much especially if your clothes are thick enough it doesn't' leave welts. This is my big hang up with getting my own airsoft gear.
The TerrorWerks guys used to run a LARP zombie/space event at Origins every year using Airsoft guns.
Quote from: TheCommandTent on June 30, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
I don't have any airsoft guns but have played using someones extra gun but each time I've played its just devolved into a fight about who got hit and who didn't, with paint ball its fairly easy to settle those arguments, airsoft not so much especially if your clothes are thick enough it doesn't' leave welts. This is my big hang up with getting my own airsoft gear.
Yeah, I noticed a bit of that the few times I went. A few guys refused to acknowledge that they'd been hit and were likely to come to blows over it so they were tossed. Another guy broke the minimum distance rule and emptied his pistol into someone's back from a foot away and he was tossed. Someone bitched about a sniper rifle being too powerful and having a greater muzzle velocity than was allowed so everyone had to stop until the chronograph was brought out and the rifle tested. It was right at the limit but still allowed. There was also a heated argument over an incident that happened the weekend before I went. Some guy had bought an airsoft claymore mine and set it up on a trail. Someone else spotted it and kicked it out of the way and ended up breaking it with the kick. Lots of back and forth over who was in the right, who was in the wrong, and who should pay.
Most people were pretty decent and the course the local group has set up is really nice. Big and with lots of interesting stuff like a few towers, some trenches, and a few plywood bunkers. If you could limit who was allowed in and get rid of the asshats, it could be a lot of fun.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 30, 2014, 05:13:22 AM
for $700 I can buy a whole range of real pistols.
Yeah. The UNCLE gun is a custom build. The guy does good work (I've gotten some of his stuff) but he is not cheap.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 29, 2014, 07:04:55 PM
Anyone play around with airsoft?
You know about the SESEM; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LwLpTpJ9Do
Last week I had to inventory over 670 groin protectors :uglystupid2:....it's going to take me a while to talk about any paint gun stuff...
did both... paintball hurts a shit load more than airsoft
I laughed when you said kitted out douches... yup that's how a lot of airsofties come out to play
Quote from: Windigo on July 08, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
did both... paintball hurts a shit load more than airsoft
I laughed when you said kitted out douches... yup that's how a lot of airsofties come out to play
After looking at all my kit, I fear I'm going to look like a douche afterall. First game is this Saturday night.
can you walk the walk?
I can so see this as me and JH.
Make sure you post an AAR, JH. It sounds like fun.
...speaking about kitted guys ;)
the uploader has high quality filming Airsoft events as hobby and it shows (check his channel) ...well, he cant pick the actors for his documentations so ;-)
i would suggest that airsofplayer mandatory carry the full weight of the reallife clips in form of small leadplates, that they may drop when they use up their ammo accordingly
but running around with thousends of rounds ...and spray n pray is kind of odd, IMHO
(not in the video above, those have a lot of firediscipline for the airsoftscene it seems)
Those guys take it damned seriously!
I'm totally obsessed with this game now. It takes up a good part of my weekend, as well as a good part of my imagination. I'm constantly thinking about how I can improve my kit and modify my weapons. The game is a real blast. I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a new combat action sport.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
I'm totally obsessed with this game now. It takes up a good part of my weekend, as well as a good part of my imagination. I'm constantly thinking about how I can improve my kit and modify my weapons. The game is a real blast. I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a new combat action sport.
It sounds like a blast. I've thought about doing it before, but the last thing I need is another hobby where I can dump endless streams of cash into it.
Quote from: LongBlade on September 26, 2014, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
I'm totally obsessed with this game now. It takes up a good part of my weekend, as well as a good part of my imagination. I'm constantly thinking about how I can improve my kit and modify my weapons. The game is a real blast. I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a new combat action sport.
It sounds like a blast. I've thought about doing it before, but the last thing I need is another hobby where I can dump endless streams of cash into it.
I'm easily in for about $2,000 total so far. Admittedly, I've gone a bit off the deep end, but I'm enjoying it so much and its great exercise so I can justify it to myself and to the wife.
Well, I've recently returned to shooting real guns as a hobby. Managed to dump close to $2k into that so far and I still feel like a neophyte.
That airsoft SAW has your name written all over it, though!
few things are more fun then driving tacks with a properly sighted M-4/Ar-15.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 26, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
few things are more fun then driving tacks with a properly sighted M-4/Ar-15.
I bought a mini-30. It's a lot of fun. Took my kids out to the range this summer and taught them some basic safety. Then we poked holes in paper. It was great.
I have very little desire to shoot real steel these days. The environment here is too hostile and ammo is too expensive. I'm prepared for the zombie apocalypse and that's about it. I'll still shoot pistol on occasion just to stay somewhat sharp and competent, but other than that, it's all 6mm bbs for me now. I'm using my airsoft guns more than I've used my real guns in years and the best part? With airsoft, you actually get to shoot people without going to jail or having a guilty conscience.
I feel for you.
I would never want to live in NYC.
Rather than a Grog fortress we could probably do just a range.
Quote from: LongBlade on September 26, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
I feel for you.
I would never want to live in NYC.
Rather than a Grog fortress we could probably do just a range.
I've always assumed that at least one range would be on the grounds!
why do I have a vision of Gus sitting at the end of a field holding up a bullseye?
Quote from: LongBlade on September 26, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
I feel for you.
I would never want to live in NYC.
Rather than a Grog fortress we could probably do just a range.
I'm not in NYC so I don't have it THAT bad. The problem is I'm in New York State and Gov. Cuomo is a cock sucker.
Could be worse. The Keystone Kops here in parts of Canuckistan are sending SWAT teams to arrest people who own Airsoft guns. Even worse, rather than admitting they may have over-reacted, they're abusing the power of the state to force the accused to bankrupt themselves in order to be cleared of charges.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/09/20140915-145655.html (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/09/20140915-145655.html)
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 26, 2014, 02:53:15 PM
Could be worse. The Keystone Kops here in parts of Canuckistan are sending SWAT teams to arrest people who own Airsoft guns. Even worse, rather than admitting they may have over-reacted, they're abusing the power of the state to force the accused to bankrupt themselves in order to be cleared of charges.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/09/20140915-145655.html (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/09/20140915-145655.html)
Dude's a Pats fan. Jail's too good for him! ;)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
I have very little desire to shoot real steel these days. The environment here is too hostile and ammo is too expensive. I'm prepared for the zombie apocalypse and that's about it. I'll still shoot pistol on occasion just to stay somewhat sharp and competent, but other than that, it's all 6mm bbs for me now. I'm using my airsoft guns more than I've used my real guns in years and the best part? With airsoft, you actually get to shoot people without going to jail or having a guilty conscience.
Are the airsoft guns accurate enough for marksmanship practice? i am not talking about plugging a nickel accurate. More along the lines of producing a chest wound accurate......
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 29, 2014, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 29, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
a part of my soul just died for you.
Why? I'm not going to be running around all kitted up like a douche. But a few of my friends are having fun with it and it gives me a chance to get off my ass.
Come on. Let's see the kit then.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 26, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 29, 2014, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 29, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
a part of my soul just died for you.
Why? I'm not going to be running around all kitted up like a douche. But a few of my friends are having fun with it and it gives me a chance to get off my ass.
Come on. Let's see the kit then.
Yeah...no. I've admittedly gone full retard, but its a lot of fun and I love scaring the crap out of younger players.
Quote from: DoctorQuest on September 26, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
I have very little desire to shoot real steel these days. The environment here is too hostile and ammo is too expensive. I'm prepared for the zombie apocalypse and that's about it. I'll still shoot pistol on occasion just to stay somewhat sharp and competent, but other than that, it's all 6mm bbs for me now. I'm using my airsoft guns more than I've used my real guns in years and the best part? With airsoft, you actually get to shoot people without going to jail or having a guilty conscience.
Are the airsoft guns accurate enough for marksmanship practice? i am not talking about plugging a nickel accurate. More along the lines of producing a chest wound accurate......
Yes. Out to a certain range depending on muzzle velocity. The problem with these guns is that the barrels are not rifled so they are all smooth bore. To compensate for this, the guns incorporate a system called a "hop-up" which gives the bb a little spin to keep a more stable trajectory. Indoor your FPS should be around 350. This is strong enough to give reasonable accuracy out to 100 to 150 feet without killing the guy that you're shooting at. Outdoors, FPS tends to be above 400 for greater range.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on September 26, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 26, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
I have very little desire to shoot real steel these days. The environment here is too hostile and ammo is too expensive. I'm prepared for the zombie apocalypse and that's about it. I'll still shoot pistol on occasion just to stay somewhat sharp and competent, but other than that, it's all 6mm bbs for me now. I'm using my airsoft guns more than I've used my real guns in years and the best part? With airsoft, you actually get to shoot people without going to jail or having a guilty conscience.
Are the airsoft guns accurate enough for marksmanship practice? i am not talking about plugging a nickel accurate. More along the lines of producing a chest wound accurate......
Yes. Out to a certain range depending on muzzle velocity. The problem with these guns is that the barrels are not rifled so they are all smooth bore. To compensate for this, the guns incorporate a system called a "hop-up" which gives the bb a little spin to keep a more stable trajectory. Indoor your FPS should be around 350. This is strong enough to give reasonable accuracy out to 100 to 150 feet without killing the guy that you're shooting at. Outdoors, FPS tends to be above 400 for greater range.
Some of the Guys I played with had single action sniper rifles with FPS up to 600-700, nasty stuff when you got hit. (we had a safety distance of 10m, largely put in place after one of them put a hole through a cola can)
^yep. 600 to 700 is very high. Anything over 350 can be painful. I make sure my entire body is covered, you just never know what you might get hit with and where. Some people play in short sleeves, or in shorts, or with goggles only and no face protector. I simply can't walk into to work or court with a huge welt on my face because I got shot with a bb.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 27, 2014, 06:31:39 AM
^yep. 600 to 700 is very high. Anything over 350 can be painful. I make sure my entire body is covered, you just never know what you might get hit with and where. Some people play in short sleeves, or in shorts, or with goggles only and no face protector. I simply can't walk into to work or court with a huge welt on my face because I got shot with a bb.
im sure its limited to 300 here, you have to be callabrated before each match
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I should have gotten into this while I worked for Academy Sports - that 20% discount would have come in handy.
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable airsoft online store? The local shops around here just don't have much beyond the basics.
I think JH is your man for that.
So I ended up picking up one of these. After poking around a bit more I found a local sporting goods store that carries a lot of Airsoft guns and accessories.
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It is a gas powered blowback model that does a very good job of replicating the real thing. (I have a real one as well.) It is a lot of fun to shoot and you can't beat the price of ammo and gas.
I'm in the process of setting up an indoor range. O0
Quote from: DoctorQuest on December 07, 2016, 06:00:47 PM
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable airsoft online store? The local shops around here just don't have much beyond the basics.
Sorry I missed this.
In the future, check out evike.com. They have pretty much everything you could ever need, have excellent customer service and are very reliable.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 05, 2017, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on December 07, 2016, 06:00:47 PM
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable airsoft online store? The local shops around here just don't have much beyond the basics.
Sorry I missed this.
In the future, check out evike.com. They have pretty much everything you could ever need, have excellent customer service and are very reliable.
Thanks, JH. I will certainly give them a look.