http://store.steampowered.com/app/534500/
So this just released on steam, pretty interesting concept. Its like total war arena meets dynasty warriors meets mount and blade and produces a chinese baby.
Its a ten v ten arena game where you control about 40 troops like in total war arena, but you control a very powerful general on the ground like in dynasty warriors, the combat is also heavily mount and blade inspired where everything is done by mouse
...and its all PvP. Another disappointing online MP only game. ugh.
I though it's about WW2 Tiger Tanks
Probably give a try because it's free to play
I'm downloading it right now, hopefully it will be good.
And there are supposed to be some PvE modes.
Starts around min. 15 (shows the tutorials and some gameplay)
So far, I'm really enjoying the game. Just got through the first tutorial. For me the controls are very intuitive and easy to pickup and play. In fact I think they are more spot on than M&B. The archer controls along with the horseback play are are good too. Game looks gorgeous in DX11 with max graphics. It's like being in a game version of two of my all-time favorite Chinese films "Red Cliff" and "Warlords" with Jet Lee. Can't wait to try out the PVE against AI bots as well as PVP. The devs say in the future that they will add the Roman Army. This one has definitely scratched an itch of the type of game I've always wanted with the time period in Chinese history. Next I've got to go through the Command Tutorial and a bigger battle. Might buy the DLC after I play more and see if the rest of the game looks to have long-term staying power with me.
Quote from: trek on October 25, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
So far, I'm really enjoying the game. Just got through the first tutorial. For me the controls are very intuitive and easy to pickup and play. In fact I think they are more spot on than M&B. The archer controls along with the horseback play are are good too. Game looks gorgeous in DX11 with max graphics. It's like being in a game version of two of my all-time favorite Chinese films "Red Cliff" and "Warlords" with Jet Lee. Can't wait to try out the PVE against AI bots as well as PVP. The devs say in the future that they will add the Roman Army. This one has definitely scratched an itch of the type of game I've always wanted with the time period in Chinese history. Next I've got to go through the Command Tutorial and a bigger battle. Might buy the DLC after I play more and see if the rest of the game looks to have long-term staying power with me.
So there is exclusive SP content, even if it is just skirmishing with bots?
Hope this doesn't become Pay-to-win.
Pretty cinematic tutorial. I love that they put the slash direction indicator and the charge indicator.
Slashing weaker minions in addition to the bosses is satisfying. Though you don't take damage in the tutorial when hit.
Commanding is kinda cool too. Pretty straight forward as opposed to Mount and Blade.
Surprise! Rome is a faction when creating your character! Not sure if they already modelled the Romans. Parthians and Kushans are there too but greyed out. Maybe some future patch will bring them in.
It seems to be ancient World of Tanks. (I was right about WW2 Tiget Tanks after all. lol)
1. Menu layout. Top part: prestiege, gold, select battle options. Bottom part: your squads.
1. Your squad is your tank. There are different classes and unlock trees for different nations.
2. You have different squads in your barracks with limited slots. When they are defeated you need to replenish your squads (akin to repairing).
3. You also have an adjutant (NPC buddy) that you can recruit. He will influence the type of formations your squad can form.
4. When choosing an operation you can choose single player or team game (unlocks at level 5). There is PVP (command mode or duel) and PVE (epic war) modes. Single player doesn't seem to work. I seem to get ported into a MP mode. Unless I misunderstood the UI because I have PVP still selected in Single Player Mode. Team Game must mean something else. I will only know once I get to level 5.
5. I start off poorly equipped and die easily in battle. Grind and grind to get the good stuff. :(
6. You can join clans
7. There are mini challenges on several aspects like in World of Warships.
I like the theme and concept though.
I will specifically select Epic War PVE and see what it is all about.
Can't play PVE until a certain level.
Ok I'm now level 5. Team Game means gathering your friends and joining a match.
The epic battle PVE is a multi-stage mission where all players are on the same side. It's quite cinematic. Example: battle begins with duel between generals then all out attack on a castle.
No sign of a true single player.
Duel mode is not really duel. It's a team death match in an arena where each player is a single fighter and the team that reaches the target kill count wins.
Competitive siege mode is interesting. Attackers break through three gates until they reach the keep and kill and NPC Marshal. They need to keep the battering ram going and breaking gates while also securing spawn points along the way. This denies the defenders from spawning and attacking from the back of the attackers. This also makes the re-spawn location of the attackers closer to the action. This is crucial because there is a timer for each gate. Siege weapons -- like catapults, ballista, and fire bombs on top of the gates -- are available. There is also a soldier spawn ticket pool like Battlefield. It's not consumed by player generals spawning but are consumed by your squads. If tickets become zero, only the player generals spawn without help from their squad. It's quite an experience defending with no more tickets and your hero /general cooperate with other generals in securing the last gate. One thing to note. The gates should be manually opened or closed by the defenders. Defenders can't sally out unless they own a spawn point outside the defences if the gate is closed. But if they forget to close it, the attackers would just easily bypass the gate.
Can you just do purely PvP match types?
It doesn't force you to do PvE modes during your "level-up" phase, does it?
Quote from: Nefaro on October 31, 2016, 04:10:06 PM
Can you just do purely PvP match types?
It doesn't force you to do PvE modes during your "level-up" phase, does it?
Just like World of Tanks games, you chose which types you want to do.
PVE has a purpose. It gives you some rare items (a sword and a horse which have limited time use) not found in the store. But PVE gets boring as it is just one map so far and the items are the same though you only get it by luck.
The gameplay is rather simple, but a bit addictive.
Quote from: Nefaro on November 01, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
The gameplay is rather simple, but a bit addictive.
It actually gets more involved once you unlock the many game modes.
Some strategy is involved under the hood too. Like using the right formations on the right troops. The choice of adjutant influences the formations that they can use.
You decide on whether to go capture locations, kill the generals (other players), or the AI marshal. Must know when to retreat and replenish your squad.
Armour has different types. Some are better against blunt, some against slicing, piercing, etc.
What do the little symbols next to the three armor types represent?
I'm guessing the first is what it's best against, and the second symbol, showing the blood drops between weapon & armor symbol, means it is weak against them?
For example, Cloth armor is best against Blunt weapons, but weak against whatever the second one represents (piercing iirc)?
I've unlocked other modes, but the first one is the most interesting since it's the PvP one where you command a squad.
Haven't paid much attention but I believe the ratings are for Blunt, Slash, Thrust attacks (not in correct order)
Weapons also have different effects depending on attack type. So I pays to bring along different weapons for each situation but one must know what the enemy's armor is good at just by looking at it. I have not gone far as to matching the weapon I wield to the opponent's armour. :idiot2:
Here's an explanation in:
http://tk-en.oasgames.com/news/05202016/013441160.shtml
Command PVP is really the best mode. Wait till you unlock the Siege PVP of the same category. More teamwork required (but just one map for now). Playing command mode lets you level up your squads and research new squads. It is important because the weapons you wield are only unlocked when you research squads and upgrades. I am a level 15 general but I only wield level 4 weapons. There is also a balancing factor. For example you have level 4 weapons but take a level 2 squad to battle because you want to develop them, your weapons are downgraded to level 2.
Duel PVP (Team Deathmatch) give you exploit points which you don't get in command mode. Exploit points can research items not found in any squad.
PVE as mentioned before is a cinematic experience but gets stale very quickly for now. At the end of a match there's a lucky draw for goodies. You can get a rare horse or a rare weapon but these have timed use (can't keep in your inventory forever). Maybe forcing you to do PVE again to restock.
I currently have a 2-Handed Axe and Horse equipped. Plus Mace & Shield for a defensive/dismounted option.
But one specific battle made me realize I need to put some time into one of the other Troop Nationalities, in order to unlock & equip a Bow.
Not only was an enemy player kiting me, while poorly firing his bow at me, but someone's friggin Adjutant was doing the same from horseback after mine had been killed.
That mounted NPC Adjutant was much more effective at grinding down my HP over time, in this way, and it was driving me mad. I couldn't catch up to him while on foot. If I had a bow, I could've ended him sooner, mounted or not. :knuppel2:
Bows squads are cool too. I just sat at the back while my guys took out the enemy NPC Marshal in their base. Being hit by arrows causes stun effect so it slows the target down too. That is if they survive and you get decent help from other players.
I did jump nationalities too. My main faction is Wu... the burly melee sailors armed with swords and clubs / oars. But I had to level the Wei too to get some nice pikes for myself. Pikes are good at taking pot shots outside a dense brawl of soldiers.
I thought about picking up a Pike, as a secondary, but I've had some success with 1-H Axe or Mace and Shield. I somehow tend to get outnumbered on a regular basis. So shield blocking, and faster close-in weapons, makes a good alternative.
I want to get a horse capable polearm / lance / spear.
Quote from: jomni on November 02, 2016, 01:44:21 AM
I want to get a horse capable polearm / lance / spear.
You mean.. besides the basic Bamboo Spear?
That thing's too short and wimpy IMO.
Yes useless. At this stage I got that cheap Level 1 bamboo spear and farming spade that are horse capable.
The level 2 Long spears and pikes are foot only. Not sure when I'll get those proper spear for horses.
Maybe by unlocking cavalry squads. :/
I have come across a few opponents with cavalry now based on my level but they're still light skirmisher types. I just use the horse for mobility. I dismount when fighting.
I've been getting teamed with annoyingly incompetent bastards. Being only five per side, it's a more marked distinction than in something like WoWS/WT.
I move up. Spot the enemy. Make sure some of my teammates are next to me, also pushing forward.
But when I get into the thick of it with the opposing force, one or two nearby teammates inevitably turn and run back to our own spawn camp after seeing the enemy. Leaving me there to get surrounded and trampled in a 2-to-1, or higher, situation. Then they just sit back in our own corner and camp until the enemy side has overwhelmed the few of us out there fighting and comes to clean them up, piecemeal, too. ::)
Also encountered an AFK Bot player that didn't even leave the spawn the whole game. *sigh*
I rage quit after this camping happened three games in a row. Lost every one due to someone fleeing at first contact. Mixed with ~5 minute matchmaker wait times, my gaming session was cut short by choice. :knuppel2:
Quote from: Nefaro on November 02, 2016, 08:42:09 AM
I've been getting teamed with annoyingly incompetent bastards. Being only five per side, it's a more marked distinction than in something like WoWS/WT.
I move up. Spot the enemy. Make sure some of my teammates are next to me, also pushing forward.
But when I get into the thick of it with the opposing force, one or two nearby teammates inevitably turn and run back to our own spawn camp after seeing the enemy. Leaving me there to get surrounded and trampled in a 2-to-1, or higher, situation. Then they just sit back in our own corner and camp until the enemy side has overwhelmed the few of us out there fighting and comes to clean them up, piecemeal, too. ::)
Also encountered an AFK Bot player that didn't even leave the spawn the whole game. *sigh*
I rage quit after this camping happened three games in a row. Lost every one due to someone fleeing at first contact. Mixed with ~5 minute matchmaker wait times, my gaming session was cut short by choice. :knuppel2:
Pretty much what happens to me in every sort of WoT game I play.
I even rage quitted Armored Warfare after it started happening a lot in it (which, coincidentally, started when the game became full F2P instead of B2P).
The ping was so bad when I played this that it was unplayable for me. That and the jinglish explanations on everything made it hard to get into.
I will give it another go when the romans come. But it seems far too reliant on heros. It's like watching an asian crouching tiger and hidden dragon style war movie... hell it might even be based on that new
jacky chan movie about the chinese co-operating with some lost legionaries against the roman empire.
OMG I can't un-see that.
Roman soldiers without scutum. #:-) Jon Cusack attempting to act like a Roman officer. :hide:
Haha! It really is bad is it not. The armour looks like plastic stuff you would get from K-Mart or Walmart.
But the idea is an interesting one, if indeed somebody did it properly it would be very nice... perhaps in a beefed up total war game for instance.
The Romans are here!
Jomni. How do I get a Roman commander ? Get rid of my current commander and start from scratch?
Quote from: Destraex on February 19, 2017, 02:18:19 AM
Jomni. How do I get a Roman commander ? Get rid of my current commander and start from scratch?
Your character can be reused. Just load him up with Roman equipment then he "becomes" Roman.
You have to buy a DLC to get a Roman adjutant and Roman armour. :(
http://store.steampowered.com/app/591700/
Too laggy to invest in unfortunately.