https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/15/us/drone-sightings-east-coast/index.html
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Mysterious flying objects overhead. Concern and confusion. And calls for military intervention.
This isn't the plot of "War of the Worlds," but rather the result of numerous unidentified drone sightings on the East Coast in recent weeks. The drones have been spotted over residential neighborhoods, restricted sites, and critical infrastructure.
The sightings have put intense pressure on federal agencies to provide more information about the aircraft, as officials have urged calm and emphasized there is no evidence suggesting the sightings pose a security threat.
I've been hearing and reading rumblings about this for awhile but haven't seen too much heavy coverage... this is the first time I've seen it headlined on a major news network (but my net is fairly small).
Either way... what the hell is up with this?! My guess is it's some type of AI drone defense system the Navy is developing that either got out-of-hand or something unexpected happened and they aren't sure how to stop it. Or maybe it's just "routine" testing. Seems like somebody would come out and just say something...
Anybody in position right now to answer this:
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My hunch is that the Government or military is conducting tests on using drones as a platform for radioactivity scanning.
I'm very close to ground zero on this so I've been doing a lot of research.
This is why I asked here. :Nerd: :peace: :beermug[1]:
https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/don-t-approach-downed-drones-call-bomb-squad-nj-says (https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/don-t-approach-downed-drones-call-bomb-squad-nj-says)
The question is, why would first responders need to be wearing full PPE in order to approach downed drones?
https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/drones-fly-low-and-slow-radiation-detection (https://www.pnnl.gov/news-media/drones-fly-low-and-slow-radiation-detection)
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/now-available-new-drone-technology-for-radiological-monitoring-in-emergency-situations (https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/now-available-new-drone-technology-for-radiological-monitoring-in-emergency-situations)
It's interesting to me the location it's happening. I remember about 12 years ago being in Hawaii for a wedding and I saw this crazy streak pattern in the sky and I found out the next day it was some kind of missile or missile defense test. That makes sense conducting tests out far where not a huge number of people will see it first-hand (although with social media these days...) but why New Jersey and around there? I guess maybe they've already done the Hawaii tests and are closer to primetime?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2024, 10:53:11 AMhttps://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/don-t-approach-downed-drones-call-bomb-squad-nj-says (https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/don-t-approach-downed-drones-call-bomb-squad-nj-says)
The question is, why would first responders need to be wearing full PPE in order to approach downed drones?
Whoa.
Quote"This is a law enforcement incident, extinguish any fire and secure the perimeter," the bulletin reads. "Be aware that electronic devices and two-way radio systems may malfunction in the immediate area."
Quote from: DesertFox on December 15, 2024, 10:55:35 AMIt's interesting to me the location it's happening. I remember about 12 years ago being in Hawaii for a wedding and I saw this crazy streak pattern in the sky and I found out the next day it was some kind of missile or missile defense test. That makes sense conducting tests out far where not a huge number of people will see it first-hand (although with social media these days...) but why New Jersey and around there? I guess maybe they've already done the Hawaii tests and are closer to primetime?
The drones are operating over and around the Picatinny Arsenal, Earle Naval Weapons Station, the Salem Nuclear Power Plant and the adjacent Hope Creek Generating Station. All facilities that have nuclear weapons and or radioactive elements.
Regardless of the purpose, there isn't anything clandestine about these aircraft/drones. They are lit up and easy to spot. It is hard to conclude that there could be anything nefarious about them. The government makes it worse by refusing to acknowledge who is operating them and what purpose for which they are being operated. It is causing fear, conspiracy theories and anxiety. People are starting to get angry and they are therefore overreacting.
Many of the footage I've seen just look like airplanes on approach to me.
I live rather close to Brussels airport and I see these rather often.
When the plane is on approach their lights seem to hang in place.
Once these sightings get reported by the media, more people look up and more people see things.
Some might be drones, but if I wanted to keep something secret I wouldn't put up that many lights on it.
It reminds me of the increase of UFO sightings when Venus is visible.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2024, 11:03:30 AMRegardless of the purpose, there isn't anything clandestine about these aircraft/drones. They are lit up and easy to spot. It is hard to conclude that there could be anything nefarious about them. The government makes it worse by refusing to acknowledge who is operating them and what purpose for which they are being operated. It is causing fear, conspiracy theories and anxiety. People are starting to get angry and they are therefore overreacting.
Yeah I definitely wasn't trying to imply there is anything nefarious or shady going on here, I'm just trying to figure out why the hell there's stuff flying over sensitive areas of our country and nobody in an official position is giving answers to it. Actually that's a stupid question. I'm just trying to find out what's going on and make sure there's no danger or anything. Which could easily be solved with a public statement of some sort.
Quote from: Pete Dero on December 15, 2024, 11:08:25 AMMany of the footage I've seen just look like airplanes on approach to me.
I live rather close to Brussels airport and I see these rather often.
When the plane is on approach their lights seem to hang in place.
Once these sightings get reported by the media, more people look up and more people see things.
Some might be drones, but if I wanted to keep something secret I wouldn't put up that many lights on it.
It reminds me of the increase of UFO sightings when Venus is visible.
Some are manned aircraft for sure. Many are drones though. I've seen them with my own eyes. I know the difference.
Ward is doing a live stream right now.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2024, 11:12:05 AMSome are manned aircraft for sure. Many are drones though. I've seen them with my own eyes. I know the difference.
That's cool that you live close enough around there to have eyewitness footage. Some of the footage I've seen online is wild but it's really hard to tell between what's real and fake (in some cases).
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 15, 2024, 11:14:00 AMWard is doing a live stream right now.
Never seen him before but this is my kinda guy... Les Paul and Marshall half-stacks in the background.
This story is reminding me of the leadup to the kind of craziness in that Netflix movie with Julia Roberts where communications and society suddenly break down. This guy is mentioning stuff like "Red Cell" splinter group testing...?
It's strange if you know you're going to be doing testing like this that you don't warn people a little in advance (or have a statement ready) about the "advanced weather detection" systems you're going to be testing to the next days/weeks/months. Again I don't mean this in some shadow conspiracy kind of way, I just wonder if someone screwed up along the lines here and the responsible people just aren't sure how to react/what to report (or how to shut it off lol).
^I post Ward Carroll videos all the time. He is a former F-14 RIO. Usually has good insight and hosts great guests. Typically in the military aviation community.
Don't underestimate the ability of the military (or civilian) bureaucracy to poke themselves in the eye.
Since some people have tried to make connections occasionally: these drones are definitely NOT the kind of thing Luis Elizondo and friends have been talking about to Congress the past few years.
Many of the new drone spurts are in fact mis-identified airliners and copters, and then also commercial drones going about their business, with some details being oddly blorched due to phone cameras being unable to focus at night properly. Other recent drone swarms have been more interesting -- but still not the Elizondo style UAPs. To me it seems like the US government does know what's going on about the uptick, because they're doing it, but the uptick itself is causing more of an uptick for various reasons (like the two guys busted on Long Island near Boston Harbor Bay last night for droning too close to an airfield for the lolz or the trolololz apparently.) The two theories about the recent drones (where not otherwise explicable as usual drone and airway stuff) I like best so far are:
(a) the government is doing an exercise which has an intentional side-effect of prodding stronger congressional laws against Chinese-made drones in the US -- in other words grounding practically all drones, due to the CCP using tech in their commercial and private drones to do visual and electronic surveillance. This is a well-known problem apparently (though one I only heard about recently because I only drone during text walls :rimshotdrm: ) and past years have each seen bills attempting to pass through congress for this goal with slight increases each year in yes-votes before being shot down. The calls are already going out (as I saw this morning on the Sunday news in passing) for the next round of anti-Chinese-drone legislation to stop this problem; something the military and intelligence community would both like resolved asap.
(b) the government is doing an exercise with the intentional side-effect of reducing public concern about the weird UAP things Elizondo & Co have been reporting on for a while, by giving the public a superficially similar situation which will be resolved in a conventional manner eventually, as an object lesson not to worry about any of the weirder things if seen or experienced or heard/read about. In other words it's a counter-intelligence op.
I've been meaning to do an update post this year about the UAP government programs as reported by Elizondo's autobiography Immanent released back in early summer or late spring, which features material taken verbally from preparation for committee presentations -- I finished reading it to Mom this fall shortly before Elizondo and associates showed up in the yearly congressional hearing on the topic, and we were both amused at recognizing quotes from his own book.
Anyway the performance factors of exotic UAP being reported by military and intelligence groups over the years, especially the past decade, are VERRRRRY different from what's been seen (mostly seen and heard, including audio-visual) in NJ and elsewhere in the past month-ish so far.
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