Matrix Holiday Sale

[jomni]

Thinking of COH Storm of Steel - not sure though as forum looks rather dead

The CoH game was one that didn't transition well into a computer game. The main reason for that was the 3D implemented and rules change - both of which made the boardgame. The graphics and counters on the boardgame are top notch...something was lost in the transition to computer.

I believe the developer changed the game to have a 2D option with the chits looking as the boardgame, but the game still had the 3D implementation of the LoS iirc.

It didn't hit the sweet spot for me I hoped it had. Not a bad game, especially with the developer eventually adding the board game feel, looks and rules.

To be fair, boardgames seldom do translate well. Something (for me) to do with the physical feel and setup of everything

Didn't do it for me as well.  My reasoning is that it's so gamy that real-world tactics don't work well.

[Grim.Reaper]

Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.

Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

[Tuna]

I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?

[smittyohio]

Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.

Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

Ditto.   At least with other games I bought and haven't played much, I can put the blame on myself.   I talked myself into this one figuring I'd have the year or 2 to play around before the AI was out.  It's been too broken for all but the most diehard WIF fanboy to play up to this point.   The forum activity (or lack of) seems to bear that out too.  At the rate things are going, we might be on Windows 16 and have to run the game in a virtual machine.

[JudgeDredd]

I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?

lol.

Buying a known broken game = bad
Re-buying a known broken game = proper mental.

Of course I'm not going to buy it again. I may well do when it's working, fixed, has multi play and AI - possibly.

I would love those books though. I'd likely pay £50 just for them - but of course because Matrix/Slitherine screwed the release up and shafted everyone, they couldn't come up with any "packages" to sell. So you're stuck buying the game for £60 broken and as a DD or buying the game for £60 broken and as a physical copy which will give you the printed manuals...another mental aspect of that game's release.

I don't want to be too "down" on Matrix. They've gave me a huge amount of gaming pleasure in the past - but the release of that game is not just unjustified, it's borderline criminal I would've thought.

I'll learn it one day though...I promise myself

[JudgeDredd]

I'm kind of astonished that people are 'thinking' of buying a broken game!  .. I mean when it first came out, I can understand all those people being excited about it and scooping it up. But all I saw for posts afterwards was total disappointment on the part of the purchasers, because of all the problems with it! Now I see new potential buyers, seems crazy!!!  Wej are a sad crew!

Of course Judge is thinking of buying again!  ::)

How low is it on sale for anyways?

Until the 11th Jan

[Grim.Reaper]

Nothing of any great interest for me that I don't already own.....looks like I should have waited until this year for world in flames, although not sure even worth the sale price.

Mate - it's still broke. Apparently switching some things off helps, but IIRC the things to switch off are pretty core to the game...i.e. part of the fun - supply being one. From what I gather (and I could be wrong) supply still isn't working.

I figured...maybe one day it will realize it's potential but as I said in the past, I have already written it off as my my worst personal mistaken in buying a game.

Ditto.   At least with other games I bought and haven't played much, I can put the blame on myself.   I talked myself into this one figuring I'd have the year or 2 to play around before the AI was out.   At the rate things are going, we might be on Windows 16 and have to run the game in a virtual machine.

That was my original thinking as well....I always heard how great a board game it was, so I thought I would play it and try and learn the system solitaire before the AI came out...at worst, I thought that was a year or two away.  If I am not mistaken at release, Matrix released a message that said something like ALL issues would be resolved in two weeks, which obviously later on they had to revise that statement as we still sit here in fix mode.  To be honest, I have zero hope that an AI will ever be developed at this point, just can't imagine they got the kind of sales they needed to really keep this alive long term.  Even if it does get implemented, I can only imagine we are years away from ever seeing it and by then the game likely will need an overhaul because its technology/development platform will be outdated.

The interesting part about this monster war game is I am not sure if I have ever seen anyone report they completed a full large campaign in this game, even during the beta testing.  Therefore, I can't imagine that there are not issues lurking in the later parts of the game nobody has discovered yet....really demotivates me into spending a lot of time with the game, keeping in the back of my mind that I likely will see a failure at some point.  I will need to see a successful campaign completed before I would even consider putting time into it.

One good thing that came out of this for me is that it helped me reduce the amount of new games I buy on impulse (not completely cured yet, but certainly a little more selective than a year ago) :)

[Grim.Reaper]

Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

[MengJiao]

Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

[Grim.Reaper]

Now back to the purpose of the thread:)

Just curious, did anyone ever pickup the naval game War Plan Orange?  If I am not mistaken, it was a lighter version of WITP....never could wrap my head around WITP, so wondering if possible with this game...pretty reasonable price at $9.

It's not lighter, it just simulates the 1930s.  I don't remember it as being much fun, but then my idea of fun is WITPAE PBEM forever.

Ok thanks....some reason I had thought it was less complex and time consuming...but sounds like I was wrong...appreciate the info.

[Rayfer]

Crap! I had thought Piercing Fortress Europa had been out long enough to make the sale but it didn't. Still might get SOW's Pipe Creek and Brandy Station for $4.99 each.

[bbmike]

There is no benefit to the physical copy besides a disc and disc case.  The manual is just a pdf on the disc, which is the exact same as the download but you get the privilege of paying $10 more for it.

I've paid far more than $10 for books before so I'm ok with it.  :)

You should definitely pick it up, though.  >:D  I still can't believe you haven't already!
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[Gusington]

I dabbled in War Plan Orange but it was like a decade ago and have no memory of it whatsoever :/

Thanks for the above on RuS...for 10.00 how can I go wrong?

[JasonPratt]

War Plan Orange is a little less complex than either version of War In The Pacific, but it's still just as time consuming. 

However, it's necessarily missing any improvements introduced in the Admiral's Edition (and subsequent patching) for WitP.

[Sir Slash]

Couldn't resist. Picked-up Case Blue. The way I play it'll probably be more like Case Black and Blue.