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Title: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 26, 2023, 12:13:50 PM
$hit, yeah!

Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on May 26, 2023, 12:47:21 PM
That was very awesome.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Destraex on May 28, 2023, 02:31:37 AM
Looks like starship troopers. Or should the Starship Troopers IP have been given to these guys?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: jamus34 on May 28, 2023, 07:43:12 AM
If the gameplay holds up I most definitely think the latter...
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 28, 2023, 07:57:56 AM
Helldivers is an exceptional game. Probably one of the best co-op shooters ever made and its use of the Starship Troopers trope is masterful. I have high hopes for this sequel.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Sigwolf on May 28, 2023, 09:49:38 AM
If I wasn't so multi-player game averse, I would be all over this.  Unfortunately this series does not appear to be very single player friendly.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 09, 2024, 05:02:34 PM
Despite some initial negative reviews, this game seems pretty awesome so far. I've only just started playing and unfortunately, we're going on a ski trip this weekend. However, I'll definitely "dive" into this feet first next week.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Tripoli on February 09, 2024, 05:57:07 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 09, 2024, 05:02:34 PM...unfortunately, we're going on a ski trip this weekend....

It is grammatically incorrect to place the word "unfortunately" and "ski trip" in the same sentence.   :grin: 
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 09, 2024, 08:29:52 PM
Lol.  This looks absolutely gonzo bonkers in a good way.  Interested to see what kind of legs this title has.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2024, 01:31:02 AM
Any thoughts on how it plays single player?  I know meant as co op, so is it too hard to try and do things solo?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 11, 2024, 06:16:35 PM
Rimmy Downunder and some mates demo the release:


And a good time was had by all.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2024, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2024, 01:31:02 AMAny thoughts on how it plays single player?  I know meant as co op, so is it too hard to try and do things solo?

Only the easiest of missions can be accomplished solo. If you continued to try to play this way, eventually you would give up in frustration.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2024, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2024, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2024, 01:31:02 AMAny thoughts on how it plays single player?  I know meant as co op, so is it too hard to try and do things solo?

Only the easiest of missions can be accomplished solo. If you continued to try to play this way, eventually you would give up in frustration.

Thank you for confirming, probably not for me then.  Does look interesting.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Tripoli on February 14, 2024, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2024, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2024, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2024, 01:31:02 AMAny thoughts on how it plays single player?  I know meant as co op, so is it too hard to try and do things solo?

Only the easiest of missions can be accomplished solo. If you continued to try to play this way, eventually you would give up in frustration.


Thank you for confirming, probably not for me then.  Does look interesting.

Same here.  I would love something like this, but only if I can do it solo.  I don't have the time flexibility to play with others co-op on line. 
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 14, 2024, 06:19:09 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2024, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 13, 2024, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2024, 01:31:02 AMAny thoughts on how it plays single player?  I know meant as co op, so is it too hard to try and do things solo?

Only the easiest of missions can be accomplished solo. If you continued to try to play this way, eventually you would give up in frustration.

Thank you for confirming, probably not for me then.  Does look interesting.

Let me put it this way...I'm very much like you. I prefer single player experiences and hate MP only games. I LOVE THIS GAME. IT's FRICKEN AWESOME. Getting into a mission with random squad mates is seamless. So far, I've had no negative experiences, no connectivity issues, no annoying chatter and playing with others has been very rewarding. You hardly know its a MP experience.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Geezer on February 14, 2024, 06:26:24 PM
I tried solo and it was very frustrating, even on the easiest level.  Ended up refunding it.  YMMV.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Skoop on February 14, 2024, 07:54:53 PM
I'm pretty sure there's match making to coop with randos, I'd try that versus solo.  Same thing with six days in falluja, you have to coop it with friends or randos or you will have a horrible time.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 14, 2024, 09:03:53 PM
Something like this screams for a "Squad," treatment where there are multiple groups heading for a overall larger objective - throw in combined arms where you've got a boss in orbit in a "top down," command view (with bombardment controls, etc.) and some flyboys tearing up the airspace too.  Whoo-boy, wouldn't that be some shit.

p.s. And RubixRaptor showed off an Arma 3 mod that does just that.

Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 16, 2024, 08:30:05 PM
I'm telling you, boys...this game is awesome. They doubled server capacity and this still happens.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/428341148_10160622457027702_8715191258903661205_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&cb=99be929b-8d691acd&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=Sp7R4UBNKOoAX-kTjXD&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AfARyRRdCHP8IOpbfWKezALqdoEDYVWKj4dnF8Ktfbrxtw&oe=65D50B12)
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 18, 2024, 12:24:41 AM
Game absolutely rules.  In addition to the awesome and addicting gameplay, the writing is fantastic.  I love how they nailed the satirical tone of Starship Troopers.  The whole training sequence with the pre-recorded general talking you up like the ultimate badass because you followed basic instructions and managed not to get killed by an automated turret is just *chef's kiss*

I've been playing the easier missions on solo and been enjoying it fine, but it definitely seems worth queuing up with randoms for the harder ones.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 18, 2024, 07:44:21 AM
Server capacity issues are becoming a real problem. They need to fix this ASAP. I've only been able to get in once this weekend so far. Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 18, 2024, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 18, 2024, 07:44:21 AMServer capacity issues are becoming a real problem. They need to fix this ASAP. I've only been able to get in once this weekend so far. Very frustrating.

I've hit the queue every time I fire up, but I've always managed to get a game within 5 minutes or so.  I wonder if it's a regional thing?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 18, 2024, 10:39:11 PM
To be fair (cue Letterkenny bit), it's an amazing thing where a game has generated so much interest/attention/exposure with seemingly few problems outside of the server issues in such a short amount of time - and granted, I'm on the outside looking in on this so my take is probably full of holes already.

I'm impressed as to how this thing has blown up in such a good way and how this puts the big boys on notice, too.

Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 19, 2024, 09:46:30 PM
May have spoken too soon, been stuck on "Defrosting Helldiver" for quite a while now.  Is this a fancy new way of saying queued up?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 21, 2024, 09:30:08 PM
I managed to play a bit earlier today around 4 PM PST, but now at 6:30 PM I've been sitting in the queue for half an hour straight.  Apparently there's no AFK auto-kick feature, so there's probably a ton of people who just have the game running constantly with their character sitting in their ship all day and night until they're ready to play.

Definitely a bit frustrating.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 21, 2024, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 21, 2024, 09:30:08 PMI managed to play a bit earlier today around 4 PM PST, but now at 6:30 PM I've been sitting in the queue for half an hour straight.  Apparently there's no AFK auto-kick feature, so there's probably a ton of people who just have the game running constantly with their character sitting in their ship all day and night until they're ready to play.

Definitely a bit frustrating.

It's totally frustrating, but it's such a kickass game. They really knocked it out of the park.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Destraex on February 21, 2024, 11:14:23 PM
You're tempting me Jarhead. I have a mate who has it. He seems to like it. But I have barely touched squad which was supposed to be my fps staple.
If this game has a starship troopers vibe is it hands down better than the actual starship troopers recent fps release?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 21, 2024, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2024, 11:14:23 PMYou're tempting me Jarhead. I have a mate who has it. He seems to like it. But I have barely touched squad which was supposed to be my fps staple.
If this game has a starship troopers vibe is it hands down better than the actual starship troopers recent fps release?

It's extremely different.  The Starship Troopers game was a base building wave defense game.  This is more of a get in, accomplish an objective, and get out before you get overwhelmed game.  No bases, just cool explodey guns and support weapons.  Hard to really compare, but this one is extremely addicting.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Tripoli on February 22, 2024, 08:53:59 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 21, 2024, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2024, 11:14:23 PMYou're tempting me Jarhead. I have a mate who has it. He seems to like it. But I have barely touched squad which was supposed to be my fps staple.
If this game has a starship troopers vibe is it hands down better than the actual starship troopers recent fps release?

It's extremely different.  The Starship Troopers game was a base building wave defense game.  This is more of a get in, accomplish an objective, and get out before you get overwhelmed game.  No bases, just cool explodey guns and support weapons.  Hard to really compare, but this one is extremely addicting.
Is it trying to capture some of the vibe of the Heinlein "Starship Trooper" book?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 22, 2024, 10:12:32 AM
Quote from: Tripoli on February 22, 2024, 08:53:59 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 21, 2024, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2024, 11:14:23 PMYou're tempting me Jarhead. I have a mate who has it. He seems to like it. But I have barely touched squad which was supposed to be my fps staple.
If this game has a starship troopers vibe is it hands down better than the actual starship troopers recent fps release?

It's extremely different.  The Starship Troopers game was a base building wave defense game.  This is more of a get in, accomplish an objective, and get out before you get overwhelmed game.  No bases, just cool explodey guns and support weapons.  Hard to really compare, but this one is extremely addicting.
Is it trying to capture some of the vibe of the Heinlein "Starship Trooper" book?


Not at all. It's the tone of the film 100%.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 01:58:42 PM
My son who's playing it says it's a mix of the Starship Troopers movie and Halo 3:ODST.  He says the humour is definitely the cynicism towards militarism of Verhoeven's film.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 22, 2024, 03:15:10 PM
Quote from: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 01:58:42 PMMy son who's playing it says it's a mix of the Starship Troopers movie and Halo 3:ODST.  He says the humour is definitely the cynicism towards militarism of Verhoeven's film.

Verhoeven's film is not militaristic, it's quite the opposite.  Verhoeven himself has explained how heavily he was channeling Nazi propaganda both for the costumes and the direction of the film itself as an idictment of the Terran Federation.

That said, Helldivers is much more explicit about its cynicism. More text than subtext.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 01:58:42 PMHe says the humour is definitely the cynicism towards militarism of Verhoeven's film.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 22, 2024, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Uberhaus on February 22, 2024, 01:58:42 PMHe says the humour is definitely the cynicism towards militarism of Verhoeven's film.

Oh sorry, I totally misread that!  Yes you're right.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: em2nought on February 23, 2024, 01:26:00 AM
Each time I see "Helldivers" I keep expecting to see a late war Pacific flight sim.  :planepilot:
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 23, 2024, 06:50:24 PM
Took me a bit, but the fact that the drop-pods are essentially bullets being fired at the planet is just the icing on the cake in terms of the Helldivers theme (i.e. "freedom via the ammo box.").  Those fellows who made that game really knocked it out of the park, I'd say.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 05:59:23 PM
Single player guide from PC Gamer, which of course now has me thinking about picking it up  :grumpy:

https://www.pcgamer.com/helldivers-2-solo-play-tips/
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 05:59:23 PMSingle player guide from PC Gamer, which of course now has me thinking about picking it up  :grumpy:

https://www.pcgamer.com/helldivers-2-solo-play-tips/

The game is definitely playable single player, especially if you stick to easier missions, and DOUBLE especially if you stick to bug maps.  The robots are hard as hell, but still beatable.  The most important thing to remember is to just keep moving and use rocks and crates and stuff to create obstacles between you and the baddies.

It does seem like it can take a while to unlock the better weapons mentioned in that guide, though.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 24, 2024, 10:13:57 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 05:59:23 PMSingle player guide from PC Gamer, which of course now has me thinking about picking it up  :grumpy:

https://www.pcgamer.com/helldivers-2-solo-play-tips/

The game is definitely playable single player, especially if you stick to easier missions, and DOUBLE especially if you stick to bug maps.  The robots are hard as hell, but still beatable.  The most important thing to remember is to just keep moving and use rocks and crates and stuff to create obstacles between you and the baddies.

It does seem like it can take a while to unlock the better weapons mentioned in that guide, though.

If I find myself solo, I use sentries a lot to cover my back while doing something that takes my attention. I usually deploy with two sentries. 
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 24, 2024, 10:13:57 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 05:59:23 PMSingle player guide from PC Gamer, which of course now has me thinking about picking it up  :grumpy:

https://www.pcgamer.com/helldivers-2-solo-play-tips/

The game is definitely playable single player, especially if you stick to easier missions, and DOUBLE especially if you stick to bug maps.  The robots are hard as hell, but still beatable.  The most important thing to remember is to just keep moving and use rocks and crates and stuff to create obstacles between you and the baddies.

It does seem like it can take a while to unlock the better weapons mentioned in that guide, though.

If I find myself solo, I use sentries a lot to cover my back while doing something that takes my attention. I usually deploy with two sentries.

Yeah, gotta be careful with those sentries though.  I've cut myself down on my own sentry on more than one occasion, including once RIGHT as I was getting on the shuttle to leave.   :buck2:

I almost always go through at least several casualties per mission, which at least feels thematically appropriate.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 24, 2024, 10:23:56 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 24, 2024, 10:13:57 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 05:59:23 PMSingle player guide from PC Gamer, which of course now has me thinking about picking it up  :grumpy:

https://www.pcgamer.com/helldivers-2-solo-play-tips/

The game is definitely playable single player, especially if you stick to easier missions, and DOUBLE especially if you stick to bug maps.  The robots are hard as hell, but still beatable.  The most important thing to remember is to just keep moving and use rocks and crates and stuff to create obstacles between you and the baddies.

It does seem like it can take a while to unlock the better weapons mentioned in that guide, though.

If I find myself solo, I use sentries a lot to cover my back while doing something that takes my attention. I usually deploy with two sentries.

Yeah, gotta be careful with those sentries though.  I've cut myself down on my own sentry on more than one occasion, including once RIGHT as I was getting on the shuttle to leave.   :buck2:

I almost always go through at least several casualties per mission, which at least feels thematically appropriate.

Yes. You need to strategically deploy them. So, if I'm attacking a bug outpost on my own, I will usually deploy a sentry off to one side so it can shoot at emerging bugs, while still giving me safe access to approach the holes and lob grenades in.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 11:16:02 PM
What percentage of your time with the game do you all play solo?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on February 24, 2024, 11:37:02 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2024, 11:16:02 PMWhat percentage of your time with the game do you all play solo?

Me?  100%.  I haven't gotten the chance to play with friends yet, and I just straight up refuse to play with randoms.  I've had a really good time solo, but it was a bit of an uphill battle to begin with.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: jamus34 on March 04, 2024, 10:42:36 AM
Finally picked this up. Played with some friends yesterday and got destroyed. Then the game pretty much crashed on all of us.

The 40 min or so we were in it were fun as hell though.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2024, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on March 04, 2024, 10:42:36 AMFinally picked this up. Played with some friends yesterday and got destroyed. Then the game pretty much crashed on all of us.

The 40 min or so we were in it were fun as hell though.

I've played over 30 hours and have not had a single crash, so that's odd and hopefully rare.

The game is epic. It is all I can play at the moment. I'm a level 14 Sergeant and have killing Terminids down into an industrial science. Murdering them is glorious.

For solo players, I will say that as you advance and get access to better tech, completing missions on your own does get easier and more plausible. By using sentry turrets, drones and orbital bombardment or close air support, completing most objectives solo is manageable. I'll even say it is sometimes preferable as my biggest pet peeve has become players who request EVAC as soon as the primary objective is completed. I prefer sticking around to farm secondary objectives for XP and credits.


Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2024, 11:58:15 AM
By the way...I heard playable mechs and the ability to call in NPCs to assist are in the works.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2024, 02:38:01 PM
Playable mechs you say?  :jawdrop:
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2024, 03:04:35 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 04, 2024, 02:38:01 PMPlayable mechs you say?  :jawdrop:

Yup...

(https://static.tweaktown.com/news/9/6/96536_22_helldivers-2-future-updates-might-add-playable-mechs-rockets-and-machine-guns-for-democracy.jpg)

(https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Screenshot_1-9474.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C416)
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2024, 03:30:55 PM
 :Dreamer:
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on March 07, 2024, 10:23:25 AM
Love how in the latest news, the Devs nipped that whole "meta," b.s. that was on the rise by nerfing some things and buffing others and then to follow it up with "eh, point is to have fun, mates."  The gnashing of teeth from the min/maxers is amusing to say the least.

If/when I can ever buff my computer to run this game, I'll happily give these folks cash.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on March 08, 2024, 09:42:24 PM
People are way into the idea of a one-size-fits-all "meta."  Majority of average gamers don't want to have to think about situational choices, what gear and tactics are best for the right mission, etc.  I dig the devs commitment to keeping the game challenging.

Also -- mechs are in the game now!   :strongbad:
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 08, 2024, 10:23:52 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on March 08, 2024, 09:42:24 PMPeople are way into the idea of a one-size-fits-all "meta."  Majority of average gamers don't want to have to think about situational choices, what gear and tactics are best for the right mission, etc.  I dig the devs commitment to keeping the game challenging.

Also -- mechs are in the game now!   :strongbad:

The mechs are really good, but not overpowered. I think they fit in really well.

Still loving this game. Level 16 Master Sergeant. A really cool new Warbond is on the way too. Armor and weapons look sick!
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on March 08, 2024, 10:30:13 PM
Yes, and I like that if you shoot the rocket too close to yourself, it's instant death.  The game really doesn't pull its punches.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 08, 2024, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on March 08, 2024, 10:30:13 PMYes, and I like that if you shoot the rocket too close to yourself, it's instant death.  The game really doesn't pull its punches.

Yes. Death comes in so many accidental and hilarious ways.

The game is just brilliant. I agree with you that its GOTY so far.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on March 08, 2024, 10:51:15 PM
I didn't even really think about it the first time, I just assumed being in a mech and all, I could shoot a rocket right down at a big bug next to me and I'd be fine for a shot or two before it turned into a problem.

Que to my limbless torso flying in bloody chunks through the air.

Also, the community strategy of "You want your shiny toys?  You better fight for 'em!" was brilliant with regards to the playerbase having to liberate a planet to unlock the mechs.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 09:37:22 AM
Definitely envy people who have been able to handle and enjoy the game, recently purchased the game fully knowing it likely would be tough for me and it certainly has lived up to that.

First of all, I do think it is a well done product, even the initial intro video was nice and had humor.  Graphics look very good and the controls are very nice.  Again, very nicely done.

But as I suspected, the game is simply too tough for me, especially in solo mode.  I even died during the tutorial, which was a bad sign:)  Tried a few missions and simply don't survive long, the amount of bugs and their aggressiveness simply overwhelm anything I am capable of doing.  They come from every direction and in numbers. not too mention I have to reload so often it further exposes me, even if I try to run away.  Kind of like when you have to use the coded input but as I am doing that, bugs come at me which makes it difficult to survive.  I have been unlucky with the respawning as well, many times show up in the middle of the bugs which I die in seconds:)

None of this is meant to imply the game isn't good, I actually do like it a lot during the time I am able to survive.  I freely admit I am not the world's greatest shooter so no doubt my lack of success is also because I can't make use of all the tools and resources fast enough to survive, which is completely on me.  I have the same issues when playing RTS games when you have to manage a lot at a frantic pace.

So again, for anyone that has been able to do this solo, I have mad respect for your abilities and will continue to monitor this thread for tips.  I plan to keep playing it, just setting very low expectations for my progress:)
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 09:37:22 AMDefinitely envy people who have been able to handle and enjoy the game, recently purchased the game fully knowing it likely would be tough for me and it certainly has lived up to that.

First of all, I do think it is a well done product, even the initial intro video was nice and had humor.  Graphics look very good and the controls are very nice.  Again, very nicely done.

But as I suspected, the game is simply too tough for me, especially in solo mode.  I even died during the tutorial, which was a bad sign:)  Tried a few missions and simply don't survive long, the amount of bugs and their aggressiveness simply overwhelm anything I am capable of doing.  They come from every direction and in numbers. not too mention I have to reload so often it further exposes me, even if I try to run away.  Kind of like when you have to use the coded input but as I am doing that, bugs come at me which makes it difficult to survive.  I have been unlucky with the respawning as well, many times show up in the middle of the bugs which I die in seconds:)

None of this is meant to imply the game isn't good, I actually do like it a lot during the time I am able to survive.  I freely admit I am not the world's greatest shooter so no doubt my lack of success is also because I can't make use of all the tools and resources fast enough to survive, which is completely on me.  I have the same issues when playing RTS games when you have to manage a lot at a frantic pace.

So again, for anyone that has been able to do this solo, I have mad respect for your abilities and will continue to monitor this thread for tips.  I plan to keep playing it, just setting very low expectations for my progress:)

You know you can change the level of difficulty for missions?
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 09:37:22 AMDefinitely envy people who have been able to handle and enjoy the game, recently purchased the game fully knowing it likely would be tough for me and it certainly has lived up to that.

First of all, I do think it is a well done product, even the initial intro video was nice and had humor.  Graphics look very good and the controls are very nice.  Again, very nicely done.

But as I suspected, the game is simply too tough for me, especially in solo mode.  I even died during the tutorial, which was a bad sign:)  Tried a few missions and simply don't survive long, the amount of bugs and their aggressiveness simply overwhelm anything I am capable of doing.  They come from every direction and in numbers. not too mention I have to reload so often it further exposes me, even if I try to run away.  Kind of like when you have to use the coded input but as I am doing that, bugs come at me which makes it difficult to survive.  I have been unlucky with the respawning as well, many times show up in the middle of the bugs which I die in seconds:)

None of this is meant to imply the game isn't good, I actually do like it a lot during the time I am able to survive.  I freely admit I am not the world's greatest shooter so no doubt my lack of success is also because I can't make use of all the tools and resources fast enough to survive, which is completely on me.  I have the same issues when playing RTS games when you have to manage a lot at a frantic pace.

So again, for anyone that has been able to do this solo, I have mad respect for your abilities and will continue to monitor this thread for tips.  I plan to keep playing it, just setting very low expectations for my progress:)

You know you can change the level of difficulty for missions?

Thought it said on my screen being easy level but haven't found where you specifically set it.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 11:44:43 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 09:37:22 AMDefinitely envy people who have been able to handle and enjoy the game, recently purchased the game fully knowing it likely would be tough for me and it certainly has lived up to that.

First of all, I do think it is a well done product, even the initial intro video was nice and had humor.  Graphics look very good and the controls are very nice.  Again, very nicely done.

But as I suspected, the game is simply too tough for me, especially in solo mode.  I even died during the tutorial, which was a bad sign:)  Tried a few missions and simply don't survive long, the amount of bugs and their aggressiveness simply overwhelm anything I am capable of doing.  They come from every direction and in numbers. not too mention I have to reload so often it further exposes me, even if I try to run away.  Kind of like when you have to use the coded input but as I am doing that, bugs come at me which makes it difficult to survive.  I have been unlucky with the respawning as well, many times show up in the middle of the bugs which I die in seconds:)

None of this is meant to imply the game isn't good, I actually do like it a lot during the time I am able to survive.  I freely admit I am not the world's greatest shooter so no doubt my lack of success is also because I can't make use of all the tools and resources fast enough to survive, which is completely on me.  I have the same issues when playing RTS games when you have to manage a lot at a frantic pace.

So again, for anyone that has been able to do this solo, I have mad respect for your abilities and will continue to monitor this thread for tips.  I plan to keep playing it, just setting very low expectations for my progress:)

You know you can change the level of difficulty for missions?

Thought it said on my screen being easy level but haven't found where you specifically set it.

From the mission selection screen, press 'Q' or 'E' to adjust difficulty. I believe "Trivial" is the easiest setting.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 11:44:43 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 09:37:22 AMDefinitely envy people who have been able to handle and enjoy the game, recently purchased the game fully knowing it likely would be tough for me and it certainly has lived up to that.

First of all, I do think it is a well done product, even the initial intro video was nice and had humor.  Graphics look very good and the controls are very nice.  Again, very nicely done.

But as I suspected, the game is simply too tough for me, especially in solo mode.  I even died during the tutorial, which was a bad sign:)  Tried a few missions and simply don't survive long, the amount of bugs and their aggressiveness simply overwhelm anything I am capable of doing.  They come from every direction and in numbers. not too mention I have to reload so often it further exposes me, even if I try to run away.  Kind of like when you have to use the coded input but as I am doing that, bugs come at me which makes it difficult to survive.  I have been unlucky with the respawning as well, many times show up in the middle of the bugs which I die in seconds:)

None of this is meant to imply the game isn't good, I actually do like it a lot during the time I am able to survive.  I freely admit I am not the world's greatest shooter so no doubt my lack of success is also because I can't make use of all the tools and resources fast enough to survive, which is completely on me.  I have the same issues when playing RTS games when you have to manage a lot at a frantic pace.

So again, for anyone that has been able to do this solo, I have mad respect for your abilities and will continue to monitor this thread for tips.  I plan to keep playing it, just setting very low expectations for my progress:)

You know you can change the level of difficulty for missions?

Thought it said on my screen being easy level but haven't found where you specifically set it.

From the mission selection screen, press 'Q' or 'E' to adjust difficulty. I believe "Trivial" is the easiest setting.

Thank you will certainly check it out
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Skoop on March 09, 2024, 12:50:53 PM
Saw a vid of guys doing solo as stealth.  They were show casing the stealth mechanics.  It seems that if you just can't get a group going and have to go solo, stealth may be your best strategy.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 09, 2024, 12:52:31 PM
You can get a 17% discount at Fanatical if you use the code FANATICAL17 at checkout.

My friends have been bugging me to buy it.  I was about to order it but I checked the Steam forums first.  Sounds like there are issues with rebinding controls over to the numpad so it's a no-go for me at this point.
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Gusington on March 09, 2024, 03:00:47 PM
'Trivial' difficulty setting I love that  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 06:55:17 PM
Quote from: Skoop on March 09, 2024, 12:50:53 PMSaw a vid of guys doing solo as stealth.  They were show casing the stealth mechanics.  It seems that if you just can't get a group going and have to go solo, stealth may be your best strategy.

I solo all the time and stealth is not in my strategy book. I'm guns blazing, but you've got to be smart about it. Against the bugs, you need to be tactical. Strike from a position of advantage. Fall back and lay down fire as they advance. Use technology to your advantage. As I previously noted, I use a drone armed with a laser and sentry turrets to cover my flanks and rear as I either work on accomplishing objectives, or as I assault bug holes.

The Automatons are definitely tougher. I've only gone on about three or four missions against them. They use rockets and other kinetic and explosive weapons so they definitely require different tactics. I do avoid certain fights and patrols against them.  I have something like 90,000 total kills, and of those, about 89,000 are bugs. 

Solo is 100% absolutely doable, and as I noted, sometimes, I actually prefer it. 
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: al_infierno on March 09, 2024, 07:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 06:55:17 PMstealth is not in my strategy book. I'm guns blazing,


Pretty sure if your reply said anything else, it'd be the equivalent of blinking "HELP ME I'VE BEEN KIDNAPPED" in morse code!
Title: Re: Helldivers II Announced!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 09, 2024, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 09, 2024, 11:53:57 AMThank you will certainly check it out

Do I have you on my steam friends list? What's your Steam name? I'll hop into one of your games.