Today is release day for Shogun reboot. This is a new mini-series of the novel "Shogun" by James Clavell. The previous mini-series was released in 1980.
I am kind of, sort of, looking forward to this. Clavell took too much artistic license with Japanese history for my taste. But if the series is good, I could be turned. My wife is stoked however. Anyway, will get started on it this evening.
I'm looking forward to it. I just hope that they don't do the usual Disney thing and beat us over the head with "the message".
Also looking forward to it. I love the book, never saw the original series.
Watched both released episodes this morning on Hulu. Enjoying it so far, been awhile since I watched past Shogun material so can't really compare it.
My wife and I really liked it as well. Much better than the original series IMHO. Perhaps because this time the producer is Japanese. It feels more authentic (despite having been filmed in Canada).
My only complaint now is that I have to wait another week to see the next episode.
I watched the first episode and I'm pleasantly surprised. Seems very good so far. (And boobs!)
I appreciate that they're speaking Japanese in the polite keigo form even though I find it hard to understand at times.
I remember watching the original miniseries in social studies class in junior high and being shocked by the piss scene. Good to see it recreated here as well.
They've definitely toned down the racism espoused by both the Europeans and the Japanese in the book and original series and replaced it with sectarianism instead.
My only quibbles are minor. Some of the samurai retainers seem a little rolly-polly and, seeing as how they filmed parts of it near here, a few scenes take me out of the story because I recognize the area.
^Was waiting to see what you thought...this bodes well.
How do you say 'boobs' in Japanese?
:ninjameditate:
Oppai おっぱい
if you wanna be more polite, you can say:
mune 胸 which is more like bosom or chest.
if you wanna use cheeseball slang, you can say:
pai-otsu ぱいおつ It's kind of like pig-Latin in Japanese where you put the last syllable of a word first.
I'll go with mune :deathstar: :deathstar:
Nah, oppai is fine. The Japanese are way more open to talking about boobs than we are. Drunken Japanese girls are always grabbing each other's boobs.
The Wife could be empress there, I believe.
Oppai!!! :Party:
God damn, episode 9 was awesome. This whole series has been truly excellent.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 02:07:24 AMGod damn, episode 9 was awesome. This whole series has been truly excellent.
+1
Any theories on what Toranaga is planning?
Battle of Sekigahara.
Yeah. Toranaga is Tokugawa. Ishido is Ishida Mitsunari. Yabushige is Honda Masanobu, I think.
Yeah, so because of this show, this is happening on Saturday.
Hmm...
Are they going to make season 2? Compared to the 80s series, this one ended in an odd place.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 23, 2024, 09:11:32 PMHmm...
Are they going to make season 2? Compared to the 80s series, this one ended in an odd place.
I agree, it did seem to be left in an oddly open place.
Overall, I thought the series was brilliant!
It certainly doesn't appear there will be a season 2...
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a60373634/shogun-season-2-cast-news/ (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a60373634/shogun-season-2-cast-news/)
Yeah....
Lame. I wanted to see some hot English cannon vs yari ashigaru action.
:cannon:
Sexy
I only recently had an opportunity to sit this through in earnest. It is hard to believe how much better than the average show is. Truly good.
The only nitpick I have is that some of the actors were looking too similar to each other. Even knowing the general story it could get a little confusing in the beginning.
It is too bad that this is probably going the way of the Firefly with no second season. But then there was no second book either.
Quote from: Redwolf on October 14, 2024, 08:00:36 AMI only recently had an opportunity to sit this through in earnest. I is hard to believe how much better than the average show is. Truly good.
The only nitpick I have is that some of the actors were looking too similar to each other. Even knowing the general story it could get a little confusing in the beginning.
It is too bad that this is probably going the way of the Firefly with no second season. But then there was no second book either.
Second season was confirmed and so was a third.
I thought it was great with the exception of most of the dialog being in Japanese requiring one to read very fast to keep up. Especially hard when lots of Hawt Geishas are in the shot.
Quote from: Redwolf on October 14, 2024, 08:00:36 AMIt is too bad that this is probably going the way of the Firefly with no second season. But then there was no second book either.
One of the writers joked that 2nd season would have Yabushige on a London pub crawl... I guess he was joking because Yabushige commits seppuku in the first season... :Dreamer:
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 14, 2024, 08:57:20 AMQuote from: Redwolf on October 14, 2024, 08:00:36 AMI only recently had an opportunity to sit this through in earnest. I is hard to believe how much better than the average show is. Truly good.
The only nitpick I have is that some of the actors were looking too similar to each other. Even knowing the general story it could get a little confusing in the beginning.
It is too bad that this is probably going the way of the Firefly with no second season. But then there was no second book either.
Second season was confirmed and so was a third.
Oh. That makes me happy to hear. I had only spotted pessimistic snippets before.
Great little video essay analyzing the use of violence in Shogun:
I have to say I don't want to get Disney just to watch this and I refuse to get it again after they ruined star wars. I think I might be able to get it on Apple TV? Is FX who made Shogun in any way related directly to Disney or did they just buy the show?
I would not have bothered to look at anything on Disney+, but you guys are saying it's so good.
This is a site I use to find out where a movie or show is available :
https://www.justwatch.com/us
I use justwatch.com, too.
Shogun 2024 is only on Hulu.
Over here it is only on Disney+. I guess it is not out on DVD (yet).
Can you sign up for a free trial then cancel after binging on Shogun?
And yes, it's worth it.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 23, 2025, 12:18:57 PMCan you sign up for a free trial then cancel after binging on Shogun?
And yes, it's worth it.
Could try that. Good suggestion actually.
Can I also ask whether this is on the same level for smutt as Game of Thrones. If so I will give it a miss. I am not a fan of love stories or even pron injected into unrelated stories where possible.
Nope. Two nude scenes as far as I can recall.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 25, 2025, 01:30:54 AMNope. Two nude scenes as far as I can recall.
Perfecto. Artists that know their stuff should not need smutt.