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Title: Fear the walking dead
Post by: TacticalWargames on September 22, 2015, 09:07:19 AM
Been watching this one as I love The Walking dead. Been a pretty slow start however I'm sure it will build up to a massive climax. I can see the series getting better and better and it's a good change to follow new characters.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on September 22, 2015, 06:27:13 PM
Been watching it and enjoying it. But i don't understand how, after a certain point in time, it won't play out exactly like The Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on September 22, 2015, 08:10:12 PM
There are tons of different storylines they can explore, Gus. Changing dynamics such as big cities, the desert, the ocean, etc.... What happens to all the gangs in Cali? Do they fill the vacumn left by the collapse of society? Do they continue to war against each other? Do they become slavers? The military refugee camps....well, those are overrun in every apocalyptic scenerio I've ever read. Do some of the big cities get nuked? Speaking of the big cities, you've got more survivors but also more undead. I dunno, I see a LOT of directions the writers can go. And I'm nowhere near my personal saturation point for zombie goodness  8)
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on September 22, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
Me neither. I'm also a season behind in The Walking Dead since I started watching it on Netflix...so everyone up to date is going into Season 6, I am going into Season 5 :(

I see what you're saying above but...BUT...I get the feeling the main characters are fleeing LA. If they somehow stay in the city (against all logic) my fear of it being just like the original series will be unfounded I suppose. I don't see the ocean being a setting...much more likely the desert a la Wasteland and Fallout games...the desert is tradition for this genre, really. I wonder how much gaming has influenced the writers...

Anyway...there are no books that FTWD is based on, correct? Unlike the original? So if that's the case I suppose they can do whatever the hell they want with the story.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: WallysWorld on September 22, 2015, 11:07:09 PM
I'm trying to stay interested in the show, but it feels like watching a soap opera with a few zombies added for suspense. I really don't care for any of the main characters.

My friend who is also a big TWD fan thinks the same way. But we'll both continue to the end of season one at least.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: OJsDad on September 24, 2015, 06:48:08 AM
FTWD could prove interesting to see how things have developed on the opposite side of the country.  Will it not fall as completely apart as on the East coast, or worse.  (yes, I'm sure it will be as bad or worse)
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on September 28, 2015, 09:45:22 AM
I thought episode 5 was strong. Some solid character development as well as a new face who seems....interesting. Survival mode is kicking in and the season finale looms as civilization is unravelling ever faster. I've not been disappointed.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 28, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
The first step in preparing for zombies is to have fat friends.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Nefaro on September 28, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 28, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
The first step in preparing for zombies is to have fat friends.


;)




One of the best zombie movies evah.  O0
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on September 28, 2015, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 28, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
The first step in preparing for zombies is to have fat friends.

That's a real rarity in the gaming world :P
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on September 29, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
I am not disappointed either. Also started season 5 of The Walking Dead on Netflix so I can be caught up in time for the season 6 debut and enjoy it with you bastards.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on September 29, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 29, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
I am not disappointed either. Also started season 5 of The Walking Dead on Netflix so I can be caught up in time for the season 6 debut and enjoy it with you bastards.

Break the popcorn out, Gus. Zombie goodness abounds!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on September 29, 2015, 10:11:08 PM
Does Kim Dickens still have her face?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on September 29, 2015, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 29, 2015, 10:11:08 PM
Does Kim Dickens still have her face?

She does indeed. Odd, I'm not even a zombie and I'd like to ea......wait, this is a public thread....nevermind.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on September 29, 2015, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on September 29, 2015, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 29, 2015, 10:11:08 PM
Does Kim Dickens still have her face?

She does indeed. Odd, I'm not even a zombie and I'd like to ea......wait, this is a public thread....nevermind.

I really need to catch up on this show
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on September 30, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
Watching both simultaneously it is easy to say that the new one is not as good as the original, but I say to give it time and the quality can definitely equal out.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 30, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
the original dropped you right into the shit.  the new one explains how the shit got so shitty.  I can accept the difference and enjoy it.  hopefully there will be no farm season.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 01, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
The farm season produced multiple hot chicks, though.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: TacticalWargames on October 02, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
Looks like it's all going to go mental in Ep six!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 02, 2015, 08:45:11 PM
^Yep. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 03, 2015, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 30, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
Watching both simultaneously it is easy to say that the new one is not as good as the original, but I say to give it time and the quality can definitely equal out.

I'm encouraged by the quality of the cast, especially Kim Dickens's character, her addict son and the barber. Plus episode 5 dumped a potentially intriguing player on us, a smooth operator with a pitchman's voice. Some good parts to work with here.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
^The slick saleman reminded me of a few Stephen King characters...actually most Stephen King characters.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
^The slick saleman reminded me of a few Stephen King characters...actually most Stephen King characters.

Ohhhhhh, nice pickup there, Gus. He sounds like the guy who does the Allstate commercials.

The wife hadn't seen the series yet, so I rewatched all five episodes with her. Ready for the season finale tonight, then on to The Walking Dead. This is heaven for lovers of dystopian fiction, like myself.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 06:03:29 PM
^I hear ya. I am six episodes in to Season 5 of the original series on Netflix and am hell bent on watching the whole season in time for next week's season 6 debut. HELL BENT!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2015, 06:19:20 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 06:03:29 PM
^I hear ya. I am six episodes in to Season 5 of the original series on Netflix and am hell bent on watching the whole season in time for next week's season 6 debut. HELL BENT!

Nothing can stop you, my man! You have an agenda....move outta the way, world!!!   O0
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
^The slick saleman reminded me of a few Stephen King characters...actually most Stephen King characters.

Randall Flagg?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
^I think so...read The Stand a long time ago.

Tonight's FTWD opening sequence was quite epic. And shit just hit the fan really hard for the National Guard. Oh crap...
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:24:15 PM
The Closer dude? He's definitely in the Randall Flagg mold. Stephen King would be pleased.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
"No one's covered for that". Brilliant.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:27:02 PM
Oh my...everything is going downhill really quickly. If every episode was this intense there would never be any doubting FTWD.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:30:17 PM
HOLY FRIJOLES
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
I can't stand all the melodrama bullshit. When the Zombie Apocalypse hits, I won't be putting up with a bunch of whiny bitches asking for their mommas.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
This episode is genuinely scary though.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
I'm trying to get through it. It  would be a lot better if Kim Dickens were in every scene.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
It would further bettered if the female doctor got nekkid.

OMG are you seeing this?? Despite the melodrama this episode blows all previous out of the water.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2015, 08:47:12 PM
I was hoping for a strong finish. "Cobalt" gave me great expectations for the finale. Sweet zombie goodness!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:48:41 PM
^I am really digging this finale. However I prefer watching on Netflix without all the terrible zombie-themed food commercials.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2015, 08:51:26 PM
I'm actually watching it in the morning on Amazon after it drops. Have to wait the extra day but no immersion-breaking commercials. Listening to you makes me want to stay up and wait for it.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
Should I bother going back to watch the earlier episodes? I've got most of the backstory already and I don't need more melodrama bullshit.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:54:14 PM
There are a ton of big LA city shots that are just epic...it's like they saved all of them for this finale.

It will be worth it to wait for the morning...the commercials are terrible. Makes me miss Netflix.

Mirth if you don't like the melodrama I think you're safe not going back. This episode is far and away the big winner.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 08:58:21 PM
All that said, Halo 5 is incredible looking.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 04, 2015, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 04, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
Should I bother going back to watch the earlier episodes? I've got most of the backstory already and I don't need more melodrama bullshit.

I agree with Gus except to say I thought episode 5 was a good buildup to the finale.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Mirth did you see #5?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 09:01:34 PM
Why is popping zombie Kimberly a big moral dilemma?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 09:02:18 PM
I'm watching Cobalt right now. It's the only one I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 04, 2015, 09:04:55 PM
Finale is the big payoff for staying with it. Trust me.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2015, 09:12:38 PM
Will do. Cobalt has been pretty good. Enough to keep me watching.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 07:52:23 AM
You'll really like the finale then. I will rewatch it if I have the time, and I never do that with tv shows.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 05, 2015, 09:31:46 AM
Outstanding! A worthy companion to TWD.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: WallysWorld on October 05, 2015, 10:19:59 AM
The finale was okay at best. That's about it. The entire first season was meh.

I'll probably watch season 2, but barely ambitious to do so.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
Disagree...loved the finale - it was as disturbing and creepy as I thought it would be. The season took time to get cranking but it's because it started out in the real, normal world. What I would like more of is background...where did this outbreak originate?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 05, 2015, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
Disagree...loved the finale - it was as disturbing and creepy as I thought it would be. The season took time to get cranking but it's because it started out in the real, normal world. What I would like more of is background...where did this outbreak originate?

Dittos across the board. I like the different dynamics of FTWD while retaining my love of TWD at the same time. I'm in no way disappointed.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: WallysWorld on October 05, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
I think the show should have been more about how the government dealt or failed to deal with the crisis and less than a soap opera about a dysfunctional family with some zombies thrown in for suspense. None of the major characters have any appealing traits for me at least.

Like I wrote before, I'll watch season 2, but not with same gusto that I do with TWD.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Steelgrave on October 05, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: WallysWorld on October 05, 2015, 12:30:35 PM
I think the show should have been more about how the government dealt or failed to deal with the crisis and less than a soap opera about a dysfunctional family with some zombies thrown in for suspense. None of the major characters have any appealing traits for me at least.

Like I wrote before, I'll watch season 2, but not with same gusto that I do with TWD.

Honestly, that sounds boring to me....more like a documentary than a drama. But hey, we're allowed to disagree and that's why there is so much variety available.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 06:22:25 PM
One thing I will admit not liking is how the military are mostly incompetent jerkoffs.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
^ +1 to that. It's an all too common premise for any kind of apocalyptic show/movie. And it's not just they are incompetent, but outright stupid. And most of the time there's some underlying evil intent. So they're evil and dumb. Not a great premise.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: WallysWorld on October 05, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
Posters on IMDB are talking about how trained National Guard soldiers who presumably have families can go from protecting US citizens to thieving rapists in the span of two weeks. That wasn't a strong point of the show's writing.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 05, 2015, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
...where did this outbreak originate?

my money is in Mirths pants.


^^^ that was a poorly formed sentence.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 06, 2015, 07:58:30 AM
Hahaha!!

Yeah so anyway not a fan of the portrayal of the military, but I like a lot of other features of the show.

Trying feverishly to finish season 5 of TWD by Sunday!!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2015, 08:00:01 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 05, 2015, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 05, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
...where did this outbreak originate?

my money is in Mirths pants.

You do put your money where your mouth is.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 06, 2015, 08:08:15 AM
at some point everyone needs a toothpick.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2015, 08:22:32 AM
That explains your new woman.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 06, 2015, 01:15:17 PM
The last 8 posts may also explain 'where did this outbreak originate.'
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
It doesn't sound like we're likely to find out anytime soon

http://www.bustle.com/articles/107067-how-did-the-zombie-virus-start-on-fear-the-walking-dead-the-pilot-may-have-answered
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 06, 2015, 05:20:22 PM
I'll say this - there are very, very few tv shows/movies that get military behavior right.  Largely because the people that make tv shows/movies have never been in the military and don't know anyone remotely associated with the military, and therefore they see "THE MILITARY"™ as some monolithic machine rather than a collection of human beings.

For those folks that cared enough to actually get it right - Blackhawk Down, We Were Soldiers - they did it extremely well.  But the Walking Dead franchise has been dicked up on the military forever - remember the guy that 'stole' his M60 tank?  And was firing it from the driver's hatch?  Yeah.  I'm not trusting them to accurately portray units full of guys I used to know (I was in the CAARNG for a while...)
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 06, 2015, 08:47:19 PM
I am up to episode 10 of season 5. Tyrese is my favorite character.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Pinetree on October 06, 2015, 11:23:09 PM
I really enjoyed the first season, the feeling of dread from the first episode as they went around living their lives and then everything turning to custard was pretty well done. Travis annoys me a bit, but as he's a Maori (in RL and in the show), I wonder if they'll explore that more and we'll see him find his warrior spirit and get it on with taiaha and mere. That would be awesome..

[Spoiler below]






After watching the final scene, I wonder if they'll take to water? That would be a very different spin on things.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 07, 2015, 08:16:08 AM
Maori...my buddies and I were trying to figure out Travis' ethnicity.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: TacticalWargames on October 07, 2015, 08:48:53 AM
Enjoyed the last episode..we always know the intense action is coming eventually.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Centurion40 on October 08, 2015, 07:56:37 AM
Quote from: Pinetree on October 06, 2015, 11:23:09 PM
I really enjoyed the first season, the feeling of dread from the first episode as they went around living their lives and then everything turning to custard was pretty well done. Travis annoys me a bit, but as he's a Maori (in RL and in the show), I wonder if they'll explore that more and we'll see him find his warrior spirit and get it on with taiaha and mere. That would be awesome..

[Spoiler below]






After watching the final scene, I wonder if they'll take to water? That would be a very different spin on things.

Well he did beat the crap out of that soldier.


Maybe they'll take Abigail to Catalina?

Boats 'n Hoes!!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
for those that have read World War Z, you know the water is a bad idea.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Centurion40 on October 08, 2015, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
for those that have read World War Z, you know the water is a bad idea.

Not if you stay in the boat!

But will they follow that aspect of WWZ?

Will there being bottom-walking zombies?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 08:46:56 AM
one can only hope.   :D
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 08, 2015, 10:01:36 AM
5 episodes left to be caught up for Sunday. This is emotionally draining.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 10:11:21 AM
just wait until Glenn and Maggie die.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Centurion40 on October 08, 2015, 11:09:57 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 10:11:21 AM
just wait until Glenn and Maggie die.

Glenn, ok.  But Maggie??!!  NOOOOOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 08, 2015, 01:16:21 PM
They would never kill off dat ass.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Centurion40 on October 08, 2015, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 08, 2015, 01:16:21 PM
They would never kill off dat ass.

Jinx!  >:(
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 08, 2015, 06:16:54 PM
NEVER! I mean look at it...glorious.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Staggerwing on October 08, 2015, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on October 08, 2015, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
for those that have read World War Z, you know the water is a bad idea.

Not if you stay in the boat!

But will they follow that aspect of WWZ?

Will there being bottom-walking zombies?

One of the times I tried playing DayZ I got caught near the docks by a small hoard so I jumped into the water and started swimming. To my surprise the hoard walked into the water and down the underwater embankment until they were directly below me, a ways down. As I swam across the harbor the hoard stayed directly below me, matching every change in direction. They could not swim up to me but I could not swim back to shore either as they paced me. It was a Mexican standoff until I logged off.

Screenshot, looking down from the surface:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.akamai.steamusercontent.com%2Fugc%2F395546970939834492%2FFEB61D2C2F10E1F5AA242855D43D72E94558D1D4%2F&hash=7e0e3c3600aeaaff2e9e5ab853dd2d58a7592264)
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 09, 2015, 10:16:41 PM
One episode left from last season! Then I can watch the season 6 premier with all you on Sunday :) I've already told The Wife to clear the room that night.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 10, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
but will she listen.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 10, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Well it's going to be on the tv. The Wife can't make it past a few seconds of the show. Way too much for her. Told her I would watch the last season 5 episode tonight in my man cave after everyone goes to bed. Is there anything better than an episode of TWD in October around midnight?
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 10, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
watching TWD and getting a blowjob while eating pizza and drinking beer.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Staggerwing on October 10, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that and go on with my life, such as it is.
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Pinetree on October 10, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
Just make sure the pizza and beer aren't close by if she decides to spit....
Title: Re: Fear the walking dead
Post by: Gusington on October 10, 2015, 09:22:03 PM
And done. Ready for tomorrow. That was one hell of a final episode for season 5.