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Title: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on July 19, 2023, 06:13:16 PM
Comes out next month. Anyone here getting it and anyone here play the beta/early access? If so, what did you like or dislike?

I'm already growing tired of Diablo 4. The hack n slash is only good for so long. Doubt I finish it.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 19, 2023, 07:08:42 PM
^You make me sad.

The more I read about BG3 the more I like. I am definitely getting it.

I have not had any part in the beta or early access, though.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on July 19, 2023, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: Gusington on July 19, 2023, 07:08:42 PMThe more I read about BG3 the more I like.

Pro or con..................


"I can take a bear."
"In a fight, right?"
"....."
"IN A FIGHT, RIGHT?!"
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on July 19, 2023, 10:11:16 PM
Ok.........

Beastiality in a game......yea, I'm out
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on July 20, 2023, 12:32:21 AM
Quote from: acctingman on July 19, 2023, 10:11:16 PMOk.........

Beastiality in a game......yea, I'm out

Its not quite as it seems. The bear is actually the Druid character. For such stuff to occur the Druid would need to romance another character and then shapeshift....Totally avoidable but I agree its a bizarre option to make.

On the other had all reports are that the game itself is simply incredible and era defining for RPG's in terms of depth of story, choices and consequences.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 20, 2023, 04:55:03 AM
One of those early access games I bought that I still haven't even played:(
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 20, 2023, 07:45:31 AM
I've read very recently (last week) that the player is 'haunted by darkness' and is regularly led by his conscience to make the dark decisions...and must actively fight against doing that. I dig that muchly.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on July 20, 2023, 09:36:14 AM
Long-time BG fan but the price for early access and all the L-O-N-G wait time turned me off. I will wait and see on this one.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on July 20, 2023, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: devoncop on July 20, 2023, 12:32:21 AMOn the other had all reports are that the game itself is simply incredible and era defining for RPG's in terms of depth of story, choices and consequences.

Probably similar to the original Dragon's Age in that (and other) regards -- and for good reason, considering its pedigree!
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on July 20, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: Gusington on July 20, 2023, 07:45:31 AMI've read very recently (last week) that the player is 'haunted by darkness' and is regularly led by his conscience to make the dark decisions...and must actively fight against doing that. I dig that muchly.

In theory I dig that.

In practice, I'm recalling the bear fornication, and snicker/smirking. Which is not easy to do!
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on July 20, 2023, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: Gusington on July 20, 2023, 07:45:31 AMI've read very recently (last week) that the player is 'haunted by darkness' and is regularly led by his conscience to make the dark decisions...and must actively fight against doing that. I dig that muchly.

One of the character Origins you can choose is "Dark Urge" where you certainly don't fight against such urges.....right up your street Gus 😉
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 20, 2023, 02:16:29 PM
^You know me all to well  :ninjameditate:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on July 21, 2023, 05:35:24 PM
Ok, so the more I dug I realised I was off about the whole beastiality thing. It's still weird as f**k though even if it's just a spell.

Won't stop me from buying. This game looks massive and right up my rpg ally, but not sure it's a day 1 buy for me, but not sure I can wait for a big sale either.

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 21, 2023, 07:29:54 PM
You post 'weird as f*ck' as if it's a bad thing!
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on July 21, 2023, 10:34:55 PM
I've always thought of, 'Weird as shit' as a bad thing and, 'weird as f*ck' as either a good thing or an extremely bad thing depending on circumstances. 'Weird as f*cking shit' can only be a bad thing though.

I can't actually remember the last time I played an RPG to the finish. Guess I've kind of grown out of them? I hope this game is epic enough so I can retrograde a decade or so.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on July 21, 2023, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: Gusington on July 21, 2023, 07:29:54 PMYou post 'weird as f*ck' as if it's a bad thing!

my apologies....I forgot what forum this was  :shocked:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 21, 2023, 10:45:28 PM
Hmm I think the last RPG I finished was Witcher 3.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on July 22, 2023, 12:11:00 PM
I finished Pillars of Eternity 2 but not the DLC thing. I've done Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 twice but can't get excited about doing it a third time. Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2...unfinished. And Solasta thinks I've forgotten it. But soon....
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 31, 2023, 06:08:03 PM
Looks like final release will weigh in at 122gb and current saves not supported.  Even if you have early access, they seem to imply a complete reinstall will be needed.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on July 31, 2023, 07:26:20 PM
ouchie
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on July 31, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
That sounds very familiar from past complaints I've heard.  :hair:   Still, maybe the game will be so epic it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 01, 2023, 07:36:00 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 31, 2023, 06:08:03 PMLooks like final release will weigh in at 122gb and current saves not supported.  Even if you have early access, they seem to imply a complete reinstall will be needed.

That's a good way to get review-bombed! Wow, I'd at least try to find some way of partially refunding the people who paid to help beta-test my product. Imagine chewing along on BG1 or 2 for a year, waiting for the grand finale to open up, only to be told you'll have to start over completely from the beginning.

Although to be fair, I don't know how much gameplay was actually open during the beta. There may have been only messing around, no actual progress. In which case, players may be able to import their developed characters and start the story with them now (even if they're radically overpowered by now).
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 01, 2023, 09:28:55 AM
Some complaints on the Steam board I read a while back included having to restart a new game when new updates and changes to the Early Access versions came out. That's what kept me away. Like a giant Beholder came through and hit your old save with it's Disintegration Ray eyeball.  :cussing: 
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 03, 2023, 08:12:46 AM
For those planning to get the final release, they released a guide on how to prepare for it, especially if you were in the early access program as you need to do a clean install to be the safest.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3655285941429712390
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 08:16:19 AM
^Nice. It is rare that I get excited that I was not in the early access program but here we are.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 03, 2023, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 08:16:19 AM^Nice. It is rare that I get excited that I was not in the early access program but here we are.

Yeah, I was in the early access, but looking at my time in the game it was a total of 28 minutes so this is really no big issue for me.  I typically always opt-in to early access programs if I know eventually I would buy it anyways and I am reasonably confident it will reach a completed state.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 08:33:21 AM
^That said I am very much looking forward to this release. Maybe my top anticipated game of the year besides The Great War: Western Front and Diablo.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 03, 2023, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 08:33:21 AM^That said I am very much looking forward to this release. Maybe my top anticipated game of the year besides The Great War: Western Front and Diablo.

Yep, seems like a lot of people feel that way:)  Come 11am eastern time, the internet is going to slow down with everyone trying to download this thing:)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: bobarossa on August 03, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 03, 2023, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 08:33:21 AM^That said I am very much looking forward to this release. Maybe my top anticipated game of the year besides The Great War: Western Front and Diablo.

Yep, seems like a lot of people feel that way:)  Come 11am eastern time, the internet is going to slow down with everyone trying to download this thing:)
If I tried using a 9600 baud modem to download this thing it would take just under 4 years. Bet that would clog up the landlines!
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 12:57:07 PM
^Hahaha it would be worth it though.

My purchase is imminent. I am clearing my gaming decks for this, Diablo and Aliens Dark Descent.

It is rare for me to drop everything reading and gaming wise but I have been deep into history lately so it will be nice to take a break from historical gaming and reading and dive into the above three titles.

I totally thought Baldur's Gate 3 was releasing in September too so...awesome surprise today  :twirl:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 03, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
C'mon....someone tell us their initial impressions!! I'm afraid to click the "buy" button, but I wanna!  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 03, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
^I did already, installed and optimized it  :tophat:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 03, 2023, 03:57:47 PM
I'm hearing that there are quite a few bugs but Larian should be squashing them pretty quickly
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 03, 2023, 09:31:08 PM
Minsc says, 'Squash bugs. But DOOON'T step on my hampster'!  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 03, 2023, 09:52:11 PM
This game delivers on the junk customization.  That's for sure!

In all seriousness, game is absolutely excellent.  I'm early on but this already feels like one of the best CRPGs I've ever played, and it really nails the wacky antics you can get into in a DND session (though you can play the game more seriously as well)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 04, 2023, 06:49:50 AM
Won't be able to really play until the weekend, but I did see they excluded the ability to multi-class (allowing for more than one class on your character) from the exploratory difficulty setting, which is the easiest mode.  In these games I typically play the easiest because I am just not great at them, plus hearing BG3 can be difficult on the other modes.  Not sure if this is a big deal or not, but just a shame when features are removed under certain conditions or hidden behind unlocks.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 08:10:51 AM
^Thanks for posting that. I've had my ass kicked in Larian's Divinity games, so maybe I should take heed of what you posted and go for the 'exploratory' setting.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 04, 2023, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 08:10:51 AM^Thanks for posting that. I've had my ass kicked in Larian's Divinity games, so maybe I should take heed of what you posted and go for the 'exploratory' setting.

A strong bet that I will be playing on that mode:)  But before I start, I want to do more research on how much I would miss by not having multi-classes as an option and whether there are any other limitations besides being easier.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 09:23:43 AM
I don't think I have played anything on the easiest mode just out of sheer shame  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 09:36:15 AM
Someone posted on the main Larian forums (which my account has been deactivated, not sure why) that you can switch between difficulty settings so you can multi class on the easier level. Sorry, that's vague, but since I can't log onto their forums that's the best I can do.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 04, 2023, 10:13:52 AM
Quote from: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 09:36:15 AMSomeone posted on the main Larian forums (which my account has been deactivated, not sure why) that you can switch between difficulty settings so you can multi class on the easier level. Sorry, that's vague, but since I can't log onto their forums that's the best I can do.

Great if you can, but would need to find the details as I haven't come across it yet.  Appreciate the heads up.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 10:27:31 AM
Also, it looks like the Larian website is pretty taxed so a lot of people cannot log onto their forums (hence the account deactivated message)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Geezer on August 04, 2023, 10:45:17 AM
Resistance was futile.  Downloading now.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 10:52:15 AM
 :emporerslightning: YES
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 10:59:46 AM
Yea, I'm not sure why I'm holding off buying this. It's not going to be discounted for many many months and while there are some bugs/performance issues, I'm not sure they are game breaking. Something just nagging me about buying it right now  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 11:04:52 AM
DO IT  :ninjameditate:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Geezer on August 04, 2023, 12:03:11 PM
Two hours into the download and it's only a little over half done.   :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: glen55 on August 04, 2023, 12:51:03 PM
I just played about half an hour last night. I didn't love the way it starts. You start out in kind of an odd, Diablo-looking place--I won't give more spoilers--but I didn't fully understand what was going on, who I was or where I was, and it turns out you have to fight quite a bit to get out if that mysterious place, if you even can which I wouldn't know because I got my butt handed to me after about 20 minutes of grinding combat.

So I will try easy mode, I guess, but I prefer being a bit more grounded in place, time and circumstances fairly early on or at least being given some excuse like I have amnesia or what not.

It looked great, though, and I like the turn-based interface. Everything seems quite slick.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 03:13:48 PM
Ok, BG3 has killed the Steam forums for me. I've never experienced such a toxic, childish, attention seeking group of assclowns in my entire life (yes, I know steam forums are shit, but damn......)

Larian forums are down too, so I'm going to hope some more of you kind folks say a few things before I take the plunge into the darkside  :tie1:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 04, 2023, 03:16:16 PM
Not sure anything we can say will change your decision, too big of a game to provide a lot of meaningful feedback so early.  Could always buy and try and return if under 2 hours.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 04, 2023, 03:16:16 PMNot sure anything we can say will change your decision, too big of a game to provide a lot of meaningful feedback so early.  Could always buy and try and return if under 2 hours.

it's more an issue of I'm tired of overpaying for overhyped and buggy games. I'll just lurk and strike when the time is right  :azn:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: jamus34 on August 04, 2023, 03:42:01 PM
My opinion not owning the game but from things I've heard.

There's going to be bugs (unavoidable with a game this size)

And if you like either the general D&D format or Larian games this is a must buy.

Just my $.02
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 04, 2023, 05:55:05 PM
Bought it.....I'm so weak  :Loser:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 04, 2023, 06:11:59 PM
 :Dreamer:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on August 05, 2023, 03:37:08 AM
Quote from: glen55 on August 04, 2023, 12:51:03 PMI just played about half an hour last night. I didn't love the way it starts. You start out in kind of an odd, Diablo-looking place--I won't give more spoilers--but I didn't fully understand what was going on, who I was or where I was, and it turns out you have to fight quite a bit to get out if that mysterious place, if you even can which I wouldn't know because I got my butt handed to me after about 20 minutes of grinding combat.

Is this the battle where the Mind Flayer is battling against Imps and an enemy named Commander Zhalk ?

Spoiler :


You'll need to bypass the Mind Flayer as he's far too strong (leave him to Zhalk) - The game hints you to ignore the battle and head directly to the helm.


Didn't find how to hide the spoiler text so I made it a bit difficult to read.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 05, 2023, 09:43:08 AM
I'm hanging around to see who's going to be first to admit they had sex with a bear? I'm thinking it's gonna be.....Hmmm?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 05, 2023, 11:01:28 AM
Oh, it will be Gus, no doubt

Have about an hour in and I can see why there has been so many positive things said about this game. I really hope they allow mods or DLC's (which I heard they aren't, but I can hope). No bugs so far.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 05, 2023, 10:27:35 PM
Quote from: Geezer on August 04, 2023, 12:03:11 PMTwo hours into the download and it's only a little over half done.   :knuppel2:

This is what work and church are for.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 05, 2023, 10:28:33 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on August 05, 2023, 03:37:08 AMDidn't find how to hide the spoiler text so I made it a bit difficult to read.

Spoiler functionality was removed in the migration to the new engine. You've got the best altnerative I've seen so far.  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: DetCord on August 06, 2023, 12:11:13 AM
People are saying this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and I understand it's depth is making AAA pubs poop their pants, but what are the opinions of those that are fairly deep into it?
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 06, 2023, 06:10:39 AM
Bought this thing at 6.30am and five hours later it finally finished downloading. Jeez I think my John Tiller Panzer Campaign games take less than a minute  :laugh:

No idea when I will get time to really get stuck into it but when I do I will definitely clear the decks of all other gaming and put my PBEM's on hold.

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 06, 2023, 07:22:46 AM
Quote from: devoncop on August 06, 2023, 06:10:39 AMBought this thing at 6.30am and five hours later it finally finished downloading. Jeez I think my John Tiller Panzer Campaign games take less than a minute  :laugh:

~400MB file size compared to ~122GB file size will do that to you:)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 06, 2023, 01:03:47 PM



~400MB file size compared to ~122GB file size will do that to you:)
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Stop being rational.

I don't come on to Grogheads for rationality. Much more of that sort of behaviour and you'll be banned  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 06, 2023, 01:31:46 PM
^Speaking of which, about the bear...
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 06, 2023, 02:42:49 PM
Uh Oh. She didn't call you back this morning? OK Guys, what's the toughest opponent you've faced so far? Lots of Goblins I bet. Undead? Golems? Maybe something unexpected?
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 06, 2023, 09:55:40 PM
Fuck those harpies.....fuck them
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 06, 2023, 10:32:10 PM
Harpies you say? Now that sounds unexpected.  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 07, 2023, 12:27:31 AM
Quote from: acctingman on August 06, 2023, 09:55:40 PMFuck those harpies.....fuck them

Don't mind if I do.   :evil:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 07, 2023, 08:15:07 AM
Ah, so THOSE kinds of harpies.  :evil:

Come to think of it, isn't one of the main available characters in a succubus relationship? He-and-she were once part of the main art for the game, back during early access, though they've been demoted so much in current promotional artwork I thought I had mis-remembered them from another game.

It would be kind of hilarious to put that edgy couple in the goofy whimsical plotlines (like the tea party with the giant badger).
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: glen55 on August 07, 2023, 09:00:06 AM
It keeps crashing on me. There was a hotfix for crashing over the weekend but it didn't work for me. Probably 6-8 times now, and the longest I've been able to play without crashing is about 10 minutes.

I'm putting it away until either this gets eased or I get a new box.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Rayfer on August 07, 2023, 09:20:10 AM
I played BG1 and 2 and will probably get this some time in the future.  Just curious...do you start out as a level 1 character or something higher? 
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: glen55 on August 07, 2023, 09:40:11 AM
Level 1.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 07, 2023, 10:12:02 AM
"Level up tight and steady..." whispers the succubus to that character whoever he is.  :kiss:

(There was a humorous video-game parody music video some years ago called "I win at sex", from which that line comes, no pun originally intended, but I don't recommend searching youtube for it now -- it doesn't seem to exist anymore for one thing.  :buck2: )
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 07, 2023, 10:23:06 AM
 :grin:  She'd probably tell me, "Save early and save often Darling. Just in case you can't complete the mission". And she'd probably be right.  :doh:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 07, 2023, 11:17:34 AM
Still getting off the Nautilus but already loving the production values which blow away any comparable RPG's. I have wimped out and am playing on "story mode" as a first run. I have every confidence I will get stomped nonetheless.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 07, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
Damn - if you have to play at story level that does not bode well for me.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 07, 2023, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: Gusington on August 07, 2023, 11:35:40 AMDamn - if you have to play at story level that does not bode well for me.

I haven't tried any other level yet Gus. It can be altered in game so if it is too much of a cakewalk (it won't be) I can up the difficulty. Just wanted to enjoy the character driven story without stressing to much until I get comfortable with the UI.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 07, 2023, 11:59:18 AM
Already went story mode in an early fight. Easy enough to switch difficulty modes. I agree, the production value is top shelf.

I've heard there won't be any DLC's but I hope the modding community has fun with this one.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on August 07, 2023, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: Gusington on August 07, 2023, 11:35:40 AMDamn - if you have to play at story level that does not bode well for me.

I don't consider myself an RPG specialist and I manage on normal mode.

Save often and when you fail just reload to try a new approach (or to have a bit more luck with the dice).


https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3/Larian-tips

Worry less about closing out quests and winning fights, and instead focus on exploring, toying with the tools & systems, remembering to take it slow and trust the dice.

Many Baldur's Gate 3 quests are interlinked and not about completing them a specific way, as such, but instead exploring and finding solutions that don't have waypoints.
If you have a quest like "help the goblins kill a grove of refugees," for example, you don't have to do that, and can instead complete the quest with a more creative, or antithetical, solution.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 07, 2023, 03:12:14 PM
Got off the Nautilus. Met Shadowheart on the beach.  Lusting after her already.

I am very shallow.

Great game so far.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 07, 2023, 05:45:34 PM
 :Dreamer:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 07, 2023, 09:56:54 PM
You say, 'shallow' like it's a bad thing Devon. If you're in over your head, shallow maybe just what you need. A very insightful Fortune Cookie told me that once.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 08, 2023, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on August 07, 2023, 09:56:54 PMYou say, 'shallow' like it's a bad thing Devon. If you're in over your head, shallow maybe just what you need. A very insightful Fortune Cookie told me that once.  :lipsrsealed:

Over my head should be my epitaph so I like the cut of your jib there Sir :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 08, 2023, 10:23:10 AM
Sometimes in PPG games I like playing a total shit character, betraying my friends and stealing everything I can get my hands on (Skyrim). But then I usually feel guilty about it and stop. Something about a cat stuck in a tree I can't help but rescue it.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Con on August 08, 2023, 10:42:38 AM
My plan to buy a new PC this summer was put on hold to buy a new Primo Smoker grill for our vacation home instead (lumps of smoky meat goodness take precedence over PCs)
I do have a PS5 where I finished playing Cyberpunk on with all the bells and whistles enabled and it was a blast - Do you think Baldurs Gate will translate well to console?  I hate to say it but I am beginning to use that more than the PC for gaming (when I can get my kids off it)
Con
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 08, 2023, 10:59:53 AM
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 08, 2023, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: Con on August 08, 2023, 10:42:38 AMI hate to say it but I am beginning to use that more than the PC for gaming (when I can get my kids off it)
Con

Heretical thoughts such as these go well with the "End of Times" in which we are now living.  :nono2:  :nono2: .



Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 08, 2023, 06:19:04 PM
Maybe I suck, but I'm finding at "medium" difficulty this game is hard. I've had to switch to exploration mode and I still lose a lot of fights.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Geezer on August 08, 2023, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: acctingman on August 08, 2023, 06:19:04 PMMaybe I suck, but I'm finding at "medium" difficulty this game is hard. I've had to switch to exploration mode and I still lose a lot of fights.
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Same for me too.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 08, 2023, 07:19:34 PM
 :undecided:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Geezer on August 08, 2023, 07:34:44 PM
My party walked into a room, no spoilers, and there were 15 (!) mobs in there.  We killed all but 3 or 4 before they got us.  And that was on Easy mode.   :nono2:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 08, 2023, 09:25:37 PM
Part of the difficulty is probably due to the fact that the game is somewhat open-ended and neither scales levels nor holds your hand/warns you if you're about to outmatch yourself.  The game is also significantly easier if you have a character with high Charisma and Persuasion so you can avoid massive fights as much as possible.

I'd also recommend looking up strategies for spells/characters because there's a whole ton of cool stuff you can do which isn't explicitly made clear. In many ways this game is like an ImSim a la Deus Ex. It's all about finding the cool, clever solutions to problems if you can't brute force your way through.

For example, if you hold your party back and sneak a rogue into a room and get off a solid sneak attack, the enemy party will have the "Surprised" trait which allows all your teammates to come in and get a bunch of solid surprise attacks as well. You can also do simple tricks like throwing a bottle of grease at a group of enemies, then shooting it with a fire bolt Cantrip, thus blowing up the whole area and setting multiple people on fire.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: JasonPratt on August 09, 2023, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: Geezer on August 08, 2023, 07:34:44 PMMy party walked into a room, no spoilers, and there were 15 (!) mobs in there.  We killed all but 3 or 4 before they got us.  And that was on Easy mode.   :nono2:

So Gloomhaven difficulty then.  :evil:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: jamus34 on August 09, 2023, 11:30:24 AM
So I broke down and picked it up.

In all honesty the combat feels like the Divinity Original Sin series.

I mean there are a lot of differences but using the environment was a staple of those games.

Don't want to spoil anything but early on I got into a 3 vs 2. Got wiped first two times fighting it. Third time I set fire to some fluid for some damage then blew up a container that ended up taking 2 of them out.

It makes you think about the environment and how to gain tactical advantage from it.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 09, 2023, 09:26:30 PM
Also sounds very similar to Solasta: Crown of the Magister with the use of the environment in combat, shoving enemies off cliffs, jumping, climbing, and ducking behind cover. Often enemies are in elevated positions and you have to find a path to get in range or close to melee. This game looks much more polished to be sure.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on August 10, 2023, 12:27:19 PM
Found this good guide :


It is long but I learned some helpful things I didn't know, even after many hours in the game.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on August 11, 2023, 02:14:08 PM
I haven't been around in ages, but am glad to see a lo folks were waiting for this one as much as me.  I watched some YouTube vids for some users with similar pc specs (GTX 1660 Super, Ryzen 3600, 32 GB RAM) and seems to run ok if you keep on med settings mostly.  This was my main concern (still debating about updating to a RTX 3060 or 4060 soon).  Anyone in similar boat?  Well, that and just hopping on Diablo 4 last month :)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Geezer on August 11, 2023, 02:24:20 PM
I have an RTX 2080 Super with most game settings on Ultra and it runs fine for me.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 11, 2023, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: endfire79 on August 11, 2023, 02:14:08 PMI haven't been around in ages, but am glad to see a lo folks were waiting for this one as much as me.  I watched some YouTube vids for some users with similar pc specs (GTX 1660 Super, Ryzen 3600, 32 GB RAM) and seems to run ok if you keep on med settings mostly.  This was my main concern (still debating about updating to a RTX 3060 or 4060 soon).  Anyone in similar boat?  Well, that and just hopping on Diablo 4 last month :)

I have only an 1080ti and have had no issues so far, graphics look fine to me.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 11, 2023, 04:17:39 PM
Holy crap, where the hell have you been Endfire??
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 11, 2023, 04:27:44 PM
It says right there in his sig that he'll return before you can say "antidisestablishmentarianism."
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 11, 2023, 04:30:41 PM
That's when, not where...
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on August 11, 2023, 05:18:39 PM
:ROFL:  I'm glad someone caught that quote!

Have just been busy with family stuff, work and helping with my son's Little League baseball this summer.  Finally managed a vacation out of country after the Covid years (Paris, Brittany France and London UK).

As Con was mentioning, I too had to get some console time going.  These days been I've been doing a lot of gaming on Switch with my son (guiding him through Zelda Breath of the Wild and FIFA). Using a gamepad is a big relief for me on some titles now on PC, especially after using keyboard all day for work.

Good to see folks still around online!

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 11, 2023, 05:28:52 PM
Welcome back. Stay a while...
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on August 11, 2023, 08:10:51 PM
...stay forever!

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on August 11, 2023, 08:34:04 PM
 :Dreamer:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 11, 2023, 09:40:02 PM
Damn! Endfire is back? Well Hell, I'm glad I got up from my nap now. I can't remember, did we have a wake for him or not? Anyway, great to hear from you again Bro.  :ThumbsUp: And just in time. Did I see in a video that at Character Creation you have 3-4 choices what penis your character has?  :shocked:   I guess you can really choose between Elf and, 'Half' Elf then.  :ROFL: Careful Endgame, those pretzels at the bar are left-over from last time you were here.  :cool:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 11, 2023, 09:41:38 PM
End-'FIRE'. Sorry. See what happens when you eat those pretzels.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on August 11, 2023, 10:28:15 PM
The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated!  Thanks, it's all good.  I've braved the character creation of Cyberpunk 2077.  How bad could it be?  You roll a d20 and expect a bastard sword, but you get 1 (pen knife).  It's not the size that counts, it's how you use it :)

I gotta catch up on D&D 5th edition - I'm still stuck in the AD&D 2, 3.5 way of thought and theory.  I've heard things have been simplified a lot more which sounds good.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 23, 2023, 06:30:30 PM
Much as I'm enjoying the game for the story, skill checks, character stuff, etc -- I'm finding the combat extremely tedious.  I can't really put my finger on why except that the battle areas always feel very narrow and limited and full of choke points.  Not to any time you start a fight out of dialogue, your whole party is clumped way in the back with no chance to adjust them, and your leading guy is just taking a bunch of hits.  I've just started savescumming fights to get as many advantages as possible because otherwise I'm constantly running out of health/spells and having to rest up.

Great game overall, and maybe others feel differently.  I do enjoy the amount of options you have in combat, plus stealth and sneak-attacking people is satisfying.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on August 23, 2023, 10:08:27 PM
I was loving the game the first week I bought it, but I haven't played it in several days with no desire to jump back in. Nice game, but over hyped.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 23, 2023, 10:17:36 PM
Thanks guys. Holding-out for more opinions.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: glen55 on August 24, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
I'm having constant crashes. I'm putting it away until either it's in a better state or I have a better box, most likely the latter.

Before I quit, I was getting frustrated with combat. And a couple of hours in, I still didn't really know who I was or where I was.

It's sure snazzy and has a great turn-based interface, despite the camera limitations. I'm sure I'll give it another shot at some point, but at this point it's almost as if quitting because of crashes kept me from quitting from frustration and boredom.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 24, 2023, 07:38:29 PM
It seems like the game needed at least a few more months in Early Access, maybe even another year. I'm reading the third act is fairly bare bones compared to the early sections which got a lot of love in Early Access. The ending is apparently fairly abrupt and doesn't actually acknowledge the choices you made as was promised pre release.  No "17,000 variations" or whatever crazy number they said.  I read a lot of this stuff was left on the cutting room floor, and presumably they plan to finish the ending and add all that stuff, but it's a bit odd that they removed the Early Access label if that's the case.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on August 24, 2023, 09:41:12 PM
Yoda says, "Discouraging this news is and becoming more hesitant I am".
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: CaptainKoloth on August 25, 2023, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on August 24, 2023, 07:38:29 PMIt seems like the game needed at least a few more months in Early Access, maybe even another year. I'm reading the third act is fairly bare bones compared to the early sections which got a lot of love in Early Access. The ending is apparently fairly abrupt and doesn't actually acknowledge the choices you made as was promised pre release.  No "17,000 variations" or whatever crazy number they said.  I read a lot of this stuff was left on the cutting room floor, and presumably they plan to finish the ending and add all that stuff, but it's a bit odd that they removed the Early Access label if that's the case.

One of the things I have noticed as I get older and grumpier is that I think a lot of reviewers play games for maybe an hour tops. Late game issues, balance issues, bugs- they miss most of it. As long as a game is sufficiently whiz-bang to hold a millennial reviewers attention until they get distracted by the next TikTok video, it can get a near-perfect score even if the game has gaping issues with later content or stability. Not that this is a new issue, mind you- in hindsight if you go back and look at a lot of 90s gaming magazines I now frequently have cause to wonder if the reviewers actually played the game they were writing about in numerous instances.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: FarAway Sooner on August 25, 2023, 12:15:34 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on August 24, 2023, 09:41:12 PMYoda says, "Discouraging this news is and becoming more hesitant I am".

Dude, "and" Yoda uses not.  Periods he uses. 

Otherwise, your channeling of him gets an A+!     :martini:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on August 25, 2023, 12:27:21 PM
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3669924544085723479

Hello everyone,

Today we're releasing our first major patch for Baldur's Gate 3, addressing over 1000 bugs, balancing, flow issues and much, much more.


I want to add that so far I have spend around 36 hours in this game (I'm still in act 1) and haven't encountered crashes or any major bugs.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: devoncop on August 25, 2023, 12:30:57 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on August 25, 2023, 12:27:21 PMhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3669924544085723479

Hello everyone,

Today we're releasing our first major patch for Baldur's Gate 3, addressing over 1000 bugs, balancing, flow issues and much, much more.


I want to add that so far I have spend around 36 hours in this game (I'm still in act 1) and haven't encountered crashes or any major bugs.

+1 to no bugs.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Con on August 25, 2023, 12:57:28 PM
I am watching this intently with the idea to buy it in the PS5 when it launches. On the bugs crashes and contents I overwhelmingly hear only good things so was a bit surprised to hear your take on it. Still think it will be a day one buy for me.
I have gone completely to the dark side for all my non wargaming games I am firmly going console now.
Great graphics hooked to a 70 inch gaming tv with a comfortable couch in a Phillips hue smart light game cave
Con
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: jamus34 on August 26, 2023, 12:18:37 PM
I had one bug that I couldn't use a ladder after using a certain spell but beyond that I think the issue I am having has to due with the forced driver upgrade. Been getting white screen flashes ever since updating on multiple games / programs.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on August 27, 2023, 10:57:40 PM
Having played this in co-op with a friend, I can say that the combat really shines in multiplayer while the story itself works better in single player.  It's a bit annoying having whoever happens to be in front take lead on story beats, especially if you're trying to let a friend experience the story and make choices.

The combat is still a little tedious and honestly my least favorite aspect of the game, since it seems to just mainly involve chipping away at HP sponges.  But the game rewards creativity in a way that would probably qualify it as an "immersive sim" along with the likes of Deus Ex.  And that said, the animations and sound effects are A+ and it's extremely satisfying when you land a crit.  The amount of ways you can approach problems, and the number of ways characters actually react to you, is just staggering.

I feel bad if my last post discouraged people, the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the game is absolutely excellent, but it drops off a bit at the end and might be worth playing on easy mode if you don't like tedious combat.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on August 30, 2023, 10:17:20 PM
Here's my current character (Nymeria, Seldarine Drow Rogue, Haunted One)

I play mostly with an xbox gamepad on PC.  I'm getting the hang of menu via controller and find it easier to move around the map with it than with KB/mouse.  Pretty fun so far with Shadowheart, Lae'zel, Karlach in my group.  Trying out Gale as party caster but very fragile.

Drow rogue.png
Drow rogue 2.png
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on September 01, 2023, 10:24:21 AM
Oooh...I love a woman with scars. And she looks like she could give some as well.  :Dreamer:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on September 01, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
The character creator is pretty awesome and I've seen some pretty great creations.  I do wish Starfield's character creator was as impressive.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on September 03, 2023, 02:48:44 AM
It took me about fifty tries to get a Gnome Bard the way I wanted him, but between the glorious moustache and the fortuitous outfit, I've found my little fella.

This is Boldwin the Brave, level 3 Forest Gnome Bard.  I more-or-less named him after Brave Sir Robin, so it's fitting I managed to find both a hat and outfit that matches those colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/UyrEY8H.jpg)

I might upload more pictures tomorrow when I'm feeling more energized and less tipsy.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on September 03, 2023, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 01, 2023, 10:24:21 AMOooh...I love a woman with scars. And she looks like she could give some as well.  :Dreamer:

Heh definitely.  I figured a Drow rogue would not have had it easy in Faerun overworld.  There was something about Astarion that annoyed me at first, but I think his voice actor did a good job.  I just wanted to be the rogue this first playthrough. As compensation, I did let Astie nip me (annual blood donation + hack eye surgery by Volo - CHECK). 



Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: endfire79 on September 03, 2023, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on September 03, 2023, 02:48:44 AMIt took me about fifty tries to get a Gnome Bard the way I wanted him, but between the glorious moustache and the fortuitous outfit, I've found my little fella.

This is Boldwin the Brave, level 3 Forest Gnome Bard.  I more-or-less named him after Brave Sir Robin, so it's fitting I managed to find both a hat and outfit that matches those colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/UyrEY8H.jpg)

I might upload more pictures tomorrow when I'm feeling more energized and less tipsy.


Well done!  I like that moustache - reminds me of Snidely Whiplash from Dudley Do Wright.  Gnomes and dwarves should be get into those little crevasses scattered all over.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on September 03, 2023, 10:17:59 PM
He looks much classier than the ones hanging-out by my birdbath in the backyard. Well Met Boldwin the Brave!  :shakehands:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on September 04, 2023, 06:24:06 PM
Here's some better screenies!  Took me a while to figure out you can hit the F10 key to hide the GUI.

(https://i.imgur.com/hfNuFsW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vDW845X.jpg)
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 04, 2023, 07:35:14 PM
^He looks like...Ben Stiller?
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on September 04, 2023, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 04, 2023, 07:35:14 PM^He looks like...Ben Stiller?

Haha, I didn't think about that but you're right.  Ben Stiller with a big ol' stache, long hair, and a gnomish build.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 04, 2023, 08:35:50 PM
 :Dreamer: 'gnomish build' hahaha
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on September 04, 2023, 10:25:08 PM
I bet that's not what the girls say about him Gus.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 05, 2023, 07:58:46 PM
Who the gnome or Ben?
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on September 05, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
The gnome Gus, he looks like he can handle himself pretty well. Stiller I don't know about.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 07:10:07 AM
I have faith in both.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Toonces on September 06, 2023, 07:31:57 AM
That's really a great creation Al!
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 07:50:15 AM
How many of you fellers are playing on the 'easy storytelling' mode? I am soon starting a game and want to gauge how difficult it really is. The interwebs go either way.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on September 06, 2023, 08:51:06 AM
Balanced.  Just don't forget to save often and don't count on autosave.

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: acctingman on September 06, 2023, 09:44:32 AM
I'm using the noob level and still get my ass handed to me.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 09:47:10 AM
^The last two posts are exactly what I have been reading across the interwebs  :twirl:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Sir Slash on September 06, 2023, 10:21:20 AM
I asked Minsc and all he would say is, "Evil round every corner. Careful not to step in any". I don't know if that helps or not.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on September 06, 2023, 10:29:47 AM
Quote from: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 09:47:10 AM^The last two posts are exactly what I have been reading across the interwebs  :twirl:

You can change the difficulty level at any moment.

At balanced I do lose some battles, but usually 1 restart is enough.

Examine the enemies resistances and vulnerabilities and change your weapons to something that does more damage. 
E.g. There is a boss fight you will have a hard time to win unless your team uses bludgeoning weapons (his only real weakness).
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 11:25:46 AM
Thanks Pete.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: al_infierno on September 06, 2023, 01:52:22 PM
It also helps to use environmental stuff to your advantage.  You'll find grease bottles all over the world, grab em any time you can - they're basically medieval Molotov cocktails.  Throw one down in the middle of a group of enemies, then use a free Fire Cantrip to light them up.  Great way to chip down a bunch of them at the same time.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2023, 02:19:53 PM
Thanks al  :RockOn:
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Pete Dero on April 16, 2025, 04:43:36 AM
The Final Patch : New Subclasses, Photo Mode, and Cross-Play

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/538849539213231622

Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Rayfer on April 16, 2025, 06:21:56 AM
This update #8 is a mess for those of us using mods. I had to go back to #7 to continue an ongoing late game campaign. I'm sure they will sort it out and fix the issues but think twice before you upgrade to #8.
Title: Re: Baldur's Gate 3
Post by: Redwolf on April 16, 2025, 06:51:23 AM
Quote from: Rayfer on April 16, 2025, 06:21:56 AMThis update #8 is a mess for those of us using mods. I had to go back to #7 to continue an ongoing late game campaign. I'm sure they will sort it out and fix the issues but think twice before you upgrade to #8.

Not that we Steam users have a choice...