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Title: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Rayfer on November 25, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
God help us....it has begun.  Today through January 11th.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Slick Wilhelm on November 25, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/wintersales/MG_MG_SALES_HolidaySale2014_PriceList_MG.pdf (http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/wintersales/MG_MG_SALES_HolidaySale2014_PriceList_MG.pdf)

Nice, lots of 50-60% off prices.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: MengJiao on November 25, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: Slick Wilhelm on November 25, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/wintersales/MG_MG_SALES_HolidaySale2014_PriceList_MG.pdf (http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/wintersales/MG_MG_SALES_HolidaySale2014_PriceList_MG.pdf)

Nice, lots of 50-60% off prices.

  Wow!  I suspect I'll get Command and try out some Terrier, Tartar and Talos missiles.
  Or Revolution under Seige!
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Asid on November 25, 2014, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on November 25, 2014, 11:06:00 AM

  Or Revolution under Seige!

Definitely worth checking out  O0
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 12:33:20 PM
World in Flames is on sale! How can I resist?  :D
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 12:33:20 PM
World in Flames is on sale! How can I resist?  :D

How does this compare to HOI
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
Also, what's peoples opinion of Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich.  I always liked Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, and have been looking for something to fill that void.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: airboy on November 25, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
Alea Jacta Est looks to be the only thing I'm going to pick up.  If Jim Cobb and Bobbit both say it is wonderful, it has got to be good.  I also don't have any strategic wargames from the Ancient Rome period.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 25, 2014, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 12:33:20 PM
World in Flames is on sale! How can I resist?  :D

How does this compare to HOI
Well, HoI works  :P

And HoI4 is more finished  :P

I don't know. It's not finished. Not anywhere near finished. There are still lots of bugs to go through. It's still only solo (unless you open up your computer). No AI. No Netplay. Broke. What's not to like  :P

Seriously though I did buy it second hand from someone (on these boards) because I love the look of the game and the play method sounded cool
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 25, 2014, 01:04:09 PM
Alea Jacta Est was superb. As was Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich. Great games. I'd listen to other peoples opinion of Eagle Day because it can be heavy ... it is a GG game after all.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Lord Zimoa on November 25, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
Our iOS Autumn Sale is now on! Up to 50% off most of the line up for 6 days only!

http://bit.ly/1bT7BCB


Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 25, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
OK. Case Blue for $20. Good deal or no. Who's played it? Who liked it, who didn't? Is it too much monster to handle?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
I've been holding off on Revolution Under Siege for a long time...
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Slick Wilhelm on November 25, 2014, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
I've been holding off on Revolution Under Siege for a long time...

Of all the Ageod games, I found RUS to be both the easiest to learn and get into, and also the most interesting. YMMV, of course. Definitely worth the price of admission!
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Asid on November 25, 2014, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
Also, what's peoples opinion of Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich.  I always liked Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, and have been looking for something to fill that void.

I would check the official Matrix forum to answer that question as it has issues.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=229 (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=229)

Regards
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Asid on November 25, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 25, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
OK. Case Blue for $20. Good deal or no. Who's played it? Who liked it, who didn't? Is it too much monster to handle?

Decisive Campaigns: Case Blue . I enjoyed it and found the monster not as scary as say WITPAE. Interesting use of cards also. I did not regret the purchase.

Regards
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Asid on November 25, 2014, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
I've been holding off on Revolution Under Siege for a long time...

Very enjoyable and worth the money, especially at this price.

Regards
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Asid on November 25, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: airboy on November 25, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
Alea Jacta Est looks to be the only thing I'm going to pick up.  If Jim Cobb and Bobbit both say it is wonderful, it has got to be good.  I also don't have any strategic wargames from the Ancient Rome period.

I found it enjoyable and worth the money.

Have you tried Hannibal: Rome and Carthage in the Second Punic War? This is also on sale and an excellent game.

Regards
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: sandman2575 on November 25, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 25, 2014, 01:56:18 PM
OK. Case Blue for $20. Good deal or no. Who's played it? Who liked it, who didn't? Is it too much monster to handle?

Slash, if you liked DC Blitzkrieg Waraw to Paris, DC Case Blue is a no brainer. If anything, it's better -- and the game engine is much improved from the original, making turn processing times much shorter.

I've been spending more time with WITE lately, after being pretty hugely disappointed with it when it first came out. My negative opinion of WITE has softened somewhat, but I'd still take DC Case Blue over WITE any day of the week, if forced to choose.

Make no mistake. Case Blue is a Big game, despite not covering the entire war a la WITE.  So, it's a game to savor, not likely a game you can finish up in a couple of nights.

I can't recommend it highly enough. Superb game.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: magnus on November 25, 2014, 04:44:17 PM
 For some reason Case Blue for me is much more manageable than WITE.

I don't know why. The amount of counters in WITE is probably less at times then CB.

It just works as a game. It has never felt like work to me to make a turn.

Coming from a boardgame background CB is one of the best games I have played, which is way too many.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 25, 2014, 05:49:58 PM
Lol! Look at world in flames compared to my purchase price.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Should I bother to get the RUS boxed version? I have this and the WOFF expansion teed up.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Con on November 25, 2014, 06:34:39 PM
Too bad I was hoping for a Christmas sale on Distant Worlds

Con
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.

Why? Details, details! I'm close to spending some bucks here!
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.

Why? Details, details! I'm close to spending some bucks here!

It might be just me, but the last year has been a constant stream of a patches and still seemed like going strong.  Just don't trust starting a monster game only to discover some bug later in the game.  Maybe I am just tainted since I expected to play this last year and spent decent amount on it.  I do like the books and that was part of the attraction.  Maybe if your starting now with a lot of fixes done it would be a different experience.

Just my two cents..,
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Hmm, do the patches break saves then? I envisioned playing an on-going solitaire game that would last for who knows how long.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Hmm, do the patches break saves then? I envisioned playing an on-going solitaire game that would last for who knows how long.

Not entirely sure....the list of fixes per patch has been lengthy....so even if it doesn't break a save I wonder if still impacts gameplay because of so many changes being done.  Simply don't know.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: spelk on November 25, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
Also, what's peoples opinion of Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich.  I always liked Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, and have been looking for something to fill that void.

Bruce Geryk did a very entertaining few game diaries on Eagle Day, worth a read if you're considering it.

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2011/08/29/eagle-day-one-more-time-with-churchills-few/
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Al on November 25, 2014, 07:31:27 PM
Think I'll finally take the plunge and get WITE.   :crazy2:
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
^See you in 5 years.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 25, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on November 25, 2014, 12:50:56 PM
Also, what's peoples opinion of Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich.  I always liked Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, and have been looking for something to fill that void.

Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich has no actual 'flight sim' component such as SWOTL had. A closer comparison with SWOTL's strategic layer over a flight sim would be Battle of Britain II: Wings of Victory (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/353/details/Battle.of.Britain.II.-.Wings.of.Victory) and it's only 10 US bucks during the sale.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 09:45:47 PM
My first casualty - I had to buy World in Flames, the physical copy. If nothing else I'm sure I'll enjoy the books.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 25, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
Oh no! Not that title.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Bison on November 26, 2014, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Should I bother to get the RUS boxed version? I have this and the WOFF expansion teed up.

There is no benefit to the physical copy besides a disc and disc case.  The manual is just a pdf on the disc, which is the exact same as the download but you get the privilege of paying $10 more for it.

Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:23:36 AM
Quote from: bbmike on November 25, 2014, 09:45:47 PM
My first casualty - I had to buy World in Flames, the physical copy. If nothing else I'm sure I'll enjoy the books.
Enjoy the books
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:33:14 AM
Command Ops games are not on sale  ???

I know there's no "link" there now, but I would've thought they could still "sale" the products when they are still on sale there.

Strangely HTTR and CotA ARE on sale??  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 26, 2014, 01:33:45 AM
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH  Im not listening to you mad men!
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Toonces on November 26, 2014, 01:46:37 AM
<sigh>

Every time there is one of these sales I say it's the time when I'm finally going to buy into the Field of Glory series.

I am also looking at Great Battles Medieval. 
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Martok on November 26, 2014, 02:37:44 AM
Hmm.  I notice there's a distinct lack of Distant Worlds titles on sale. 




Quote from: Bison on November 26, 2014, 12:01:57 AM
Quote from: Gusington on November 25, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Should I bother to get the RUS boxed version? I have this and the WOFF expansion teed up.

There is no benefit to the physical copy besides a disc and disc case.  The manual is just a pdf on the disc, which is the exact same as the download but you get the privilege of paying $10 more for it.
What Bison said.  Unless you are (like myself) overly enamored of owning a physical copy of the disk, there's no reason to get the boxed version. 

You should definitely pick it up, though.  >:D  I still can't believe you haven't already! 

Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 26, 2014, 03:14:26 AM
Quote from: Toonces on November 26, 2014, 01:46:37 AM
<sigh>

Every time there is one of these sales I say it's the time when I'm finally going to buy into the Field of Glory series.

I am also looking at Great Battles Medieval.

Ill help discourage you. FOG AI sucks big time. Only worth it if you plan to do MP. In fact Pike and Shot proved that the Battle Academy engine is better at doing FOG. Rules although it cannot implent it to the letter.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Anguille on November 26, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
Tempted as usual but i hope i won't buy anything...too many games on my "to play" list that i already own.  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: FlickJax on November 26, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
Thinking of COH Storm of Steel - not sure though as forum looks rather dead
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 05:02:43 AM
Quote from: FlickJax on November 26, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
Thinking of COH Storm of Steel - not sure though as forum looks rather dead
The CoH game was one that didn't transition well into a computer game. The main reason for that was the 3D implemented and rules change - both of which made the boardgame. The graphics and counters on the boardgame are top notch...something was lost in the transition to computer.

I believe the developer changed the game to have a 2D option with the chits looking as the boardgame, but the game still had the 3D implementation of the LoS iirc.

It didn't hit the sweet spot for me I hoped it had. Not a bad game, especially with the developer eventually adding the board game feel, looks and rules.

To be fair, boardgames seldom do translate well. Something (for me) to do with the physical feel and setup of everything
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 26, 2014, 07:03:36 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 05:02:43 AM
Quote from: FlickJax on November 26, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
Thinking of COH Storm of Steel - not sure though as forum looks rather dead
The CoH game was one that didn't transition well into a computer game. The main reason for that was the 3D implemented and rules change - both of which made the boardgame. The graphics and counters on the boardgame are top notch...something was lost in the transition to computer.

I believe the developer changed the game to have a 2D option with the chits looking as the boardgame, but the game still had the 3D implementation of the LoS iirc.

It didn't hit the sweet spot for me I hoped it had. Not a bad game, especially with the developer eventually adding the board game feel, looks and rules.

To be fair, boardgames seldom do translate well. Something (for me) to do with the physical feel and setup of everything

Didn't do it for me as well.  My reasoning is that it's so gamy that real-world tactics don't work well.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:08:20 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Tuna on November 26, 2014, 07:25:04 AM
I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  :crazy2: .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: smittyohio on November 26, 2014, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:08:20 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

Ditto.   At least with other games I bought and haven't played much, I can put the blame on myself.   I talked myself into this one figuring I'd have the year or 2 to play around before the AI was out.  It's been too broken for all but the most diehard WIF fanboy to play up to this point.   The forum activity (or lack of) seems to bear that out too.  At the rate things are going, we might be on Windows 16 and have to run the game in a virtual machine.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 07:38:23 AM
Quote from: Tuna on November 26, 2014, 07:25:04 AM
I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  :crazy2: .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?
lol.

Buying a known broken game = bad
Re-buying a known broken game = proper mental.

Of course I'm not going to buy it again. I may well do when it's working, fixed, has multi play and AI - possibly.

I would love those books though. I'd likely pay £50 just for them - but of course because Matrix/Slitherine screwed the release up and shafted everyone, they couldn't come up with any "packages" to sell. So you're stuck buying the game for £60 broken and as a DD or buying the game for £60 broken and as a physical copy which will give you the printed manuals...another mental aspect of that game's release.

I don't want to be too "down" on Matrix. They've gave me a huge amount of gaming pleasure in the past - but the release of that game is not just unjustified, it's borderline criminal I would've thought.

I'll learn it one day though...I promise myself
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: Tuna on November 26, 2014, 07:25:04 AM
I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  :crazy2: .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?
Until the 11th Jan
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:47:04 AM
Quote from: smittyohio on November 26, 2014, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:08:20 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

Ditto.   At least with other games I bought and haven't played much, I can put the blame on myself.   I talked myself into this one figuring I'd have the year or 2 to play around before the AI was out.   At the rate things are going, we might be on Windows 16 and have to run the game in a virtual machine.

That was my original thinking as well....I always heard how great a board game it was, so I thought I would play it and try and learn the system solitaire before the AI came out...at worst, I thought that was a year or two away.  If I am not mistaken at release, Matrix released a message that said something like ALL issues would be resolved in two weeks, which obviously later on they had to revise that statement as we still sit here in fix mode.  To be honest, I have zero hope that an AI will ever be developed at this point, just can't imagine they got the kind of sales they needed to really keep this alive long term.  Even if it does get implemented, I can only imagine we are years away from ever seeing it and by then the game likely will need an overhaul because its technology/development platform will be outdated.

The interesting part about this monster war game is I am not sure if I have ever seen anyone report they completed a full large campaign in this game, even during the beta testing.  Therefore, I can't imagine that there are not issues lurking in the later parts of the game nobody has discovered yet....really demotivates me into spending a lot of time with the game, keeping in the back of my mind that I likely will see a failure at some point.  I will need to see a successful campaign completed before I would even consider putting time into it.

One good thing that came out of this for me is that it helped me reduce the amount of new games I buy on impulse (not completely cured yet, but certainly a little more selective than a year ago) :)
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: MengJiao on November 26, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on November 26, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

Ok thanks....some reason I had thought it was less complex and time consuming...but sounds like I was wrong...appreciate the info.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Rayfer on November 26, 2014, 09:49:14 AM
Crap! I had thought Piercing Fortress Europa had been out long enough to make the sale but it didn't. Still might get SOW's Pipe Creek and Brandy Station for $4.99 each.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 26, 2014, 10:43:41 AM
Quote from: Martok on November 26, 2014, 02:37:44 AM
There is no benefit to the physical copy besides a disc and disc case.  The manual is just a pdf on the disc, which is the exact same as the download but you get the privilege of paying $10 more for it.

I've paid far more than $10 for books before so I'm ok with it.  :)

You should definitely pick it up, though.  >:D  I still can't believe you haven't already!
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Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
I dabbled in War Plan Orange but it was like a decade ago and have no memory of it whatsoever :/

Thanks for the above on RuS...for 10.00 how can I go wrong?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
War Plan Orange is a little less complex than either version of War In The Pacific, but it's still just as time consuming.  :smitten:

However, it's necessarily missing any improvements introduced in the Admiral's Edition (and subsequent patching) for WitP.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 26, 2014, 01:26:17 PM
Couldn't resist. Picked-up Case Blue. The way I play it'll probably be more like Case Black and Blue.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
Does it say that on the box?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Tuna on November 26, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
Rise of Flight looks like they're having a big sale until Dec 2nd
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 26, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
War Plan Orange is a little less complex than either version of War In The Pacific, but it's still just as time consuming.  :smitten:

However, it's necessarily missing any improvements introduced in the Admiral's Edition (and subsequent patching) for WitP.

Thanks for info....even though cheap, going to stay away from it for now....
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 26, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on November 26, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

Ok thanks....some reason I had thought it was less complex and time consuming...but sounds like I was wrong...appreciate the info.

IIRC, Uncommon Valor would be a better 'lite' version of WITP.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 26, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 26, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on November 26, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

Ok thanks....some reason I had thought it was less complex and time consuming...but sounds like I was wrong...appreciate the info.

IIRC, Uncommon Valor would be a better 'lite' version of WITP.

I highly recommend UV for beginners. It has all the tactical elements of WITP without bogging the player down  with more strategic concerns. Downside is the graphics resolution.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 27, 2014, 02:42:32 AM
Quote from: jomni on November 26, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 26, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on November 26, 2014, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:55:56 AM
Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

Ok thanks....some reason I had thought it was less complex and time consuming...but sounds like I was wrong...appreciate the info.

IIRC, Uncommon Valor would be a better 'lite' version of WITP.

I highly recommend UV for beginners. It has all the tactical elements of WITP without bogging the player down  with more strategic concerns. Downside is the graphics resolution.
+1
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 27, 2014, 05:32:24 AM
Thanks for the info on uv.....didn't see it in their sales flyer, but I looked in the store and it is also on sale for $9...will have to consider it.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Nefaro on November 27, 2014, 08:38:44 AM
My old disk copy of UV ran sluggishly even on modern computers.  Clicking the UI buttons, moving the map, etc was a bit frustrating but doable.  WitP doesn't have quite the same delayed UI response that it does.

Dunno if that's an issue with the digital version or not.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 27, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
How does Uncommon Valor compare to Carriers at War?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 27, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: bbmike on November 27, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
How does Uncommon Valor compare to Carriers at War?

More detailed.  It has ground combat and logistics.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 27, 2014, 08:53:25 AM
Quote from: bbmike on November 27, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
How does Uncommon Valor compare to Carriers at War?
No comparison. Two totally different games and styles. UV is WitP in a smaller scale with smaller scenarios.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 27, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
Uncommon Valor seems to be unbearably laggy for me under Windows 8.1. If I try to run it in windowed mode it just freezes up on me.  :(
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 27, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
UV is an older game, at least 10 years or more so Win8 may not play nice with it. Are there any Win 95/98/xp compatibility options you have tried yet?
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: TacticalWargames on November 27, 2014, 08:12:21 PM
Flashpoint Campaigns is the game I'd recommend to anyone as I'd know I hadn't gone and wasted the gamers money as they will love it. I daren't recommend any others on there as I know they are marmite type games..people love em or hate em..but FCRS gets all love.


I too was thinking about COH Storm of Steel..but I know deep down I'd probably hardly play it as COH barely gets touched. However more units might raise the bar abit more with the game.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: ArizonaTank on November 27, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2014, 07:08:20 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 26, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.
Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

I toyed with buying this at Historicon.  But no AI, and no multi-player.  I decided to go with a copy of the WiF boardgame (got very lucky and found an unpunched copy of the Final Edition on Amazon of all places for $100) and the vassal module. 
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 28, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 27, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
UV is an older game, at least 10 years or more so Win8 may not play nice with it. Are there any Win 95/98/xp compatibility options you have tried yet?

I tried compatibility modes but they didn't work either. I finally tried windowed mode (-w switch) and it works better but the window it's in is too small for me play it comfortably.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: jomni on November 28, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 28, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 27, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
UV is an older game, at least 10 years or more so Win8 may not play nice with it. Are there any Win 95/98/xp compatibility options you have tried yet?

I tried compatibility modes but they didn't work either. I finally tried windowed mode (-w switch) and it works better but the window it's in is too small for me play it comfortably.

I'm sorry for recommending it then. I played this in Win 7 but not yet on my Win 8 machine.  :'(
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on November 28, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: jomni on November 28, 2014, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: bbmike on November 28, 2014, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 27, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
UV is an older game, at least 10 years or more so Win8 may not play nice with it. Are there any Win 95/98/xp compatibility options you have tried yet?

I tried compatibility modes but they didn't work either. I finally tried windowed mode (-w switch) and it works better but the window it's in is too small for me play it comfortably.


I'm sorry for recommending it then. I played this in Win 7 but not yet on my Win 8 machine.  :'(

Oh, no, don't be sorry! It does work and I will be able to play it at some point. I have a couple of older laptops around here somewhere.  :)
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 28, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
Or if you have an extra monitor and cable you can set up a second screen with lower resolution to make the game window appear bigger and then fling the window onto it and play.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: gameleaper on November 30, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
I use a virtual PC for all my older games, and just isolate it so it dosnt connect to the net, you have setting in each virtual PC to disable the network adapter , you can use vware player , vitual box and so on , I use them to play away team one of the best star trek games I ever played
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on January 11, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Just a reminder that today is the last day of the sale.....probably the first year in a long time that I didn't pick up a single Matrix sale item....
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: -budd- on January 11, 2015, 11:49:59 AM
I bought one title, had a coupon for storms of steel so picked that up to complete my conflict of heroes collection. The least i've bought in a very long time.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Martok on January 11, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on January 11, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Just a reminder that today is the last day of the sale.....probably the first year in a long time that I didn't pick up a single Matrix sale item....
Same here.  At the moment, I own every Matrix/Slitherine title I want to play and/or am likely to play at any point in the foreseeable future. 

Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: WallysWorld on January 11, 2015, 03:35:39 PM
Yep, I didn't buy anything either as the only game I'm interested in right now is Hannibal: Terror of Rome and it wasn't on sale.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 11, 2015, 04:40:20 PM
Nothing for me either. Like the rest of you, anything I wanted, I've got.

The only thing I bought - as a Christmas present, was WitW...nothing from the sale.

The last thing I bought from Matrix (through Steam) was Flashpoint Campaigns and that was a re-buy as opposed to a new purchase. I can't remember the last one before that.

I'm not even sure there's anything on the horizon...apart from Brother Against Brother - which never seems to be any closer to release (though they are often keeping their cards close to their chest), nothing in Coming Soon peaks my interest
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Tuna on January 11, 2015, 04:51:32 PM
I grabbed Civil War 2.. was looking at that and Flashpoint, but since I enjoyed ACW 1, I figured couldn't go wrong to get the upgrade.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: republic on January 11, 2015, 04:59:25 PM
I'm really considering pulling the trigger on Flash Point Campaigns Red Storm....though I promised myself no new games for a long while.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Wolfe1759 on January 11, 2015, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 11, 2015, 04:40:20 PM
Nothing for me either. Like the rest of you, anything I wanted, I've got.

The only thing I bought - as a Christmas present, was WitW...nothing from the sale.

Same here.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: mirth on January 11, 2015, 05:07:15 PM
I picked up Tiller's Napoleonic game for nostalgia more than anything else.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: ArizonaTank on January 11, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
I told myself there was nothing on sale that I wanted.  But then based on a friends recommendation I picked up Decisive Campaigns Blitz and Case Blue.  Glad I did.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bobarossa on January 11, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
I didn't buy anything either although my brother bought me Flashpoint Campaigns for Christmas. 
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bbmike on January 11, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
Uncommon Valor and World in Flames for me.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: FlickJax on January 12, 2015, 04:11:17 AM
didnt buy any :( had to buy new gfx card instead
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Bison on January 12, 2015, 09:52:09 AM
No new Matrix games for me either, but I did purchase a few last year.  So they still got my fistful of cash just more of it. 
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: Mad Russian on January 12, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 11, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
I didn't buy anything either although my brother bought me Flashpoint Campaigns for Christmas.

Have you played it yet?

If so, what do you think of it?

Good Hunting.

MR
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: bobarossa on January 13, 2015, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: Mad Russian on January 12, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 11, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
I didn't buy anything either although my brother bought me Flashpoint Campaigns for Christmas.

Have you played it yet?

If so, what do you think of it?

Good Hunting.

MR
Sorry, not yet.  I started the tutorial and realized this was a game I where I really needed to read the manual to play.  Over half way through but got sidelined by a Civ4 craving.  Will get back to it shortly.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: airboy on January 13, 2015, 06:01:01 PM
I got Alea Jacta Est and Hannibal: Carthage and Rome.  Maybe at some point I'll have enough time to play them.
Title: Re: Matrix Holiday Sale
Post by: steve58 on January 13, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Quote from: Bison on January 12, 2015, 09:52:09 AM
No new Matrix games for me either, but I did purchase a few last year.  So they still got my fistful of cash just more of it.

...same for me, but maybe less than a fistful :coolsmiley: