http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/22/europe/brussels-explosions/
Death toll now at 23. Prayers for the victims and their families.
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 22, 2016, 05:21:45 AM
Death toll now at 23. Prayers for the victims and their families.
And for the many wounded.
Je suis TinTin !
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and now its time for ...
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...out of Europe !
Sounds like there were 5 separate attacks, two at the airport. Death toll is up to 28.
Some bad news to wake up to.
My wife and kids left Brussels on Sunday so luckily they are out of this madness. My sister and her family who they were visiting in Brussels are safe (but they live in a nieghborhood where there is a huge Muslim population) They are sheltering in their home right now. My brother in law works for the European Union. Two years ago they were in the Ukraine when Russia invaded and now Brussels. I need to ask them where they are going next since they seem to pick their new assignments and then it all goes to hell there.
Con
Quote from: Con on March 22, 2016, 06:56:14 AM
Some bad news to wake up to.
My wife and kids left Brussels on Sunday so luckily they are out of this madness. My sister and her family who they were visiting in Brussels are safe (but they live in a nieghborhood where there is a huge Muslim population) They are sheltering in their home right now. My brother in law works for the European Union. Two years ago they were in the Ukraine when Russia invaded and now Brussels. I need to ask them where they are going next since they seem to pick their new assignments and then it all goes to hell there.
Con
Very glad to hear all your loved ones are safe, Con.
Thankfully your family is safe, Con.
Quote from: Con on March 22, 2016, 06:56:14 AM
Some bad news to wake up to.
My wife and kids left Brussels on Sunday so luckily they are out of this madness. My sister and her family who they were visiting in Brussels are safe (but they live in a nieghborhood where there is a huge Muslim population) They are sheltering in their home right now. My brother in law works for the European Union. Two years ago they were in the Ukraine when Russia invaded and now Brussels. I need to ask them where they are going next since they seem to pick their new assignments and then it all goes to hell there.
Con
Glad they are all safe and well, Con.
Glad their all safe Con.
^ +1 to the above. Glad they're safe.
Quote from: Con on March 22, 2016, 06:56:14 AM
Some bad news to wake up to.
My wife and kids left Brussels on Sunday so luckily they are out of this madness. My sister and her family who they were visiting in Brussels are safe (but they live in a nieghborhood where there is a huge Muslim population) They are sheltering in their home right now. My brother in law works for the European Union. Two years ago they were in the Ukraine when Russia invaded and now Brussels. I need to ask them where they are going next since they seem to pick their new assignments and then it all goes to hell there.
Con
Very good to hear your family is safe.
Unfortunately this is probably only the beginning of what will be a very hot summer in Europe :(
35 people are confirmed as killed, more than 100 injured and some are still fighting for their lives.
Media are reporting everything points to ISIS. It seems Russia warned my country a couple of days ago ISIS combatants from Belarus returned from Syria and
were heading to Belgium.
Major parts of my country are in full lockdown and people are panicking everywhere as police thinks some terrorist are still at large.
Latest news is that they are even evacuating the nuclear powerplant in Tihange.
I live 15K from Brussels and the airport and it is as if life came to a standstill. No planes in the sky, no trains heading to the capital, almost no busses or cars in the streets ...
Stay safe, Pete.
Yup, prayers to all our grogs and family in Belgium and Brussels
European football championship in Paris this summer - God knows how that's going to be policed
Stay strong Pete.
Con, Pete, glad to hear you and yours are safe.
Prayers for the victims and their families.
Quote from: LongBlade on March 22, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
Con, Pete, glad to hear you and yours are safe.
Prayers for the victims and their families.
+1
Stay safe guys
Glad safe, and stay safe.
Apparently, one of the dead attackers at the airport got an assault rifle in there, too.
A curious detail: no responsibility claim in Arabic yet (as of about 30 minutes ago). The A'maq news release was written for Western audiences first and foremost.
I haven't heard claims of assault rifle fire yet; but ISIS' press release indicates that was the plan.
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 22, 2016, 11:57:13 AM
A curious detail: no responsibility claim in Arabic yet (as of about 30 minutes ago). The A'maq news release was written for Western audiences first and foremost.
I haven't heard claims of assault rifle fire yet; but ISIS' press release indicates that was the plan.
news here says abandoned AK47 and an abandoned suicide vest - it could have been a hell of a lot worse
For what it is worth, some witnesses claim they heard gunfire right before the first explosion.
This smaller explosion made people run into the main hall and this is where the second bigger explosion happened.
Their was a third bomb but fortunately this one didn't go off and now they are hunting the terrorist down who carried this one.
During this search a couple of minutes ago in Schaarbeek (part of Brussels) police found another nailbomb like the ones used in the airport. In the same building they found an Isis flag and chemicals.
Last friday police caught in Molembeek (also part of Brussels) the 10th terrorist (and sole survivor) of the Paris attacks a few months ago.
There was a sentiment in the country that this would reduce the danger ...
I heard on the news the police asking people not to tweet, facebook, periscope, or use any other types of social media to broadcast the news of on going police raids.
Quote from: OJsDad on March 22, 2016, 01:56:50 PM
I heard on the news the police asking people not to tweet, facebook, periscope, or use any other types of social media to broadcast the news of on going police raids.
They just asked the media not to spread news about
addresses where raids are planned or already going on.
Last friday a tv station was tipped about the upcoming raid to capture the terrorist and they went live on air before the raid started ! The terrorist could see the police outside the building live on TV and this put the operation and the safety of the participants in danger.
Quote from: Pete Dero on March 22, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on March 22, 2016, 01:56:50 PM
I heard on the news the police asking people not to tweet, facebook, periscope, or use any other types of social media to broadcast the news of on going police raids.
They just asked the media not to spread news about addresses where raids are planned or already going on.
Last friday a tv station was tipped about the upcoming raid to capture the terrorist and they went live on air before the raid started ! The terrorist could see the police outside the building live on TV and this put the operation and the safety of the participants in danger.
Sounds like "journalists" are the same the world over....stupid :-\
Self-serving stupid. Can't wait to hear all the, "We have to be empathetic and measured in our responses" types. :idiot2:
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 22, 2016, 08:51:42 AM
Yup, prayers to all our grogs and family in Belgium and Brussels
European football championship in Paris this summer - God knows how that's going to be policed
Also there is Tour De France. I mean, good luck Policing that
Con and Pete- I'm glad to hear your families are safe. Remain vigilent because I fear that Jejo is correct about things getting worse before they get better.
Not worry folks. The baseball game's over so Obama's back on watch.
Basah-ball been belly-belly good.
Con, glad your family is safe.
Pete, keep your head down and your eyes open. And be safe.
I wish there was some way that Muslims that aren't affiliated with all this terror bullshit could stand up and reckon with their own. These attacks only play into jihadists hands. Spreading hate and mistrust of Muslims among the population. That, in turn, will help to radicalize more Muslims. It's what Daesh wants.
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on March 22, 2016, 06:59:43 AM
Quote from: Con on March 22, 2016, 06:56:14 AM
Some bad news to wake up to.
My wife and kids left Brussels on Sunday so luckily they are out of this madness. My sister and her family who they were visiting in Brussels are safe (but they live in a nieghborhood where there is a huge Muslim population) They are sheltering in their home right now. My brother in law works for the European Union. Two years ago they were in the Ukraine when Russia invaded and now Brussels. I need to ask them where they are going next since they seem to pick their new assignments and then it all goes to hell there.
Con
Very glad to hear all your loved ones are safe, Con.
+1 Amen to that. O0
Quote from: MetalDog on March 22, 2016, 07:45:07 PM
I wish there was some way that Muslims that aren't affiliated with all this terror bullshit could stand up and reckon with their own. These attacks only play into jihadists hands. Spreading hate and mistrust of Muslims among the population. That, in turn, will help to radicalize more Muslims. It's what Daesh wants.
This is the issue: The Sufi's are not your problem but the Salafi's and Wahabi's following the "inspiration" of Sayyid Qutb and similar "scholars". Time to cut out the cancer of Salafism, and Wahabism before it spreads to the rest of the body politic.
The irony is that Salafism - a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam - is far closer to the "religion" of Mohammed, and is inspired by the lives of his immediate successors like Abu Bakr, and Khalid ibn Walid. Their manner of carrying out the Ridda wars, and beyond is textbook IS behaviour. Conversely, the Sufi's who developed after this are often seen as Bid'aa (innovation=heresy), so are criticised as not being really muslims in the eyes of the salafist's and wahabi's. It's all a bit similar to the toxic political and religious bigotry of 16th-17th Century Europe.
So, you encourage Sufi's to take leadership in Islam to represent the "mainstream" of Muslims who can live comfortably with the rest of the non-Islamic world, and isolate the Salafist's and Wahabi's on their lack of morality (in modern day terms). Over time you do everything you can to show that the Sufi version of Islam is actually a religion of peace, rather than the Salafi/Wahabi version based on oppression and religious supremacy over all other beliefs. This is a far better option that one that tars all Muslims with the same brush, since the alternative for them is horrific if the rest of the world feel so threatened by Islamist terror that people conclude that Islam has to be eliminated to protect society. It is important to provide people with an alternative that makes sense, and gives value to the religion, rather than lump all followers into a supremacist death cult, which ultimately has to be faced up to in the interest of self preservation.
When I saw French President Hollande offering his condolences to the Belgians I thought what a hypocrite...
He has had a policeman, Sebastien Jallamion, fined, suspended (for two years), and imprisoned for criticising the head of the Islamic State after the beheading of another French civilian. The charges were dressed up as race hate for criticising an Imam, whereas what he was doing was criticising IS policies. Wake up Hollande! >:(
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6893/france-politically-correct-war-on-islamic-terror
http://galliawatch.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/policeman-suspended-for-reaction-to.html
http://ozconservative.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/song-of-sebastien-jallamion.html