Announcement here (http://www.iceberg-games.com/index.php?dispatch=news.view&news_id=159).
Steam page here (http://store.steampowered.com/app/427570/).
I could wish it wasn't yet another real-time game, but we'll see how it looks otherwise.
God, we are getting flooded with space 4x games.
^ Yeah true just like survival games on steam, just hope at least one of these space games though turn out to be good.
That trailer is awful, she sounds like she should be selling fungal cream instead of hyping a game.
How many times have we been burned by Iceberg again?
What have some of their clunkers been? I recall a couple good titles from them, but that may have been 10 years ago...
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 03, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
What have some of their clunkers been? I recall a couple good titles from them, but that may have been 10 years ago...
StarDrive, Lords of the Black Sun, Gemini Wars, Sol Exodus, Horizon, etc.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 03, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
What have some of their clunkers been? I recall a couple good titles from them, but that may have been 10 years ago...
StarDrive, Lords of the Black Sun, Gemini Wars, Sol Exodus, Horizon, etc.
Yeah, about that...
This exchange in 4x dedicated subreddit seems interesting:
https://www.reddit.com/r/4Xgaming/comments/4429dh/dawn_of_andromeda_announced_yet_another_space_4x/czn50gm
Quote from: Beowulf on February 04, 2016, 04:00:02 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 03, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
What have some of their clunkers been? I recall a couple good titles from them, but that may have been 10 years ago...
StarDrive, Lords of the Black Sun, Gemini Wars, Sol Exodus, Horizon, etc.
Yeah, about that...
This exchange in 4x dedicated subreddit seems interesting:
https://www.reddit.com/r/4Xgaming/comments/4429dh/dawn_of_andromeda_announced_yet_another_space_4x/czn50gm
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gtcbsa.org%2Fimages%2FItsPopcornTimeStarburst.jpg&hash=9141983ebf9c7836e926c40c6ca0bb17bb21aadb)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
StarDrive, Lords of the Black Sun, Gemini Wars, Sol Exodus, Horizon, etc.
Stardrive was unfinished, Lords of the black sun is bad and unfinished, Geminis Wars had some nice ideas (The story and the mood was cool) but was a cheap game and Sol Exodus i don't know. However, i've had lots of fun with Horizon which is an excellent and solid indie game and one of my fav 4x in the last few years.
Now, from what i have read here and on the page from Iceberg, i think it's possible that this new game is being done by the same guys (
Arkavi Studios) who made
Lords of the black sun with a new company name. Caution is advised but i'll still keep an eye on it. They may want to have a brand new fame.
I thought about you when I was typing that list, and hesitated adding horizon because I know you like it, but I found it boring, bland and silly. Just my opinion though, I realize it's subjective,
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 04, 2016, 06:16:13 AM
I thought about you when I was typing that list, and hesitated adding horizon because I know you like it, but I found it boring, bland and silly. Just my opinion though, I realize it's subjective,
I don't have a problem if you don't like the game but think the game is in a different category than the others who were left half abandonned.
^That is a fair assessment.
Thanks for the replies, guys. That is a rather damaging list...
First thought: "Hmmm...new 4X game, might be interesting, let's see what this is about."
Next thought: "Uhm, Iceberg huh? Almost guarantees it'll be half finished and end up abandoned, probably want to be cuatious here..."
Final thought: "Oh, it's the same guy that did Lords of the Black Sun? Well, that's a complete non-starter. This is Stardrive/Stardrive II all over again."
It's a shame, but Iceberg has almost wrecked the genre.
In fairness to Iceberg, they do occasionally pick a winner (Endless Space/Endless Legend)
Quote from: tgb on February 05, 2016, 05:37:05 AM
In fairness to Iceberg, they do occasionally pick a winner (Endless Space/Endless Legend)
Armada 2526 and Oriental Empires are also winners.
Imho, they just publish as much as they can and invest in marketing.
Quote from: Anguille on February 05, 2016, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: tgb on February 05, 2016, 05:37:05 AM
In fairness to Iceberg, they do occasionally pick a winner (Endless Space/Endless Legend)
Armada 2526 and Oriental Empires are also winners.
Imho, they just publish as much as they can and invest in marketing.
Might be a little early to call oriental empire a winner since hasn't been released:)
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 05, 2016, 06:55:07 AM
Quote from: Anguille on February 05, 2016, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: tgb on February 05, 2016, 05:37:05 AM
In fairness to Iceberg, they do occasionally pick a winner (Endless Space/Endless Legend)
Armada 2526 and Oriental Empires are also winners.
Imho, they just publish as much as they can and invest in marketing.
Might be a little early to call oriental empire a winner since hasn't been released:)
Maybe ;)
I have to say that i have no doubts that it's going to be winner, based on the track record from Bob T. Smith and how i perceive him as extremely Professional.
Quote from: Beowulf on February 04, 2016, 04:00:02 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 03, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
What have some of their clunkers been? I recall a couple good titles from them, but that may have been 10 years ago...
StarDrive, Lords of the Black Sun, Gemini Wars, Sol Exodus, Horizon, etc.
Yeah, about that...
This exchange in 4x dedicated subreddit seems interesting:
https://www.reddit.com/r/4Xgaming/comments/4429dh/dawn_of_andromeda_announced_yet_another_space_4x/czn50gm
Yeah, I realized after I'd put up the thread that the name Mike Domingus (or whatever it is) looked/sounded familiar to me. It took me only a few seconds to remember why. :-\
I'll still try to keep an open mind with this one, but am now extremely skeptical.
Quote from: Anguille on February 05, 2016, 07:02:59 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 05, 2016, 06:55:07 AM
Quote from: Anguille on February 05, 2016, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: tgb on February 05, 2016, 05:37:05 AM
In fairness to Iceberg, they do occasionally pick a winner (Endless Space/Endless Legend)
Armada 2526 and Oriental Empires are also winners.
Imho, they just publish as much as they can and invest in marketing.
Might be a little early to call oriental empire a winner since hasn't been released:)
Maybe ;)
I have to say that i have no doubts that it's going to be winner, based on the track record from Bob T. Smith and how i perceive him as extremely Professional.
Agreed. While
Armada 2526 wasn't a perfect game and isn't for everyone, it did benefit from a solid design, decent AI, and a developer who's good at avoiding "feature creep".
Give that, combined with Smith's experience working on the Total War franchise, I'm confident
Oriental Empires will turn out well.
Some new info:
Like for Oriental Empires, Iceberg has decided to change it's approach. I think it's better like this.
QuoteDevelopment studio Grey Wolf Entertainment and publisher Iceberg Interactive have reassessed their development strategy and, after much analysis, have chosen to continue the Dawn of Andromeda development process in a controlled closed beta program, instead of the initially planned Steam Early Access process.
The closed beta program will enable a fixed-sized and fully controllable environment, where feedback is more manageable and easier to digest for the relatively small indie team. The beta program will consist of several different phases/waves, introducing a fixed number of new players to the beta program at different development points. Once the closed beta program for Dawn of Andromeda is complete, the title will be launched as a solid and finished product on Steam.
More information about the closed Beta program and application process will be revealed later this month.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/427570/announcements/detail/604980990738365064 (http://steamcommunity.com/games/427570/announcements/detail/604980990738365064)
Quote from: Anguille on April 08, 2016, 09:03:26 AM
I think it's better like this.
I disagree.
Don't get me wrong, I think I understand why Iceberg is doing this, and I don't blame them: Developers & publishers have woken up to the realization that Early Access isn't necessarily appropriate for every new game. And as a matter of practicality, I suspect it's a lot easier for Iceberg to simply yank all their upcoming releases from EA, as opposed to some titles and not others.
That being said... I think that
Dawn of Andromeda should've remained in Early Access, as that would've helped shine as bright a light on it as possible. Given developer Mike Domingus' prior history (the poorly-received
Lords of the Black Sun, and the general impression that he Steve-Miller'ed his way out of that quagmire), the more transparency with this new game, the better.
Technically, Martok, it was Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue who took the money and ran. Steve Miller was just telling their story...
:)
Quote from: Martok on April 17, 2016, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Anguille on April 08, 2016, 09:03:26 AM
I think it's better like this.
I disagree.
Don't get me wrong, I think I understand why Iceberg is doing this, and I don't blame them: Developers & publishers have woken up to the realization that Early Access isn't necessarily appropriate for every new game. And as a matter of practicality, I suspect it's a lot easier for Iceberg to simply yank all their upcoming releases from EA, as opposed to some titles and not others.
That being said... I think that Dawn of Andromeda should've remained in Early Access, as that would've helped shine as bright a light on it as possible. Given developer Mike Domingus' prior history (the poorly-received Lords of the Black Sun, and the general impression that he Steve-Miller'ed his way out of that quagmire), the more transparency with this new game, the better.
Maybe. I don't have a strong opinion about it...will you try to be part of the beta?
Hi all,
The reason for not doing EA on Dawn of Andromeda is quite similar to the one for Oriental Empires. After many discussions, we concluded that the team is simply too small to deal with Early Access. They want to focus on developing the game and making it bug-free, instead of being forced to divert time to post updates and roadmaps and manage a large steam community. We are very much devoted to make this a great game that has its own inque place between all the 4X games.
I would also like to point out that Mike learned a lot from his first project and has chosen a much better set of tools to complete Dawn of Andromeda.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on April 18, 2016, 01:17:13 AM
Technically, Martok, it was Billy Joe and Bobbie Sue who took the money and ran. Steve Miller was just telling their story...
:)
True, but "Steve-Miller'ed" had a better ring to it (at least to my ears). :P
Quote from: Anguille on April 18, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
will you try to be part of the beta?
I would certainly like to, but in all honesty I know I likely wouldn't be a meaningful/worthwhile contributor even if I applied to the beta and was accepted. I too often lack both the time and (especially) energy to be a regular beta-tester, even in games in which I have a high degree of interest -- much less games in which I have only a mild interest. (Exhibit A: You'll note I've not signed up for the
Oriental Empires beta, even though it's one of my top three most-anticipated games this year.) Sigh.
Quote from: Surtur on April 18, 2016, 03:36:43 AM
The reason for not doing EA on Dawn of Andromeda is quite similar to the one for Oriental Empires. After many discussions, we concluded that the team is simply too small to deal with Early Access. They want to focus on developing the game and making it bug-free, instead of being forced to divert time to post updates and roadmaps and manage a large steam community. We are very much devoted to make this a great game that has its own inque place between all the 4X games.
Fair point,
Surtur. I still can't say I'm precisely happy about the decision, but I can understand the reasons for it readily enough.
Quote from: Surtur on April 18, 2016, 03:36:43 AM
I would also like to point out that Mike learned a lot from his first project and has chosen a much better set of tools to complete Dawn of Andromeda.
Glad to hear it. May it bear out better results this time around.
Quote from: Surtur on April 18, 2016, 03:36:43 AM
Hi all,
The reason for not doing EA on Dawn of Andromeda is quite similar to the one for Oriental Empires. After many discussions, we concluded that the team is simply too small to deal with Early Access. They want to focus on developing the game and making it bug-free, instead of being forced to divert time to post updates and roadmaps and manage a large steam community. We are very much devoted to make this a great game that has its own inque place between all the 4X games.
I would also like to point out that Mike learned a lot from his first project and has chosen a much better set of tools to complete Dawn of Andromeda.
Do you have any news? On steam it says release september...can you confirm it's still the target?
Thanks
Looks like the game is about to get into EA very very soon.
The game looks much better than what i expected and it seems the beta was beneficial after all. :bd:
EDIT: seems he shouldn't have posted the video yet. A video from the live Stream should come up soon and i'll repost that one.
https://www.twitch.tv/iceberg_interactive/v/101617376 (https://www.twitch.tv/iceberg_interactive/v/101617376)
It's on youtube now.
Will post the video by 4explorminate as soon as it's public again.
As promised:
Lots of Info in that one...i like the look of the game. Should hit EA anytime soon i guess.
Oh boy....i think i'll stay at home during december. Chances are good that i'll try this one in 2 weeks.
It's going into EA on the 1st of December
https://www.facebook.com/dawnofandromeda/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/dawnofandromeda/?fref=ts)
Dude, you do remember that this is the same guy who put out a crappy 4x title, abandoned it, and then resurfaced with this new game acting like nothing happened? ??? I mean, I could maybe understand getting this one eventually, but not while it's in EA, not with his track record...
I'm still not going anywhere near this one unless/until it's fully patched and has garnered generally positive reviews. (I especially want to see everyone's take by the rank-and-file both here and at Explorminate). Otherwise, no way.
Quote from: Martok on November 21, 2016, 04:02:20 PM
Dude, you do remember that this is the same guy who put out a crappy 4x title, abandoned it, and then resurfaced with this new game acting like nothing happened? ??? I mean, I could maybe understand getting this one eventually, but not while it's in EA, not with his track record...
I'm still not going anywhere near this one unless/until it's fully patched and has garnered generally positive reviews. (I especially want to see everyone's take by the rank-and-file both here and at Explorminate). Otherwise, no way.
I do and i understand you very well. I even reinstalled Lords of the black Sun to remember why it was so Bad (and i bought it for only 10$). EA is planned for 3 months only so we should see very soon the stage of the release version. My feeling is much better this time and i like what i see (which wasn't the case for their first game and the reason why i waited untill it was very cheap before i bought it). I also think that Iceberg had improved it's Quality Assurance.