http://news.yahoo.com/us-looking-action-against-china-cyberattacks-223446697.html
My question is what can we do back to them. The article says we need to back up the words with actions but what sort of actions?
My suggestion would be to break the Chinese Firewall hack into the news organizations servers and download all the titillating embarrassing embezzling wealth info we can find on the Chinese leaders onto these now open sites
Con
I started to read an article about how the NYT was hacked by the Chinese.
How to respond? I'm not so sure.
Their weakness is information. They fear truth. They fear history.
Nothing is perfect. Light will peep through a very small hole.
Opium?
The British did that successfully for a long time. Make sure we have a secure series of firewalls first.
Then bombard them with adds for penis enlargement devices, creams and therapies forever.
The perceived technical superiority of the West is going to get eroded pretty quick so we better
get them psychologically whipped very quickly or we are going to have to learn to speak Mandarin.
Errr...thanks Dan. I wasn't aware of the whole British connection to the opium trade. I just randomly spat the idea out.
Since you like Cracked so much, you may want to peruse #4 on this list.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-obnoxious-things-that-wont-go-away-in-2013/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-obnoxious-things-that-wont-go-away-in-2013/)
Once again, the internet weeps for the lack of sarcasm tags.
It needs a sheepish font too.
I will bet that there was a whole bunch that weren't aware of that
who will never admit it now. Sorry to step on your joke Just another defect of mine....
but My proposed solution is newer. And it is going to be about five minutes before any
technical edge we might have is gone.
Quote from: Longdan on January 31, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
I will bet that there was a whole bunch that weren't aware of that
who will never admit it now.
Man, time and time again you display that you have a very low opinion of anyone who isn't you.
You are so harsh. Its like having my Mom pop out and remind me of what an ass I am.
That is almost as mean as me except I am innocent and you are just picking on me.
You seem to have very little trouble expressing your low opinion of me personally
and taking the time to do it in public. Go and chastise some one smarter than you
for a change and allow me to wallow in my embarrassment.
I am sorry I stepped on your joke.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bbc-china-crew-detained-military-after-filming-cyber-warfare-headquarters
QuoteA BBC crew was detained and their video footage confiscated by the Chinese military during its investigations into a secretive cyber espionage group.
Beijing correspondent John Elsworthy was among those detained by military personnel following the publication of a report by US cyber security firm Mandiant claiming to have pinpointed the home of the cyber warfare unit at a "non-descript" complex in Shanghai.
Elsworthy and his crew were stopped "pretty promptly from filming" outside building, which was said to house one of the world's "most prolific cyber espionage groups", Unit 61398.
"We were stopped pretty promptly from filming," Elsworthy told the BBC. "We were briefly detained by the military personnel on the gates, taken inside the base and they refused to let us go until we had agreed to surrender our tape.
"The Reuters news agencies were able to pick up some footage, and you can see form those pictures that this is a pretty nondescript building.
"Certainly it doesn't look likely to be the nerve centre of one of the most effective and prolific cyber warfare operations ever mounted..."
According to Mandiant, Unit 61398 has "systematically stolen hundreds of terabytes of data" from at least 141 organisations around the world.
In recent weeks both the Washington Post and New York Times claim to have be subject to hacking attacks emanating from China.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/02/21/the-shanghai-army-unit-that-hacked-115-u-s-targets-likely-wasnt-even-chinas-a-team/
QuoteIn just the last week, the abbreviation APT1 has come to represent the bogeyman of digital espionage nightmares. On Monday, security response firm Mandiant released a report profiling a hacker group of that name–referring to it as Advanced Persistent Threat One–and providing detailed evidence that it represented the most active hacking unit within China's People's Liberation Army, one that's compromised more than 141 private sector and government targets in seven years, 115 of which were American.
But if APT1 is the most prolific team of hackers in the Chinese military, it's not necessarily the best. In fact, when I spoke with Richard Bejtlich, chief security officer at Mandiant and a well-known author and blogger on network security, he argued that APT1 is actually a relatively sloppy group of hackers, and that its mistakes were what part of what allowed Mandiant to profile the unit in such detail. More than a dozen more elite groups of hackers likely operate within China's military, says Bejtlich, groups that are both harder to track and harder to defend against.
I talked with Bejtlich about how APT1 measures up against other units in China's military, how groups like it can be stopped, and about the "special forces" within China's hacker corps that he says make APT1 look like amateurs. Here's an edited transcript of our conversation.
follow the link for the transcript
These guys are going to be in your bank account soon and their antics will make Wargames
look like a dumb teenage movie. They bought all the money anyway.
the Chinese will pry my porn from my cold dead internet!
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 27, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
the Chinese will pry my porn from my cold dead internet!
It is gonna be a sad day for all of us.
Dog and cat aficionados will have to watch the
Cooking Channel.
Quote from: Longdan on February 27, 2013, 09:20:58 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 27, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
the Chinese will pry my porn from my cold dead internet!
It is gonna be a sad day for all of us.
Dog and cat aficionados will have to watch the Cooking Channel.
Horsehocky.
We'll simply firewall off the nation, shut down the world's backbone, scrub the systems, and then bring them up at our pleasure.
China fears the truth more than it fears guns. That's a horrible starting position.
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.
It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
Quote from: LongBlade on February 28, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.
It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
The track record of the world against China hasn't been good.
People consistently denigrate China's abilities. This has been a mistake in the recent past.
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 28, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.
It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
The track record of the world against China hasn't been good.
People consistently denigrate China's abilities. This has been a mistake in the recent past.
There are many mistakes in the recent past....
Empires are notoriously difficult to manage as they expand, and the New Chinese Empire is no different.
Look at the problems of resentment and protest China is beginning to have with its colonial expansion into Africa, even with small nearby countries like Burma as Chinese self interest and disregard for the local society and the environment start to provide a focus of opposition. Leaving aside sovereignty issues like Tibet, Russian and Vietnamese border areas, Spratley Islands, Senkaku Islands etc, the economic imperialism of China is making few friends amongst the locals. If China pushes too hard what will be the reaction?
http://www.dvb.no/news/protests-against-controversial-chinese-copper-mine-resume/26408
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6088
http://www.thepromota.co.uk/zambia-seizes-chinese-mine-over-safety/
http://www.americasquarterly.org/do-chinese-mining-companies-exploit-more
http://allafrica.com/stories/201208010109.html
Same reaction as happened to everybody else. Soon they will join us in being hated by all the people in the third world.
Quote from: Longdan on March 01, 2013, 02:53:43 PM
Same reaction as happened to everybody else. Soon they will join us in being hated by all the people in the third world.
Exactly. History repeating itself. I wonder what the Chinese Communist Party's response is to allegations of Imperialism? Ironic or what?
I can't help but picture the Chinese Gov't/Business/PLA troika as looking like a bunch of Mob Bosses who attended a Walmart Corporate Retreat after which which the participants got both an Armani Makeover and matching Genghis Khan tattoos.