There are reports of gunshots in a Canadian Parliament building with the shooter on the loose. What is going on in Canada?
Just watching this live as it unfolds.
One soldier at our National War Memorial in the middle of Ottawa was shot by a man carrying a rifle. The shooter then ran towards Parliament Hill which is about a 2 minute walk from the Memorial.
Unconfirmed reports of shot fire on the Hill and about a second gun man.
Soldier's condition unknown, he was taken to hospital, didn't look good from TV footage.....
Elizabeth May, a Member of Parliament, just tweeted that she heard shots in the center block and think police have shot one gunman there.
More shots heard at the Chateau Laurier, very large famous hotel right next to the Hill.
Police dogs searching streets around the Hill.
Police say the shooter is on roof of building at Metcalfe and Sparks 1 block from Parliament Hill.
well, if he's on the roof, he's phooked unless he's got aerial extraction capability
Good picture of Parliament Hill and surrounding area.
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Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2014, 10:16:37 AM
well, if he's on the roof, he's phooked unless he's got aerial extraction capability
Yeah... why do they always run UP? :idiot2:
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliament-hill-attacked-soldier-shot-at-national-war-memorial-in-ottawa-1.2808710
Those are Mounties, btw.
updating regularly here
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/soldier-shot-at-war-memorial-in-ottawa
This is good too, it a live blog from a bunch of CBC reporters downtown.
http://live.cbc.ca/Event/Ottawa_War_Memorial_shooting
WTF?
Get him.
One shooter confirmed dead in Center Block. O0
One, possible two others at large.....
Guardian blogs are usually the best for these types of stories trying to be more factual and less sensational
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/oct/22/canadian-parliament-lockdown-shooting
Here is footage of shooting int he Parliament building
best luck to the police.
Not the time or the place.
fair enough
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Soldier shot at Memorial is alive and being treated. O0
Good luck guys...sorry to see this happening. Any link to yestrlerday's shooting?
Quote from: Gusington on October 22, 2014, 11:12:56 AM
Good luck guys...sorry to see this happening. Any link to yestrlerday's shooting?
Yesterday's shooting? You mean the car running down a soldier? I doubt there's a close tie in other than radical wing nuts.
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers is being credited by MP's with keeping them safe by killing the gunman inside the House of Commons. O0
Sergeant at Arms - A senior official of the House appointed by Governor in Council, the Sergeant-at Arms assists the Clerk as head of parliamentary precinct services, performing certain ceremonial functions and being responsible for security and building services.
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers is being credited by MP's with keeping them safe by killing the gunman inside the House of Commons. O0
Sergeant at Arms - A senior official of the House appointed by Governor in Council, the Sergeant-at Arms assists the Clerk as head of parliamentary precinct services, performing certain ceremonial functions and being responsible for security and building services.
If it is true then he certainly lived up to the original medieval origin of his title and not the ceremonial one given today
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Quote from: Con on October 22, 2014, 11:33:03 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers is being credited by MP's with keeping them safe by killing the gunman inside the House of Commons. O0
Sergeant at Arms - A senior official of the House appointed by Governor in Council, the Sergeant-at Arms assists the Clerk as head of parliamentary precinct services, performing certain ceremonial functions and being responsible for security and building services.
If it is true then he certainly lived up to the original medieval origin of his title and not the ceremonial one given today
Con
Indeed. Well done.
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers is being credited by MP's with keeping them safe by killing the gunman inside the House of Commons. O0
Sergeant at Arms - A senior official of the House appointed by Governor in Council, the Sergeant-at Arms assists the Clerk as head of parliamentary precinct services, performing certain ceremonial functions and being responsible for security and building services.
Damn, now that's a man who earned his paycheck. Bravo.
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers is being credited by MP's with keeping them safe by killing the gunman inside the House of Commons. O0
Sergeant at Arms - A senior official of the House appointed by Governor in Council, the Sergeant-at Arms assists the Clerk as head of parliamentary precinct services, performing certain ceremonial functions and being responsible for security and building services.
Not too shabby for a 57 year old retired RCMP officer! I see a medal in his future.
Reading some on the reader comments on CBC's website just makes my head shake. So many dumb comments including one that this was a false flag attack staged by the Canadian government in order to have an excuse to cancel next year's election. Or that the attack was done by a right winger who wants more civil liberties taken away from Canadians.
Where do such 'people' get such ludicrous ideas?
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
Soldier shot at Memorial is alive and being treated. O0
QuoteGovernment caucus was just informed that CF soldier has died.
Seems he didn't make it after all........ :'(
Very sad. Prayers to his family.
Oh good grief. >:(
Dumbass politician may have gotten it wrong. May have been talking about soldier from yesterday's car attack, who did die from his injuries.
Quote from: WallysWorld on October 22, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
Reading some on the reader comments on CBC's website just makes my head shake. So many dumb comments including one that this was a false flag attack staged by the Canadian government in order to have an excuse to cancel next year's election. Or that the attack was done by a right winger who wants more civil liberties taken away from Canadians.
Where do such 'people' get such ludicrous ideas?
The same idiots who insist that 9/11 and the twin towers was a US Government/Israeli/Big Oil conspiracy. More mouth than brains, and generally despicable human beings.
Unfortunately CBC's blog is reporting that the soldier has died and that is from multiple sources.
http://live.cbc.ca/Event/Ottawa_War_Memorial_shooting (http://live.cbc.ca/Event/Ottawa_War_Memorial_shooting)
dammit
Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers.
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Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
Soldier shot at Memorial is alive and being treated. O0
QuoteGovernment caucus was just informed that CF soldier has died.
Seems he didn't make it after all........ :'(
I'm sorry to hear that.
:'(
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
Soldier shot at Memorial is alive and being treated. O0
QuoteGovernment caucus was just informed that CF soldier has died.
Seems he didn't make it after all........ :'(
So sorry to hear this. :'(
Hockey game between Ottawa Senators and Toronto Maple Leafs cancelled tonight. :(
Should have gone on, to show those asshats we can't f#@&ed with.
Quote from: WallysWorld on October 22, 2014, 12:14:36 PM
Unfortunately CBC's blog is reporting that the soldier has died and that is from multiple sources.
http://live.cbc.ca/Event/Ottawa_War_Memorial_shooting (http://live.cbc.ca/Event/Ottawa_War_Memorial_shooting)
F@CK! >:(
They usually use reservists, high school and college kids to do lots of the ceremonial guard duties on Parliament Hill.
Yeah, this guy was a reservist from Hamilton.
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Random bystanders and other guard as they try to save the shot soldier before EMTs show up.
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
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Random bystanders and other guard as they try to save the shot soldier before EMTs show up.
Yeah, I saw that, and the video of the EMT's working on the soldier. :( Looked very bad for him, and it was. >:( :'(
Who the hell did this? I can't find any references to whom pulled this off other than "the suspect" or "the perpetrator."
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 12:39:47 PM
Yeah, this guy was a reservist from Hamilton.
I'm sure he was proud to be serving time at the National War Memorial. So sad.
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Quote from: Banzai_Cat on October 22, 2014, 12:52:25 PM
Who the hell did this? I can't find any references to whom pulled this off other than "the suspect" or "the perpetrator."
Initial eye witness accounts said it was a man armed with a double-barreled shotgun. The witness claimed he was wearing a white headband or bandana with arabic writing on it. There was another man crouching near him with a similar headband on.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on October 22, 2014, 12:52:25 PM
Who the hell did this? I can't find any references to whom pulled this off other than "the suspect" or "the perpetrator."
We don't know yet. They're still looking for one guy and the other..... is not talking. O0
Very sorry to hear the soldier died. Not so sorry to hear the shooter did.
As for the Sergeant-at-Arms, the shooter should have known better to tangle with a man who can successfully wear such an imposing hat. Good on 'im!
Man, this is just crazy. Thoughts & prayers for the family of the slain soldier, and my hopes that no one else is hurt.
Time to nail this radicalized trash... Hopefully this will spur further action to deal with the wackos here at home!
My heart goes out to that soldier's family. If there is any evidence that the perp was radicalized by a person or persons within reach of Western law enforcement then a harsh example should be made of them.
Quote from: Staggerwing on October 22, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
My heart goes out to that soldier's family. If there is any evidence that the perp was radicalized by a person or persons within reach of Western law enforcement then a harsh example should be made of them.
Good point. These young people are probably being set off by leaders in their community with a chip on their shoulder.
Foxnews is reporting that today's suspect was in email contact with the suspect from Mondays attack...
Quote from: steve58 on October 22, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
Foxnews is reporting that today's suspect was in email contact with the suspect from Mondays attack...
If true, that is a disturbing development.
terrible news >:(
now its hightime that the citizens of the western minded or NATO states force their according local governments to take action in-country.
radical or 'traditional' (so they often call themselves) Muslims who are not citizens of those countries has to be expelled!
those are easy to identify by the way they dress end especially how they force their womenfolk to dress.
(burka, and headscarves should be outruled outside of private property or mosques in all our nations.
its ok to impose personal religious diet rules upon oneself, but being offended if others dishes are served to neighbour at the dining table or even in the whole restaurant, is a sign for radicalism and leads to expelation)
immigrants get citizenship granted only on a long probation, and so citizenship can be revoked.
children from immigrants don't get citizenship at birth. the citizenship is offered when the child had been raised to the value judgement of the western society at the age of 21 and it can be revoked for up to 10 years
convects to Islam get monitored and if they show sign of radicalism can loose their citizenship in a trial court
those may apply for citizenship in other nations like SaudiArabia or Gulf Emirates if they choose so
Interesting comments Mike. I find it interesting to note that Monday's radical Muslim killer of a Canadian soldier was prevented from leaving the country to fight with ISIS/ISIL, so he killed a soldier here in Canada. Had he only been allowed to leave, WO Vincent would be alive today.
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:'(
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Picture from about 12 minutes before the shooting of Cpl. Nathan Cirillo (left).
Corporal Cirillo was a reservist with the Hamilton, Ontario-based Princess Louise's Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada.
Some background on Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers whose heroic actions prevented an even worse tragedy.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ottawa-shooting-miramichi-very-proud-of-kevin-vickers-1.2809944 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/ottawa-shooting-miramichi-very-proud-of-kevin-vickers-1.2809944)
QuoteAfter the assailant was shot, Vickers entered the Conservative caucus room, where Prime Minister Stephen Harper was at the time of the shooting and explained what happened.
Vickers told the room he engaged with the assailant.
"I put him down," the former RCMP officer said.
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Sergeant at Arms Vickers really earned his pay. Sorry he had to be placed in that situation but he really stepped up.
This is also why you do not mess with the Bureau of Silly Hats guarding the Vatican. :coolsmiley:
Mike: I'm more concerned with outlawing, vigorously investigating, and prosecuting actual wife abuse than with outlawing and prosecuting religious dress.
banning a burka or headscarf would not have prevented those individuals from carrying out their crimes. Their were locals, who were easy targets to be manipulated and to get them to covert themselves to this perverted ideas. That is ISIS's tactic which has been used in the western world.
I think they had to prevent him from travelling, since there might have been the possibility that he would just travel south to the States and cause trouble elsewhere.
So far, what we know about these two criminals it that they were "radicalized" over the internet and not by any locals. These two are just petty thugs that were not man enough to join gangs to do bad things to other people and instead believed that doing cowardly acts in the name if ISIL might give their sorry lives some kind of meaning.
It is this kind of "over the net" recruitment the needs to be fought. And not by censorship that is always bad.
Maybe the ISIL website need to be vigorously attacked/hacked... redirecting visitors to police web sites or mental health websites or even nice friendly religious websites. Surely our police forces/intelligence services have the ability and manpower to fight that kind of battle.
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Quote from: Centurion40 on October 23, 2014, 07:08:11 AM
Interesting comments Mike. I find it interesting to note that Monday's radical Muslim killer of a Canadian soldier was prevented from leaving the country to fight with ISIS/ISIL, so he killed a soldier here in Canada. Had he only been allowed to leave, WO Vincent would be alive today.
Tough call. Maybe in the future we let them go with a GBU homing beacon.
The Serjeant-at-Arms given rousing ovation in the House of Commons today.
Video:http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1)
Quote from: Barthheart on October 23, 2014, 07:28:07 AM
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There's an old saying: the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
Bravo sergeant-at-arms!
My thoughts and prayers are with Corporal Crillo and his family. What a shame.
Quote from: WallysWorld on October 23, 2014, 10:10:44 AM
The Sargent-at-Arms given rousing ovation in the House of Commons today.
Video:http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1)
OK..... that choked me up..... :'( O0
Quote from: Barthheart on October 23, 2014, 10:42:16 AMOK..... that choked me up..... :'( O0
heck, you got me with this one...
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Quote from: WallysWorld on October 23, 2014, 10:10:44 AM
The Serjeant-at-Arms given rousing ovation in the House of Commons today.
Video:http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=474846&playlistId=1.2067122&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1)
I've had the news on pause so I just saw this broadcast "live" on Fox a few minutes ago. It was a great moment for a great democracy.
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That brought tears to my eyes.
yup
That cartoon is seriously stirring.
Definitely one of Bruce McKinnon's best.
Got to me as well. Probably should've held off the morning shave until the chin stopped quavering.
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Wow. Well, Cpl. Cirillo is up "there" with them now. :'(
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 23, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 23, 2014, 10:42:16 AMOK..... that choked me up..... :'( O0
heck, you got me with this one...
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I'm not sure which one choked me up more easily...but they both did.
Ha. Reporter talking about the gunman described him as "one of lifes losers".
If the media would keep piling on that pathetic loser talk when describing these jerkoffs they might not seem so glamorous to other disaffected youth who are looking for something to belong to.
Quote from: Staggerwing on October 23, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
If the media would keep piling on that pathetic loser talk when describing these jerkoffs they might not seem so glamorous to other disaffected youth who are looking for something to belong to.
Agree.
RIP Cpl Nathan Cirillo
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Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 23, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on October 23, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
If the media would keep piling on that pathetic loser talk when describing these jerkoffs they might not seem so glamorous to other disaffected youth who are looking for something to belong to.
Agree.
RIP Cpl Nathan Cirillo
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Looks like a nice guy.
What a fcuking shame.
If you've a mind to, you can help set up a trust fund for the families of Cpl. Cirillo and WO Vincent.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-fund-for-the-canadian-victims-of-terrorism
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Another way to contribute is to buy a print of the MacKinnon "cartoon".
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1245912-bruce-mackinnon-s-war-memorial-cartoon-touches-hearts-worldwide
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Quote from: Gusington on October 23, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
That cartoon is seriously stirring.
Ditto. I could, and did, look at it for a few whole minutes.
Many Canadians out to honour Cpl Cirillo on his trip home to Hamilton today
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^That is incredibly touching.
Man what a terrible thing this attack is. Logic would dictate that it shouldn't bother me so much, but it does. I can't really put my finger on why.
Amazing display of respect.
I think it shows Islamist attacks can never win. An attack on our soldier is an attack on our society. Everyone will circle wagons to it's defense.
I suppose you're right. If attacks like this are meant to sow fear then they fail. The picture above proves that.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 24, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
I think it shows Islamist attacks can never win. An attack on our soldier is an attack on our society. Everyone will circle wagons to it's defense.
That's exactly right.
Quote from: LongBlade on October 24, 2014, 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 24, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
I think it shows Islamist attacks can never win. An attack on our soldier is an attack on our society. Everyone will circle wagons to it's defense.
That's exactly right.
I truly wish that were the case, but I think the trends of reactions by governments and societies across the globe over the last decade have proven the opposite to be true.
There may be some overreaction moving to a big brother state. I think it will correct itself, these things tend to follow cycles. People overreact in one direction then the other as they realize the ramifications of new policy. Western civilization is too strong for islamists, it is too strong for Russian aggression. The only real threat is internal crumbling. A prime example would taking more and more resources from people with capability to make life easy for those without. If it is over 10-15% IMO it is dangerous. We must help people up , not give handouts to paraphrase one of your ex Presidents. Anything that would be considered investment in something that could add to society should be encouraged. Handouts which are negative investment should be discouraged.
A media commentator on the radio today complained Harper contacted Obama and Netenyahu (sp?) before giving information to Canadians. First I think it is good to know those are strong allies. It is also good to know we are all in the same situation. The sharing of info may have been important for some reason. The radio person is blind to the big picture IMO.
Quote from: Gusington on October 24, 2014, 09:41:45 PM
^That is incredibly touching.
Man what a terrible thing this attack is. Logic would dictate that it shouldn't bother me so much, but it does. I can't really put my finger on why.
Is it the one death is a tragedy and XXXX is a statistic thing
I find the picture above as moving as the cartoon and the applause for the sergeant at arms.... it's very sad
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 24, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
There may be some overreaction moving to a big brother state. I think it will correct itself, these things tend to follow cycles.
Agreed. After 15 years it's time for this to cycle back.
Quote from: LongBlade on October 25, 2014, 08:29:00 AM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 24, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
There may be some overreaction moving to a big brother state. I think it will correct itself, these things tend to follow cycles.
Agreed. After 15 years it's time for this to cycle back.
It just so happens I saw this movie on netflix after your post today. It seems things have gone further than I understood. Maybe things would change faster if people had any idea of what was being done. The reality is almost eveyone is clueless. That includes the law enforcement "preventers" that are struggling with how to use this new power they have.
http://www.netflix.com/WiPlayer?locale=en-CA&movieid=70279201&trkid=13462055&tctx=28%2C9%2C33a579ea-0caf-49c0-909b-0b4e751d58a3-8346437
Very interesting movie.
Now that I think about it, the "preventers" have probably hacked my amazon account. I say this because I remember seeing a bunch of stuff for paintball displayed as things I might like. I have never done paintball or anything like it. Maybe someone looked up protective gear for paintball in my account so they had an excuse to read my kindle books. The bitches.
Sadly, the parliamentarians are already reacting out of fear and a need to do something, even if it's the wrong thing. Bill C-42, the common sense firearms act, has been put on indefinite hold due to the actions of one nutbag.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 25, 2014, 04:14:21 PM
Sadly, the parliamentarians are already reacting out of fear and a need to do something, even if it's the wrong thing. Bill C-42, the common sense firearms act, has been put on indefinite hold due to the actions of one nutbag.
In the US all these laws do is punish legal gun owners.
The Act was meant to ameliorate the problems faced by legal gun owners in Canada due to previous actions and legislation.
Quote from: LongBlade on October 25, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 25, 2014, 04:14:21 PM
Sadly, the parliamentarians are already reacting out of fear and a need to do something, even if it's the wrong thing. Bill C-42, the common sense firearms act, has been put on indefinite hold due to the actions of one nutbag.
In the US all these laws do is punish legal gun owners.
I never thought of it that way, it makes sense. I have always thought if someone like that kind of thing keep it on the range or in a locker. Any guns in the house would be a problem if stolen. How would someone feel if their gun was used in a robbery? Watching "The walking dead" lol on netflix it makes me think of the people that really feel they need to protect themselves. If they go through the process, making every effort to be responsible, there is nothing wrong with it. Of course the criminals will find a way to get guns, as you say.
Of course in Canada the average citizen has no idea what bills are being advanced, not that it matters, the only thing anyone can do is write a letter to their MP. The MP tows the party line. For a lot of things we get our idea of what the law is from tv shows, which are most likely US based. I did business law so I know a bit about those things. The rest, no idea.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 25, 2014, 05:09:52 PM
Of course in Canada the average citizen has no idea what bills are being advanced, not that it matters, the only thing anyone can do is write a letter to their MP. The MP tows the party line. For a lot of things we get our idea of what the law is from tv shows, which are most likely US based. I did business law so I know a bit about those things. The rest, no idea.
Here the NRA (National Rifle Association) is quite active. I get emails breaking down by state what legislation (both good and bad) is going through state houses as well as at the Federal level. It's now election season and the NRA has a website dedicated to educating members which candidates are pro- and anti-gun: https://www.nrapvf.org/
Sounds like you guys could use something like that to advocate for responsible firearms owners.
We have two. The NFA and the CSSA but they're in a purse fight with each other and spend more time and effort trying to discredit one another than informing and advocating.
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/News/10318953/story.html
Props to all those people who ran towards danger and tried to help.
Quote from: Gusington on October 27, 2014, 09:46:02 AM
Props to all those people who ran towards danger and tried to help.
Yes, you see images of action, you see images of people just crouching beside their squad car. Nobody knows how they would react until they are in the situation.
http://o.canada.com/news/photos/photos-cpl-nathan-cirillo-funeral-536129
Touching and tragic.
Kudos to USMC Major Sinke for this act!
http://www.westernjournalism.com/retired-marine-stands-guard-canadian-war-memorial-amidst-threats-life/#1jUO7eG6YVvcrx8J.99 (http://www.westernjournalism.com/retired-marine-stands-guard-canadian-war-memorial-amidst-threats-life/#1jUO7eG6YVvcrx8J.99)
Retired Marine Major R. E. G. "Fox" Sinke, Jr., a highly decorated veteran who did tours in Vietnam, has been standing guard over Canada's National War Memorial in honor of Corporal Nathan Cirillo, who was killed last month by a lone wolf terrorist while guarding the memorial..99
^That Marine has some gigantic cajones. God bless him:
"I have always dreamed of being able to confront an evil-doer and run him through with this damn sword."
It's cool a dual citizen is doing that. The method of his stand shows good judgement. There can be a tendency of people in law enforcement to develop a hero complex, where they want the honors so bad they do things to create a situation. He is not hunting them down like a vigilante. His 'let them come' approach clearly forces the enemy to cross the line.
Two thumbs up for him.
there was a feature on the news here a week ago about a piece that some media company in canada did
they got one of their crew to go into the streets and verbally abuse muslims in light of this event to see what happened
upshot?
he got punched in the face by a Canadian guy for bad mouthing the muslim
Maybe he got punched in the face for being an asshole.
lol, yeah thats a distinct possibility, bear in mind he was deliberately provoking them in front of crowds of Canadians, and they were all firmly on the muslims side
It's quite difficult to get me in a fight unless I am really threatened. I will jump to the defense of people I see being abused quite fast. Many people are probably the same.
Are you trying to say it's alright to treat people like shit if they are a certain ethnicity? Or that Canadians love potential radicals? Both are BS.
That's not how I see UCG's post at all. If anything he seemed to do nothing more than draw a connection between someone acting like an asshole and then getting a punch in the mouth.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on November 09, 2014, 05:51:57 PM
It's quite difficult to get me in a fight unless I am really threatened. I will jump to the defense of people I see being abused quite fast. Many people are probably the same.
Are you trying to say it's alright to treat people like shit if they are a certain ethnicity? Or that Canadians love potential radicals? Both are BS.
lol neither, just pointing out as Staggerwing has said that people being assholes in canada get punched in the mouth
Quote from: endfire79 on November 09, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
Kudos to USMC Major Sinke for this act!
http://www.westernjournalism.com/retired-marine-stands-guard-canadian-war-memorial-amidst-threats-life/#1jUO7eG6YVvcrx8J.99 (http://www.westernjournalism.com/retired-marine-stands-guard-canadian-war-memorial-amidst-threats-life/#1jUO7eG6YVvcrx8J.99)
Retired Marine Major R. E. G. "Fox" Sinke, Jr., a highly decorated veteran who did tours in Vietnam, has been standing guard over Canada's National War Memorial in honor of Corporal Nathan Cirillo, who was killed last month by a lone wolf terrorist while guarding the memorial..99
Awesome.
Quote"He says, 'God man, you got more balls than brains don't you?' " Sinke said. "So I said, 'Well actually, sir, I was kind of hoping that one of those scum-of-the-earth radicals would show up and take me on because, to tell you the truth, I have always dreamed of being able to confront an evil-doer and run him through with this damn sword.' So he kind of liked that, you know."
Epic. O0
Kevin Vickers, the sergeant-at-arms in Canada's House of Commons who became a household name for thwarting a gunman's attack on parliament in October, is to be the next Canadian ambassador to Ireland (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/canadian-parliament-hero-to-be-next-ambassador-to-ireland-1.2059383).
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Nice.
Excellent. Congrats to Mr. Vickers!
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sorry for the necro-post but wanted to share this picture from earlier in the day of the PM and PM elect laying a wreath in remembrance of two soldiers slain last October. The airman to the right of them is the son of one of my shiftmates (also a AF veteren). Needless to say, he is bursting with pride. Ironically, my shiftmate was a driver for Pierre Elliot Trudeau for a short while during his military career.
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