http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/secret-service-investigating-ted-nugent-s-remarks-about-president-obama?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150745976707726_21923937_10150746990487726#f27ea8063399fa
I think poor Ted may be coming unglued. Great guitarist, but totally fracked in the head !
Ted is Ted, no more need be said. 8)
An ill-advised statement. He should know better.
Maybe he has Mad Cow disease from eating poorly prepared meat (that he killed and butchered himself).
Nothing more colourful than a self-righteous neo-con nut bar.
Pity because with the more moderated approach the NRA has taken over the years I actually support most of what they are messaging. Certain, whack job brain cell depleted spokes people aside of course.
More on the Motor City Madman:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/18/opinion/granderson-nugent/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Its really easy for some of you to just write Ted off as a right wing nut. Apparently, you haven't really listened to much of what he has to say. I suppose one person's right wing nut is another person's patriot who is not afraid to openly defend his constitutional rights.
Anyone who thinks Ted Nugent is an actual threat is a moron. Trust me, the President and his administration pose a much greater threat.
Do I agree with how Ted tried to make his point? Not really, he could have been more eloquent and concise. That being said, I do not believe he was really threatening the life of the President.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 19, 2012, 07:25:05 AM
Anyone who thinks Ted Nugent is an actual threat is a moron. <snip>
Do I agree with how Ted tried to make his point? Not really, he could have been more eloquent and concise. That being said, I do not believe he was really threatening the life of the President.
+1
Still, not the wisest of things to say.
I saw him open for Kiss in Columbia, SC about a decade ago, when the flap was still going on about removing the Confederate battle flag from the State House. When the curtain went up, he was standing there at attention, saluting, wearing a Confederate flag jacket. HUGE cheer from the crowd.
Later in the show, after the jacket was off, he made a comment about "America - love it or leave it." I think he missed the irony of that comment vis-a-vis the Confederate secession.
I appreciate the man's passion and many of the rights he wants to stand up for. However, sometimes his lack of internal consistency is just damn funny.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 19, 2012, 07:51:46 AM
I saw him open for Kiss in Columbia, SC about a decade ago, when the flap was still going on about removing the Confederate battle flag from the State House. When the curtain went up, he was standing there at attention, saluting, wearing a Confederate flag jacket. HUGE cheer from the crowd.
Later in the show, after the jacket was off, he made a comment about "America - love it or leave it." I think he missed the irony of that comment vis-a-vis the Confederate secession.
I appreciate the man's passion and many of the rights he wants to stand up for. However, sometimes his lack of internal consistency is just damn funny.
Heh. Great story.
Jarhead,
Do you think he was merely saying (and I hope he was) that, after reelection, Obama would have him summarily thrown in jail for owning too many guns? If that were Nugent's point it would behoove him, and especially the NRA, to issue a 'clarification' indicating the real intent of the remarks. To do otherwise would only perpetuate the idea that this was a threat and that these are no longer taken seriously when the President is a member of a racial minority. It perpetuates the view that Conservatives are hypocrites in that there was loud condemnation of public disparagement of Republican Presidents for not respecting the Office but that when the President is not a conservative that any and all attacks, political, personal, or even obliquely physical, are done with the blessing of the 'Right Wing Establishment' since there is little attempt to publicly distance itself from the extremes. Hopefully some influential conservatives will call on Nugent to clarify his remarks for the public good and to maintain respect for the Office, not necessarily the actual man. If that clarification follows then we know it was a misspoken remark and will help to diffuse the issue. If Nugent refuses and the NRA itself has no moderating public response then it will be used to great effect to undermine any efforts by reasonable conservatives to influence the political debate as seen by the most important group of voters there is- the centrist independent and probably undecided.
As long as the National public debate is merely a screaming match between loudmouths trying to influence primarily their own base, especially those too unmotivated to vote, then the Swing Vote will once again trudge sadly to our local polling places, holding our noses the whole way.
staggerwing - you gotta learn to work w/ line breaks buddy...
unless my browser window is expanded to max width, your text wraps like the attachment.
I think you're hitting "return" at the end of every line when you don't need to.
Sorry, Brant. It looks good on my screen:
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I'll try modifying it.
What resolution do you run at? I'm at 1440x900.
if I widen the browser, it looks OK, but even on a 1440x900 screen, I'm frequently doing multiple things here (I *am* at work, after all! :) ) so my browser will sometimes be set up on only 1/2 the screen.
not an earth-shattering event... just wanted to let you know :D
As noted above, I think the biggest problem with Nuge is not his right wing views, but his expressive methodology. It totally destroys any credibility his perspective may have. He always struck me as a smart dude - he really needs to take a more articulate approach and get his shit together. Probably too late now to ever be taken in a serious fashion again. Sorta reminds me of Jesse Ventura and his ego-laden approach to any serious issues...
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 19, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
As noted above, I think the biggest problem with Nuge is not his right wing views, but his expressive methodology. It totally destroys any credibility his perspective may have. He always struck me as a smart dude - he really needs to take a more articulate approach and get his shit together. Probably too late now to ever be taken in a serious fashion again. Sorta reminds me of Jesse Ventura and his ego-laden approach to any serious issues...
Well, despite the fact that he drinks my flavor of kool-aid (or close enough) I've gotta say that I prefer my entertainers to stick to entertaining and not to politics.
His lack of credible articulation does no more than watching some movie star on the left babble incoherently about whatever cause they support. He should just stick to music since that's what he does best.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 09:16:42 AMI've gotta say that I prefer my entertainers to stick to entertaining and not to politics.
I'll throw the "disagree" flag here :)
I don't mind when people have a significant interest in other things and they express those interests. I prefer they do it in a better fashion that Ted has, but Reagan didn't exactly stick to acting, and Bill Bradley didn't exactly stick to basketball, and both of them turned out OK.
Heck, most of us are here well outside our daily swim lanes, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
It bothers me when I hear criticism of people spouting off about causes/interests outside of their chose profession, because the criticism is virtually always "(s)he should stick to..."
I don't buy that for a second. I have no problem with people exploring interests away from their chose profession.
I prefer they do it from an educated and well-informed frame of reference (which *rarely* happens) but even if I disagree with much of Al Franken's politics, I would never say "he should stick to comedy writing" just because he has a political opinion he wants to express.
Heck, if all Curt Shilling did was stick to baseball, MMP probably wouldn't be churning out ASL products.
Meh. I bristle when Danny Glover love hugs Hugo Chavez. YMMV.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
Meh. I bristle when Danny Glover love hugs Hugo Chavez. YMMV.
I think it's a dumb move that I disagree with, but I'm not going to tell him he can't make a dumb move just b/c he's an actor.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 19, 2012, 07:25:05 AM
Its really easy for some of you to just write Ted off as a right wing nut. Apparently, you haven't really listened to much of what he has to say. I suppose one person's right wing nut is another person's patriot who is not afraid to openly defend his constitutional rights.
Anyone who thinks Ted Nugent is an actual threat is a moron. Trust me, the President and his administration pose a much greater threat.
Do I agree with how Ted tried to make his point? Not really, he could have been more eloquent and concise. That being said, I do not believe he was really threatening the life of the President.
Bottom line Jarhead (notice your full name) is he made a very disparaging remark about your democratically elected president... that, like it or not ,is still strongly supported. And if guys like Ted keep saying shit like that, Obama will get another 4 years. So go on... publicly support that asshat... it'll give you 4 more years of what you deserve.
and you know I'm right....
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 19, 2012, 07:51:46 AM
I saw him open for Kiss in Columbia, SC about a decade ago, when the flap was still going on about removing the Confederate battle flag from the State House. When the curtain went up, he was standing there at attention, saluting, wearing a Confederate flag jacket. HUGE cheer from the crowd.
Later in the show, after the jacket was off, he made a comment about "America - love it or leave it." I think he missed the irony of that comment vis-a-vis the Confederate secession.
LOL!
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 11:32:54 AM
Bottom line Jarhead (notice your full name) is he made a very disparaging remark about your democratically elected president... that, like it or not ,is still strongly supported. And if guys like Ted keep saying shit like that, Obama will get another 4 years. So go on... publicly support that asshat... it'll give you 4 more years of what you deserve.
and you know I'm right....
Actually, at the moment, Mr. Obama's poll numbers are fairly bad. Keep in mind things haven't really kicked into full gear, but...um...no. You're wrong.
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Last two polls indicate Romney ahead of Obama. One is within the margin of error. The other not.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Last two polls indicate Romney ahead of Obama. One is within the margin of error. The other not.
I think Obama has the cute andf cuddly factor over Romney. Obama unless you guys hit a crisis that requires 'a leader' (like Bush Jr. (heh))
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Last two polls indicate Romney ahead of Obama. One is within the margin of error. The other not.
Just wait 'til all us Canucks sneak across the border and vote like last time ;)
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 19, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Last two polls indicate Romney ahead of Obama. One is within the margin of error. The other not.
Just wait 'til all us Canucks sneak across the border and vote like last time ;)
shhhh...they think we just come across the border for cheap dairy
This was in the Halifax paper this morning:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/88226-goodman-will-ted-nugent-s-shocking-bile-harm-mitt-romney
Here's a little bit of creepy:
I visited this link to read the article just after I visited the link in Pining's thread on replica German Uniforms and guess what advert was at the bottom of the page? Yep, the place that sells the uniforms. I checked again with an anonimous page and no uniform link, just a random advert that changed every time I refreshed. Now I'm probably in Google's database as having nazi sympathies. Bad Google! >:(
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 20, 2012, 07:03:17 AM
Here's a little bit of creepy:
I visited this link to read the article just after I visited the link in Pining's thread on replica German Uniforms and guess what advert was at the bottom of the page? Yep, the place that sells the uniforms. I checked again with an anonimous page and no uniform link, just a random advert that changed every time I refreshed. Now I'm probably in Google's database as having nazi sympathies. Bad Google! >:(
Heh.
I ordered a dress for my sister for her birthday. Now I'm getting all these dress adverts. I buy one stinking dress as a gift and suddenly every advertising engine in the country thinks I'm a cross-dresser.
I'm less worried about the data mining by private companies - if they do something stupid I just get an ad for something useless. But just imagine this kind of stupidity tied to predicting crime. Then the real keystone kops start partying.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 08:51:41 AMI buy one stinking dress as a gift and suddenly every advertising engine in the country thinks I'm a cross-dresser.
that doesn't mean they're wrong!
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
I'm less worried about the data mining by private companies - if they do something stupid I just get an ad for something useless. But just imagine this kind of stupidity tied to predicting crime. Then the real keystone kops start partying.
Exactly my point. Remember, you are
all my associates now...
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 20, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 08:51:41 AM
I'm less worried about the data mining by private companies - if they do something stupid I just get an ad for something useless. But just imagine this kind of stupidity tied to predicting crime. Then the real keystone kops start partying.
Exactly my point. Remember, you are all my associates now...
And vice versa.
Can you imagine what the data tags look like? Nazi, cross-dressing, violent game playing, techno savvy, hot wimmen lovin, dog owning, car driving, gun nut, dvd watching, music listening...have we left anything wacky out?
Surely there's a phrase for this? Data mining proves you're the idiot you deserve?
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:09:18 AM
Can you imagine what the data tags look like? Nazi, cross-dressing, violent game playing, techno savvy, hot wimmen lovin, dog owning, car driving, gun nut, dvd watching, music listening...have we left anything wacky out?
Just a bit of survivalist tech lore and a back and forth about how many old smoke detectors one needs to get to harvest a small amount of radioactive material vs how many trips to go dumpster diving behind the Nuclear Medicine labs. That aught to do it. ::)
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:09:18 AMhave we left anything wacky out?
guess we need subforums for the occult, and comic books
then we should have our bases covered
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2012, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:09:18 AMhave we left anything wacky out?
guess we need subforums for the occult, and comic books
then we should have our bases covered
I'm personally not much of a fan of the occult, but I'm sure someone around here can pick up the slack.
As for comics, I'm down with that.
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Longblade's next Halloween costume
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LOL.
It does look tempting.
Looks like I'm not the only guy struggling to find a good one this year:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081018094903AAgQdGP
In other news: http://fuckyeahhalloweencostumes.tumblr.com/
Once Obama wins, I suspect that Zombie Ted Nugent will be a good Halloween costume, based on his comments.
Or Prison-Break Ted Nugent.
I never cared for the Nug, but even without that, I would know better than to put any stock into his drug-addled statements. The flap over this indicate a pretty slow press cycle, IMHO.
I don't care if actors express themselves religiously and politically. What would the gossip rags do if they didn't? And think of the hit to the economy if our gossip rags went out of business! Tom Cruise alone was responsible for the economic bubble during the Bush years.
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 19, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: Windigo on April 19, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
wrong how...that you'll get the government you deserve or that Obama will get back in if dumbass' keep making scary shit comments againsts democrats
Last two polls indicate Romney ahead of Obama. One is within the margin of error. The other not.
Just wait 'til all us Canucks sneak across the border and vote like last time ;)
Shush you!! We only ever crossed to vote for Slick Willy!! ;) Oh and to buy cheap booze, smokes, and gas!!
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2012, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:09:18 AMhave we left anything wacky out?
guess we need subforums for the occult, and comic books
then we should have our bases covered
I'm personally not much of a fan of the occult, but I'm sure someone around here can pick up the slack.
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Sonny, Gus and I could cover it!
Quote from: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 09:38:45 AM
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Not underground any more....
Admittedly, those are pretty awesome, topped-off by the transformer gif kid.
I'm afraid I might have to bring this thread back on track.
Ted Nugent is in trouble again. He apparently went beyond his limit hunting black bear in Alaska.
QuoteA plea agreement with federal prosecutors signed by Nugent says he illegally shot and killed the bear in May 2009 on Sukkwan Island in southeast Alaska after wounding another bear in a bow hunt. The bow incident counted toward a state seasonal limit of one bear.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/04/24/ted-nugent-to-plead-guilty-to-illegal-black-bear-kill
Terrible Ted continues to get more media attention and should be in jail according to some:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/18/opinion/granderson-nugent/index.html
I'm not sure how to respond to "went beyond his limit hunting bears." I guess the idea of Ted Nugent, in a forest, shooting a bear with a bow while it roars and rushes at him... well... sounds like a Ted Nugent album cover idea.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on April 25, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
I'm not sure how to respond to "went beyond his limit hunting bears." I guess the idea of Ted Nugent, in a forest, shooting a bear with a bow while it roars and rushes at him... well... sounds like a Ted Nugent album cover idea.
If I read the article correctly he wounded a bear with a bow and then either shot with rifle or bow a second and killed it.
However, Alaska seems to count the wound as part of your limit and therein lies the problem.
At least that what I thought it said. I didn't read the details too closely. He's obviously in trouble, and I simply wanted to share since we already had a thread going.
Still sounds like a kickin' album cover.
Raises some interesting questions about game laws ? All the time I spent hunting, nobody ever mentioned a wounded animal being part of the bag limit?
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 25, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
Raises some interesting questions about game laws ? All the time I spent hunting, nobody ever mentioned a wounded animal being part of the bag limit?
Yeah that don't sound right somehow.... :o
Here's another article with more detail.
QuoteAccording to the document, Nugent illegally shot and killed the bear in May 2009 on Sukkwan Island in southeast Alaska after wounding another bear in a bow hunt. The bow incident counted toward a seasonal limit of one bear in that location. Nugent and his lawyer, Wayne Anthony Ross, said neither of them knew about that law.
The judge said he wasn't aware of the "sort of one-strike policy" either.
"It probably is not widely known, and if there is a side benefit to the agreement reached here today — since apparently newspapers are interested in Mr. Nugent and his doings — this probably will serve to alert a great many hunters to that very issue and may, in fact, prevent violations in the future and court activity for a whole slew of folks."
The plea agreement says Nugent knowingly possessed and transported the bear in misdemeanor violation of the federal Lacey Act.
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/ted-nugent-pleads-guilty-illegal-ak-bear-kill-210208890.html
Ah... he let the wounded bear go and shot a different one. Jacka$$.
I guess it comes down to the ethical conduct of a hunter. You always track a wounded animal - I think the sport part of hunting eludes a lot of people - those who see not getting anything a failure. Doing it right is part of the satisfaction. At least that's what the Old Man beat into my head!
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 25, 2012, 01:34:49 PM
I guess it comes down to the ethical conduct of a hunter. You always track a wounded animal - I think the sport part of hunting eludes a lot of people - those who see not getting anything a failure. Doing it right is part of the satisfaction. At least that's what the Old Man beat into my head!
Your old man is wise. Not only is this hunter satisfaction, it is also the most humane thing to do.