Anyone watching?
Yeah. Good start last night. Should be interesting. So far I've picked out Cat Woman, the Penguin(easy since they named him), and the Riddler..... but who is Fish?
Quote from: Barthheart on September 23, 2014, 06:56:00 AM
but who is Fish?
Entirely new character created for the show.
Was Ivy in the premiere? She's another character that's supposedly going to be part of Gotham.
Didn't pick up on Ivy..... doesn't mean she wasn't there though....
Quote from: mirth on September 23, 2014, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on September 23, 2014, 06:56:00 AM
but who is Fish?
Entirely new character created for the show.
Was Ivy in the premiere? She's another character that's supposedly going to be part of Gotham.
Yeah, she was the daughter of the dude who had the pearl necklace in his drug bag. They called her Ivy and she was fondling her plants when they came in.
I wonder if the comedian auditioning for Fish will be the Joker. Hope not.
And who was the big guy that needed the "Pills"?
Donal Logue is going to be Two Face, isn't he? My DC lore is much weaker than my Marvel.
Quote from: MetalDog on September 23, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
Donal Logue is going to be Two Face, isn't he? My DC lore is much weaker than my Marvel.
Is his character named Harvey Dent? If not, no.
Logue is playing Harvey Bullock, not Dent. He's going to be Gordon's partner in Gotham.
Thanks for the correction fellas.
I believe I'm hooked. Wasn't sure last week, but now I foresee total hookage imminent.
I haven't watched the last two weeks. Forgot last week and remembered this week, but made no effort to turn the tv on. What is it you like?
Without any spoilers, I like the presentation that you can't really be sure who anybody is, good or bad, except for Gordon and he's conflicted. Some good plot twists in the last episode and I keep thinking I'm gonna see somebody I know from the novels though I'm not very versed in the Batman world. The whole corruption angle is overplayed and gets a little old after a while. Not a lot of action so far and pretty violent for an 8pm show. Very little humor like in the Marvel show. But it's got emotion and the acting is first rate so I'll stick around to see who shows up.
Yeah, I like everything Slash just pointed out. I also love the style of the camera work/editing. Very comic book/graphic novel feeling. Humor is more dark than funny.
The corruption thing being overplayed is very comic book as well... at least to me. Lots of intricate plots being developed. Hope they can keep it up.
Another good episode. Plot's getting thick but the conflicted girlfriend's getting thin. And why does everyone in Gotham have to have a fireplace? Is there no Direct TV?
Another good episode. When is The Riddler going to get into the act?
I wasn't impressed with the first episode, but I'm starting to think I'll get into this. The visuals alone seem worth it.
Plus it has Donal Motherfucking Logue.
Who will turn in to Two Face :P
Why does Logue's character carry a 38 revolver? Is he trying to be different or is it a Bullock tie-in thing? And why doesn't his hat ever get knocked-off in a fight? Must be some Arkam mousse.
Quote from: MetalDog on October 20, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Who will turn in to Two Face :P
We haven't met Harvey Dent yet......
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 21, 2014, 09:55:07 AM
Why does Logue's character carry a 38 revolver? Is he trying to be different or is it a Bullock tie-in thing? And why doesn't his hat ever get knocked-off in a fight? Must be some Arkam mousse.
I think the .38 is a Bullock thing from the comics.
As for the hat, he's too bad ass to have it knocked off.
Quote from: Barthheart on October 21, 2014, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 20, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Who will turn in to Two Face :P
We haven't met Harvey Dent yet......
If I had two nickels to rub together, I would bet each one of you that Logue turns in to Two Face. It only makes sense.
How do you recon "Fish" Mooney got her nickname? There's got to be a vagina joke in there somewhere. :coolsmiley:
Quote from: MetalDog on October 21, 2014, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 21, 2014, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 20, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Who will turn in to Two Face :P
We haven't met Harvey Dent yet......
If I had two nickels to rub together, I would bet each one of you that Logue turns in to Two Face. It only makes sense.
As much as I would personally want that, I don't think it will happen. Harvey Bullock and Harvey Dent are two very distinct characters in the Batman universe. Donal Logue is an ideal Harvey Bullock, but he doesn't fit as Harvey Dent/Two-Face.
Well. That'll teach me to make pronouncements about things I know nothing about.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. That'll never happen :2funny:
you should try making a pun about it.
But he could be Harvey Dent in disguise....
oops...
sorry - nothing to see...move along ::)
Err.... wrong place? ???
The Penguin's mother. Is this the same actress who played on Taxi as Latka Gravas' girlfriend? With the same accent? Anybody go that far back?
The actress you are thinking of is Carol Kane and she does appear in the IMDB listing for Gotham, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001406/.
She was also in 'Princess Bride' as the old lady wife of Billy Crystal's character. The accent is a theatrical affectation although she may have some kind of medical issue that slightly affects her pronunciation because I remember seeing her in an old Woody Allen film where she spoke so normally I didn't recognize her at first.
Then if it's the same girl I was thinking, she and Andy Kaufman used to do scenes on Taxi where they both played characters from some eastern European country where they go back and forth at each other in a totally impossible to understand native language. It used to crack me up and I always wondered if it was scripted or they just made it up as they went along.
Same woman.
Thank you clearing that up gentlemen.
Looks like Harvey Dent will show-up shortly.
Season finale tonight. Hope it's not Series finale.
Nope. It'll be back in January.
It's back. And was quite good tonight. Finally....Arkam Asylum. And the actor who played Gruber is my favorite villain from Hell On Wheels. Great to see him branching out. O0
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 27, 2014, 09:56:44 PM
The Penguin's mother. Is this the same actress who played on Taxi as Latka Gravas' girlfriend? With the same accent? Anybody go that far back?
Man, nice catch!
Gotham is a pretty enjoyable show. Lots of good actors and a decent script so far.
Agree Steel. This show makes me want to check-out the DC world more. And like SOA, I can't usually see what's coming and I like that.
I finally had time to watch the latest episode. It felt kind of weak. Was the crazy nurse the same chick who played the crazy secretary in Moonlighting?
So now we've got Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow, and up next.... The Joker. Finally. I really like this series but it kind of feels like they're throwing everybody at us to try to keep our attention. I expect to see a new-born Robin any time now.
So the Season ender was tonight and being clueless about most of the DC comics universe, I was kind of shocked at the final scene. A bus escaping from Arkam Asylum crashes and a bunch of future baddies escapes including an exact twin of a young Bruce Wayne. :o So question DC experts out there, was this a genuine DC villain or a Fox-inspired creation for next season?
Can't think of any DC villain the twin for young Bruce Wayne would be. "Hush" surgically altered himself -- I won't spoil who that is, in case he's on the show already as he might well be (I don't watch the show). There is at least one more villain, maybe two, who were designed as mirror images of Bruce Wayne's life and career, but neither one are twins of Bruce or look close enough to be twins.
Considering how hacky some of the translations of characters to screen have been (both in DC TV shows and TV Marvel, with Gotham being certainly no exception), I would not be surprised if someone thought one of those characters would be improved, or maybe cheaper to do with only one actor, if he also just happened to look exactly like Bruce Wayne.
Consequently, if it isn't a new character I'm going to bet it's Prometheus, the anti-Batman, who might very well have been sent to an asylum (though why Arkham who knows) due to having had his murderous thieving parents shot dead by a cop in front of him. If his hair was white, that would be a major clue -- the boy's hair turned white from the shock. I'm not sure Prometheus' name was ever revealed, so that wouldn't be helpful. (The first, completely unrelated Prometheus did have a name; the New 52 rebooted Prometheus hasn't had a name revealed I think. The "main" post-Crisis supervillain liked to assume other identities, and so like the Joker didn't have a known original identity.)
^Translation: Maybe.
This guy had long black hair with Bruce Wayne's face. Probably just some tease to next season's major bad guy dreamed-up by Fox. It's a good show though.
Research suggests the internet doesn't have any clear clues about the Bruce clone (other than calling him the Bruce clone). Possibly Hugo Strange created Hush early (not really a clone) as one of his psychology experiments. Or the writers decided Prometheus should actually look like Bruce and not have white hair. ::) :P I'm leaning toward the former based on what I've read about Season 2.
There's some speculation that the clone may be the show's interpretation of Lincoln March.
Huh. Okay, that's a Nu52 character (I think??), so not surprising I hadn't heard of him before.
Quote from: JasonPratt on June 03, 2016, 02:12:24 PM
Huh. Okay, that's a Nu52 character (I think??), so not surprising I hadn't heard of him before.
Yeah. I don't know much about him either, but he's connected to the Court of Owls which I guess the show has introduced. It's all very speculative.
I may have to start actually watching it now :P
Nice look at the influence of Batman: The Animated Series on the evolution of the character
That was well-produced, but kind of uncritically overplayed. BTAS is good and definitely important, no dispute. But it has A LOT of weak points and whole episodes. And, uh, yeah actually there are more than a few hints of anachronistic dating. The show can get away with it better due to its ambitious all-time design; it'll probably look better as time goes on simply because it incorporates a swath of past-time visual and operational tropes dating back to Batman's origins in the 1930s. But that's because eventually everything in it will be outdated yet functionally incorporated retro-noir. ;)
As series, I'd have to add as I usually do, that I think SuperTAS, BatBeyond, and (despite some early stumbling) the Justice League seasons, are all superior. I'd even argue that SuperTAS is consistently better than the others, although I think JL/JLA accomplishes more overall.
It needs to be kept in context. BTAS was like no other animated series that had been done to that point. It rivaled, and in some ways exceeded, anything that had been done in the comics or films. It set the standard for how to do an animated comic series and it holds up remarkably well today. There may be better animated comic book series today, but BTAS set the standard for everything that has come since.
OK. Finally caught-up with the series premier from last Monday and the guy in the mask? Could it be..... Green Hornet? Anybody else catch this one?
Can't recall if DC owns the rights to Green Hornet now. My guess is not if not, and I feel at least 98% sure they didn't have anything to do with the (pretty decent) recent Hornet movie.
He's working for the Owl Council and just kidnapped Bruce Wayne after kicking Alfred's ass pretty good. I'm thinking it's a ploy and he's really a good guy. But nobody's called him anything yet. He looks very Green Hornet-ish.
He could still look that way for an homage, of course.
(Dangit, does literally everything Batman related necessarily trigger me to want to play the Arkham games again...??!!?)
Well we got no answers tonight. He only had a bit part.
OK. Fox's got a weird 'Gay' thing going on between Penguin and Riddler on this show and before I start throwing things at the TV, I'm willing to look into anything related to the DC Series that had this as a plot line. Mind you neither character is full-blown( No pun intended) gay yet nor are they the full-blown DC characters they become yet either. But.... was there ever anything like Homo-Erotic Tendencies between these two or is it just Fox/PC BS? Experts opine.
Nothing I ever recall. Seems new for the TV series.
Figures.