Wow, I didn't think this re-imagined console version would ever come to the PC. But it is!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/328600/
Changes:
QuoteWhat's new in Frozen Synapse Prime?
• Enhanced Visuals – The look and feel of the game has been enhanced with new player models, motion captured animations, detailed geometry, new lighting and themes, improved cameras and more.
• Redesigned UI – The games UI has received a complete overhaul to make it more user friendly and immediate for players.
• New Commands and Gameplay Tweaks – Players can now Sweep around a fixed point as well as Aim in a fixed direction, a dynamic cone of vision shows you exactly where your unit can see, you can now focus or ignore on individual rooms quickly, firefights can end with both units dying and rockets can now direct hit another unit and explode on impact.
• New and Improved Campaign – The campaign story has been restructured, individual missions have been redesigned to make them more fun and the difficulty curve has been improved particularly in the early missions.
• Multiplayer Overhaul – Each multiplayer mode has been tweaked to improve the player experience - rule changes, scoring changes, improved feedback and more. Creating and finding a match is now much easier and replays of all your matches are available in the Replay Theatre.
• New SFX – The entire game has had its sound effects reworked, from the guns and explosions to the front end menus, all balanced with the epic soundtrack.
• Customization – Fully customize and preview the map layout and your squad of units before each Skirmish or Multiplayer match.
• Tutorials – Two new tutorial missions perfect for getting you up to speed with how the game is played very quickly.
• Hints Bar – The Hints Bar gives you an overview of what you can do at any given time, helping new players learn the game's controls and commands really easily.
• New ways to play - Fully playable with XInput controllers (perfect for Big Picture) as well as full keyboard and mouse controls.
• Optimizations – Level and Map Generation is now much faster.
• Fully Localized – The game is fully localized in English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Japanese.
Exclusive Steam Content!
• Arenas – Specially designed maps available to play against the AI or online. Learn the map, develop your strategies and take on the world.
• Extended Soundtrack – The original Frozen Synapse soundtrack plus all the tracks from the Red expansion and included in Frozen Synapse Prime.
• Steam Achievements – A brand new suite of achievements covering the campaign, skirmish mode and online.
• Steam Trading Cards – A new set of Frozen Synapse Prime trading cards to collect.
Sounds great (even if I am going to wait and see to be sure ;) )! Now comes that conundrum: do I keep playing the original until I finish the campaign, or do I abandon it and jump right to this new remastered campaign? :buck2:
Nice! I'm likely all over this.
I asked the question on the Steam forums..didn't get a good response.
Will this have a single player, randomly generated skirmish mode, with random maps, and random forces?
Second question..can we randomize the maps and enemy forces, but use a force builder for our side..to try out tactics, and refine our game play?
Quote from: DennisS on November 02, 2014, 05:43:00 PM
I asked the question on the Steam forums..didn't get a good response.
Will this have a single player, randomly generated skirmish mode, with random maps, and random forces?
Second question..can we randomize the maps and enemy forces, but use a force builder for our side..to try out tactics, and refine our game play?
Good questions! I hope yes, but based on your experience on the Steam forums, and the fact this is being ported over from the Vita, the answer probably will be a no. If that is the case, no loss. I still love the original FS. Even if the answers are no, the game will be a worthwhile purchase as a backup to FS when that game gets stale.
I forgot about this. I'll probably wait and see, but if the discount for former FS owners is decent i'll probably jump in. 2 vs 2 would be nice or 1vs 1vs1 .
Well its out (http://store.steampowered.com/app/328600/). The increased recommended specs will keep me from this one for a while though...
$23 for two copies.... so temping.... It looks really good and the game is already a blast to play....... my poor wallet.... :knuppel2:
Yeah, I just got notified it was out. I need to check out the forums to see if we have any answers to DennisS' questions.
Oh, I thought this was a free upgrade to bring the PC version's graphics in line with the PS version. And it doesn't support Linux either, even though the original does!
I'm out.
How do you get the 50% off coupon for previous owners...anybody...i asked in the steam forums no response yet.
Mine just appeared in my inventory, budd. I'm sure yours will appear soon, but you can just have mine if you want.
In your steam inventory? i never bought it on steam. Thanks for the offer i might take you up on it. I'm on the fence right now, not liking a lot of what i'm reading about it so far.
OK, well if you want it send me a PM.
Got it, meaning I have a 2nd copy up for grabs...
There are some neat additions, like being able to set your guys to 'peek' in a specific direction while moving a different way.
You were always able to do that, Arctic. Perhaps that's why I consistently kicked your arse! :D
did you play multiplayer yet? I read its not that easy to switch between games and that you aren't able to rebind your control keys...basically interested in your opinion comparing it to the original.....is there much reason to switch to the newer version.
If you still have the copy i'd like to take you up on it please. After reading a lot about it, it was the Das video that sold me and i do so like the concept. That and the skirmish mode, i'm not much for the campaigns.
Can't remap the keys? No sale.
looks like you can mouse the whole thing with the control order wheel thingy, would of preferred the right click menu thing of the original but it doesn't look to cumbersome in the video.
Cool stuff! 50% coupon discount. BAM!
2 copies for 9 euro's is a steal!
I have a spare copy to gift so first come, first serve! :)
BTW is it the same game /story as the first game?
I still have a -50% coupon for this if anyone wants it.
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 04:34:00 AM
Cool stuff! 50% coupon discount. BAM!
2 copies for 9 euro's is a steal!
I have a spare copy to gift so first come, first serve! :)
BTW is it the same game /story as the first game?
I'd love a copy if you still have it.
Yes, tgb I still have it. What is your Steam handle and I'll send it ASAP! O0
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 16, 2014, 04:39:15 AM
I still have a -50% coupon for this if anyone wants it.
Huw, I'll take that action if it's still open. :)
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 06:47:23 AM
Yes, tgb I still have it. What is your Steam handle and I'll send it ASAP! O0
bernstein.harvey.
Thanks a million. Appreciate it.
OK, my voucher's gone. :)
Tgb, I just got called to work so I'll send it tomorrow.
The game seems to be a direct PS Vita port; press start to begin greets you at the titlescreen and the Controls page shows controller assignments instead of keys.
No idea how it plays yet.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 16, 2014, 08:05:14 AM
OK, my voucher's gone. :)
Thanks again Huw!
So now I have a free 2nd key if someone wants it. You'd also have to tell me how to transfer it to you.... :buck2:
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 08:48:16 AM
Tgb, I just got called to work so I'll send it tomorrow.
The game seems to be a direct PS Vita port; press start to begin greets you at the titlescreen and the Controls page shows controller assignments instead of keys.
No idea how it plays yet.
No problem. Whenever you get the chance, I appreciate it.
Quote from: Barthheart on November 16, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 16, 2014, 08:05:14 AM
OK, my voucher's gone. :)
Thanks again Huw!
So now I have a free 2nd key if someone wants it. You'd also have to tell me how to transfer it to you.... :buck2:
I'd like it if you dont mind. The easiest way is a friend request then go to your inventory and i believe gift the game to the friend.
Quote from: -budd- on November 16, 2014, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on November 16, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 16, 2014, 08:05:14 AM
OK, my voucher's gone. :)
Thanks again Huw!
So now I have a free 2nd key if someone wants it. You'd also have to tell me how to transfer it to you.... :buck2:
I'd like it if you dont mind. The easiest way is a friend request then go to your inventory and i believe gift the game to the friend.
Sure budd, I just sent you a friend invite. When you accept it the game is yours.
O0
And sent!
Thank you sir, appreciate it.
Ok just played some of the campaign. I liked it the first time through and I'm gonna like it this time too.
This version ups the visual look and feel of the game.
Thanks again Huw. O0
The only thing its' missing, and was missing in the original as well, is to be able to rotate the map to get a view from different angles...
You're welcome Barthheart; I'm glad the coupon didn't go to waste. :)
Don't forget to post some videos!
Quote from: Barthheart on November 16, 2014, 02:55:48 PM
Ok just played some of the campaign. I liked it the first time through and I'm gonna like it this time too.
This version ups the visual look and feel of the game.
Thanks again Huw. O0
The only thing its' missing, and was missing in the original as well, is to be able to rotate the map to get a view from different angles...
How's the randomization of the maps? One of the things I love about the original's campaign is how the maps are partially randomized so that it never gets stale.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 15, 2014, 06:57:09 PM
You were always able to do that, Arctic. Perhaps that's why I consistently kicked your arse! :D
I don't mean changing your facing direction. I mean giving a peek direction and then a movement direction. Your guy will peer off in the peek direction while still moving in the movement direction. So he spots any bad guys down that corridor and engages them, then continues moving. I don't remember that in the original.
There are lots of little tweaks like that here. You can now add commands to created pauses as well after ordering one, rather than having to try to figure it all out from beginning to end while issuing commands.
Anyway, if anyone wants my second copy, it's up for grabs. I should be around a bit more today to actually respond. ;D
Quote from: Arctic Blast on November 16, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
I don't mean changing your facing direction. I mean giving a peek direction and then a movement direction. Your guy will peer off in the peek direction while still moving in the movement direction. So he spots any bad guys down that corridor and engages them, then continues moving. I don't remember that in the original.
Yeah, it's called check (http://fs.error420.com/wiki/Check) in the original game, and good use of it is invaluable.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 16, 2014, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on November 16, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
I don't mean changing your facing direction. I mean giving a peek direction and then a movement direction. Your guy will peer off in the peek direction while still moving in the movement direction. So he spots any bad guys down that corridor and engages them, then continues moving. I don't remember that in the original.
Yeah, it's called check (http://fs.error420.com/wiki/Check) in the original game, and good use of it is invaluable.
Well then, the new game does a much better job of actually teaching that this stuff is in the game. :)
Fair point. The original game does a poor job of teaching you to play. I found using the unofficial wiki a must.
here some shots of the skirmish setup.
I like that you can preview the map before the game. Thats the maximum height and width.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1144.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo484%2Fronnie8691%2F2014-11-16_00001_zps94aca95a.jpg&hash=5e3541ee00453a054093c63ac15eadfd6c6ef631)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1144.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo484%2Fronnie8691%2F2014-11-16_00003_zpsa4e50c76.jpg&hash=423080915009e61dbbb9e49a2e6615114de332e0)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1144.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo484%2Fronnie8691%2F2014-11-16_00002_zps1321827a.jpg&hash=e212bc5288c56998c4a4c8a8be6109792823aa90)
It would be nice if as mentioned earlier to be able to rotate the map, and youtube integration would also be nice. The order system with not being able to rebind the keys isn't a deal breaker but it is not as easy as the original. I especially don't like having to have the order wheel open to be able to use the hotkeys. It loads the turns and replays faster for me than the original and its nice being able to click on a enemy and seeing their LOS, helps with planning for sure. You can even plot enemy moves and see how your plan works. That's a few early impressions, haven't tried multiplayer yet.
tgb, friend request has been sent. Once you accept I can send you the game. O0
One more thing you might want to be prepared for is all the planning takes longer with the new control scheme, it needs to be streamlined.
Quote from: -budd- on November 16, 2014, 07:01:44 PM
here some shots of the skirmish setup.
I like that you can preview the map before the game. Thats the maximum height and width.
Thanks for posting those! I like how they expanded the skirmish options.
Might need to take advantage of the coupon.... :)
I've been playing single player skirmish and reading the steam forums. A community inspired patch is on the way according to the dev's. Some things i learned, you only stack 8 orders together, you can only have 6 vs 6 per side, these are limitations the original didn't have. I really...really miss being able to zoom the replays and a map camera tilt would be real nice. Grenades don't take out walls, which i like. Mg's vs shotty's up close seem to lean toward the Mg's now, which i don't like, pretty much the only advantage the shotty had over the MG was getting in close. Time to go try out the multiplayer.
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
tgb, friend request has been sent. Once you accept I can send you the game. O0
I didn't get it.
Quote from: tgb on November 16, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
tgb, friend request has been sent. Once you accept I can send you the game. O0
I didn't get it.
Open your friend list and scroll to the bottom. Don't you see my request listed there?
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 17, 2014, 04:25:31 AM
Quote from: tgb on November 16, 2014, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 16, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
tgb, friend request has been sent. Once you accept I can send you the game. O0
I didn't get it.
Open your friend list and scroll to the bottom. Don't you see my request listed there?
Nothing. Try the ID tgb12
No it doesn't show anyone under tgb12, but it does under bernstein.harvey.
I have cancelled the friend request, but now I get an error when I want to re-invite you. :uglystupid2:
Maybe its a time thing. I'll try again tonight.
Or, you try adding me; yskonyn
Sent. Steam may be having a glitch in processing these. I can't imagine why I wouldn't have received it.
Yes I got it.
Can't seem to gift you the game via the Steam app on my Phone so that will have to wait until tomorrow. Gotta sleep now.
Great success! Thanks again, Yskonnyn