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Title: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on February 24, 2013, 09:41:57 PM
Shogun 2 is probably the best TW game to come out since Medieval 2 and I love it lots. But I suck so bad at it. After 85+ hours of play and 4 or 5 campaigns, I haven't even come close to winning a campaign. I am getting tossed around in my current Fall of the Samurai campaign by every clan on the map and barely holding on to my three provinces.

And you? What games do you love but suck at?
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MarkShot on February 24, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
Chess
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 24, 2013, 11:05:51 PM
Chivalry  I'm not terrible at it but I'm not great either.  I usually get around a 1:1 - 1.5:1 K/D ratio which is kinda sucky but I have fun doing it.


DCS A-10C Warthog.

(OK, I don't love it but I want to.  I watch videos of guys who really know how to fly it and I want to be able to do that.  So why can't I even get my GBUs to hit accurately?)

Look at this video.  It's freaking awesome!  It would take me 10 minutes just to set up for a single Maverick launch I'd I'd likely still miss.  I wonder how long it took these guys to get as proficient as they are?

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Longdan on February 24, 2013, 11:33:03 PM
I suck at any twitch game including most space ship driver games which i love.
There is this other game where you talk with women and sometimes after a while they
might sleep with you.  I suck at that one.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: RooksBailey on February 25, 2013, 01:02:29 AM
Call of Duty.  While I can hold my own in more tactical games like Battlefield 3, I just don't have the mad reflexes to wrack up the kills in such a fast shooter as CoD.  I love MW3 and BlOps 2, but I always wind up near the bottom of the rankings.   >:(


Quote from: MarkShot on February 24, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
Chess

Great!  Wanna play?   ;D
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MetalDog on February 25, 2013, 01:43:07 AM
Quote from: RooksBailey on February 25, 2013, 01:02:29 AM
Quote from: MarkShot on February 24, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
Chess

Great!  Wanna play?   ;D

Markshot is being modest, methinks.

Civ IV BTS on any level above Prince.  I still don't win often on Prince, but I've never been to the Victory Conditions for any game on Monarch yet.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: TheCommandTent on February 25, 2013, 07:36:42 AM
Most FPSs.  I am ok but can never really excel.  I enjoy them especially playing MP with friends but most of the time I am just cannon fodder.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on February 25, 2013, 07:56:28 AM
Frozen Synapse - want to love it, but im ****

MW3 - cant keep up with it, i always seem to be that 0.000025 seconds slower to the trigger than anyone else i run straight into at a corner. Was great at BFBC2 for some reason - since then its all gone sadly down hill

Sometimes CMBN, some games it all works out brilliantly and i appear to be some kind of online General of Awesomeness - sometimes, against one particulary opponent it all collapses - he kicks my ass and i have to surrender in shame
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: spelk on February 25, 2013, 08:01:59 AM
Battle of the Bulge on the iPad. I'm in love with the idea of a WWII board wargame that involves the Bulge, but playing the damn thing is so frustrating, the area activation and movement is so limiting to any "operational" manoeuvre and you need to know the map and the explicit rules throughout the time frame, even the random time based turn chunks serve to frustrate.

I was so enthusiastic about the game, but ultimately it's like playing war in a straight-jacket and if you don't take in the specifics of the ruleset OCD fashion, then there's no real way to shine in the game. It just makes me hanker after a good PC based chit shuffler, where combat and tactics play more to higher thinking and less about nit-picking special rules. Shame really.

Still, Zulus on the Ramparts is out on the iOS now, and I have plenty of "normal" chit shufflers to play on the Android for those couch General moments.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: spelk on February 25, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 25, 2013, 07:56:28 AM
Frozen Synapse - want to love it, but im ****

Oh I'd have to second undercovergeek's sentiments here also. WEGO tactical planning down at the squad level always seems to bad for me. Turn based operational seems to be the place I'm most comfortable.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Rayfer on February 25, 2013, 08:26:45 AM
Any and all flight sims I have ever tried....!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 08:34:56 AM
I am actually not bad at chess...
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: sandman2575 on February 25, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
I truly suck at chess.

I've gotten sucked into Elder Scrolls Oblivion of late.  And god am I bad at it.  My experience is one of constant wonderment at how deep and detailed the game world is, and then getting pwned by bandits and anyone who can wield spells. I really want to spend time with it, but I doubt I will ever get far because of the basic limitation:  i am awful at combat.

Not sure this is one for mouse & keyboard.   May have to finally take the plunge of getting a gamepad.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 08:58:26 AM
Combat Mission Beyond Normandy...I seem to really be struggling with this one.  No matter how cautiously I proceed, I always manage to get my formations pinned down and chewed up.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: bboyer66 on February 25, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
Has to be flight sims like the DCS Blackshark and A-10 games. You just have to invest so much time in learning how to play these games, and in Blackshark the thing is difficult as hell to fly to boot.
Think the last semi advanced flight sim that I was actually decent at was Janes F-15. Had a great time bombing Tehran and Karg Island.

  Im best at World Of Tanks being ranked in the top 3500 on the North American server.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Tuna on February 25, 2013, 09:15:06 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 24, 2013, 11:05:51 PM
Chivalry  I'm not terrible at it but I'm not great either.  I usually get around a 1:1 - 1.5:1 K/D ratio which is kinda sucky but I have fun doing it.


DCS A-10C Warthog.

(OK, I don't love it but I want to.  I watch videos of guys who really know how to fly it and I want to be able to do that.  So why can't I even get my GBUs to hit accurately?)

Look at this video.  It's freaking awesome!  It would take me 10 minutes just to set up for a single Maverick launch I'd I'd likely still miss.  I wonder how long it took these guys to get as proficient as they are?



Intense stuff, makes me really want to learn this baby!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MengJiao on February 25, 2013, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: Rayfer on February 25, 2013, 08:26:45 AM
Any and all flight sims I have ever tried....!

I agree.  I'm the same way.  I've played a lot of flight sims and generally have just sucked in multiplayer.  From time to time I've managed to
survive and occasionally have shot down other players even, but yes, flight sims are a type of game I really like and at which I pretty much suck.

I'm terrible at chess too, but at least I don't like chess.  Or at least I have learned to avoid playing it too much.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Barthheart on February 25, 2013, 09:46:05 AM
Rise of Flight.... really really love flight simming WWI planes.... really really suck at this game.....  :'(
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 25, 2013, 10:02:53 AM
Most strategy games.

I really want to love Alpha Centuri and games of that sort but eventually they just feel too much like work in real life. What is the fun in that?

I really love the concept of the early CM games (CMBO, CMBB, CMAK) but I always end up getting my rear handed to me.

I love and have gained a certain amount of success in flight sims.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: tgb on February 25, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
Pick any Ageod title.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Sir Slash on February 25, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
IL-2 1946. I really wanted to fly a whole WWII campaign. I didn't care for who, or if I bacame an ace, just to take part. But I couldn't even survive the Pearl Harbor battle as the Japanese. At least I'm equally bad as all the major combatants so it's not a national thing. As I passed-over the bloody fields of Russia in my shiny new Messerschmidt, I can hear the Russian soldiers below laughing at me from 10,000 feet. Gus, what difficulity level are you playing STW2? That's actually one game I did rather well at.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MengJiao on February 25, 2013, 11:45:06 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 25, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
IL-2 1946. I really wanted to fly a whole WWII campaign. I didn't care for who, or if I bacame an ace, just to take part.

Ah, I have such fond memories of trying to survive as a Russian in the campaign in that game.  I recall one mission near Kronstadt where I did okay in my Polikarpov-16: cranking up the landing gear, not getting killed, cranking out for a landing.  Since the fond memories end there, I assume that's about as far as I got.

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Steelgrave on February 25, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
Anything real time that isn't pause-able. Civ above Prince level, which sucks because I'm probably played a thousand games of Civ in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
I'm playing Shogun 2 at normal difficulty. I am fully surrounded by enemies. I am fighting for the Shogunate and the Imperials are just kicking ass and taking names. There's nowhere for me to hide. I am doing well tactically but I have fires to deal with everywhere.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Martok on February 25, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
I'm terrible at most board games, including Chess.  But I still love playing them.  :) 


For computer games, I actually enjoy a number of RTS titles (Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 always being my favorite), but I'm not much good at them, especially in any sort of online play.  I've never really had the requisite reflexes and quick mind needed to compete in such twitch-fests. 





Quote from: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
I'm playing Shogun 2 at normal difficulty. I am fully surrounded by enemies. I am fighting for the Shogunate and the Imperials are just kicking ass and taking names. There's nowhere for me to hide. I am doing well tactically but I have fires to deal with everywhere.
Now see, just reading that makes me want to get the game all the more!  (Must...hold out...for Gold Edition...) 

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: W8taminute on February 25, 2013, 02:17:43 PM
Currently:  Operation Darkness - love to play but I suck out loud.  I do better in XCOM but not much.


In general: Anything COD.  I end up with a hole in the chest straight out of the spawn gate always, everytime.  I suck.  Much better in BF3, ARMA II, and GRFS.
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Post by: PanzersEast on February 25, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
Alea Jacta Est..... great game, but a lot to manage and I play it anyway.  Maybe just and Ageod thing so maybe just insert a ______ there.

Chivalry.... gave up on it, my kill ratio was 1:2.  I recently purchased War of the Roses for $4.

Air to Air battles in Falcon... they seem to all shot at me and ignore my flight.

PE


Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Sigma One on February 25, 2013, 02:59:38 PM
I'm legit bad at Rock Band. All my friends can do the guitar, the singing, the drumming on expert, and I'm just barely able to do it on medium difficulty.

Other games...I'm a terrible shot in WW2 flight sim games like IL-2, I prefer bombing runs since I feel its like shooting the ground with a shotgun.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Sir Slash on February 25, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
I never tried FOTS as the Shogun side. I imagine it's a great deal tougher. I won vanilla as the Imperials and re-fighting the same campaign with the Darth mod which also increases the difficulity. And done a little fire-fighting myself while playing it. I'm also not real good at Silent Hunter 4 tending to rush my approaches and then rush to the bottom.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Huw the Poo on February 25, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
Most recently, Heroes of Newerth.  Technically it's an utterly brilliant game, but to be any good at it you have to know everything inside out...what the dozens of characters can do, what the dozens of items do, when to jungle, when to push, when to fall back because you get a feeling you're about to get ganked, etc.

Coupled with the rage-inducingly horrible community, it's a game I will never play again, even though in theory I absolutely love it.

Nuclear Dawn.  I generally suck at shooters anyway but I don't tend to play them much, but ND is a fantastic game.  My K:D is usually slightly below 1 which is obviously quite poor.  I can usually put up a good fight but I'm constantly being knifed by those ninja stealth bastards, and like someone else said up-thread, I'm often just slower than the other guy to pull the trigger.  Superb game though.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: republic on February 25, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
I'd say Aurora and Dwarf Fortress for me.  Both of them I fall in love with the detail but then lose because I missed something I should have been paying attention to.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Father Ted on February 26, 2013, 06:44:34 AM
Good thread...

How about we look at why we think we're bad at certain games?

As a kid I wanted to be a WW2 fighter pilot (or perhaps wanted to have been - I'm not that old) I read all the books, built the Airfix models and so on.  Now technology has given me the chance to have a go, and I find that I really can't cut it in MP.  I "fly" with and against a bunch of mates and some of them are much better than me.  Partly that's experience, but I've been flying regularly for about 6 hours a week for two years, and feel I should be better.  In the end, I think I just don't have the hand-eye coordination and spatial awareness to really prosper.

Like others in this thread, I find I struggle at CMBN.  In this case, there's obviously no physical limitation (I play exclusively WEGO), so where am I going wrong?  Are some people natural tacticians, and I'm not one of them?  Having spent some time on the CMBN forum, I actually think that my problems here are more to do with learning the game mechanics than a lack of tactical nous.

The only computer game I consider myself to be vaguely proficient at is Darkest Hour - but that's probably only because I've logged 900 hours at it!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: ComradeP on February 26, 2013, 07:50:52 AM
My results with FPS games vary widely. I was quite good at Forgotten Hope, a mod for BF1942 and BF2, but something like Red Orchestra was something I was less good at because I usually fight as a rifleman and tend to get killed by guys with SMG's. It's one of the reasons I dislike shooters set in modern times: the ROF of most weapons is fairly high. When firing with a rifle in-game, I also get more of a feeling that there's some skill involved. Running into a building with a 72 bullet clip PPSh and killing everybody inside feels much less satisfying.

I was reasonably good at using Tank Hunters in WoT, they suited my playstyle: careful, accurate shots and disappearing before anybody knows what happened.

I'm generally not very fond of games where luck can change things dramatically, which is also why I lose interest in some turn-based wargames from time to time as getting bad rolls on difficult CRT's can thoroughly wreck your game.

I'm much better at a longer term plan or developing a genuine strategy than tactical (twitch-)gaming to begin with.
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Post by: undercovergeek on February 26, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
CMBN shortfalls for me are a result of not knowing what to do next or where to go next - the whole concept of the game's tactics and to the best of my knowledge real life bocage fighting tactics are to find the enemy, fix them with enough force and then overwhelm them with a greater force from a flanking movement - where i come unstuck is after ive won that battle, where do i go next and in what order (only if the map is big enough to need that direction), small maps are perfect, find, fix, flank, destroy and win is what happens there

FPS shortfalls are my OCD need for realism - ive shot a man running in the distance, i hit him, he should be dead or severely wounded enough to be no longer a threat, but he isnt, hes leaping up and down, dodging and weaving and eventually stabbing me - this realism would never happen in a modern run or gun FPS because the kids would get too upset about dying too much. There was a mode in the recent Ghost Recon where you had one life and that was it - it was very tense and nerve wracking, like i imagine it would be - i lose enjoyment in the game charging towards an enemy firing because i know damn well that isnt how it should be - if i could  make the mental switch from simulation to game i might be a bit better
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Post by: Rayfer on February 26, 2013, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: tgb on February 25, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
Pick any Ageod title.

LOL...me too!!  I've tried and tried but just can't seem to wrap my head around them.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MarkShot on February 26, 2013, 09:29:56 AM
Someone asked, 'How do you really know that you suck?'.

All the PC and iPad chess games I have generate a rating for the player based on win:loss versus a simulated engine rating. My rating is not gradually improving and the verbal description stays at "casual player".

No computer game implementation is as rigorous as chess engines. There is no gray area when it comes to "sucking". I know that I suck with great precision from CM11-PC, Fritz12-PC, Shredder-iPad, tChessPro-iPad, Stockfish-iPad, Chess Coach Pro-iPad, and Hiarcs-iPhone.

I am not proud, but it's the truth. However, I chose to suck at Chess, since all other games I eventually best the AI. This can never ever happen with Chess. All the engines I have can easily beat 99% of the World's human players, and then some.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Father Ted on February 26, 2013, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 26, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
FPS shortfalls are my OCD need for realism - ive shot a man running in the distance, i hit him, he should be dead or severely wounded enough to be no longer a threat, but he isnt, hes leaping up and down, dodging and weaving and eventually stabbing me - this realism would never happen in a modern run or gun FPS because the kids would get too upset about dying too much.

Go back to RO/DH/RO2.  I've been playing a lot of Planetside2 and that frustrates me in the same way.  I can actually hit people (and the game shows your hits, so I know that to be true) but very rarely often enough to stop them spotting and killing me before I kill them.  Drives me mad, even though I know it's a part of the game as they want you to buy better guns and armour.

Sorry for OffTop
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: MengJiao on February 26, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: Father Ted on February 26, 2013, 06:44:34 AM
Good thread...

How about we look at why we think we're bad at certain games?



I think I've decided that being pretty bad is more fun than doing really well.  For example, I got fantastically good at the original battlefield (BF42) and the result was that I only had a really good time when I absolutely exterminated the enemy.  Finally I hit the level of 2 PZIVs and 8-10 infantry in about 30 seconds attacking up hill and into entrenchments and I just stopped.  Just was well since my hand-eye reflexes were weird-ified for a year or so.
I got really good at Darkest Hour (which is a fantastic mod) in late 2008.  I decided it was taking too much of my time and I stopped.

These days I spend time fooling with editing scenarios in ARMA2 mods so that I can have a big messy battle solo and not think about it much
and doing similar things in FOTS and CMBN and Third Wire and Il-2 and Dangerous Waters.

And solo board games.  REally nothing beats a complex solo board game for extended suckiness:  you don't know the rules, you can't find the right pieces, You're not sure what some of the numbers and cryptic signs mean, you forget to roll for something (oh radar failure!  I forgot and I guess it is working after all) and the side you secretly want to win still gets beaten.  Very satisfying.  If sucky.

So its a win for me when I set up the AI well enough for it to have a reasonable chance of blasting me.  So I try to be consistantly a bit sucky in the interests of entertainment.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: RooksBailey on February 26, 2013, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on February 26, 2013, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 26, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
FPS shortfalls are my OCD need for realism - ive shot a man running in the distance, i hit him, he should be dead or severely wounded enough to be no longer a threat, but he isnt, hes leaping up and down, dodging and weaving and eventually stabbing me - this realism would never happen in a modern run or gun FPS because the kids would get too upset about dying too much.

Go back to RO/DH/RO2.  I've been playing a lot of Planetside2 and that frustrates me in the same way.  I can actually hit people (and the game shows your hits, so I know that to be true) but very rarely often enough to stop them spotting and killing me before I kill them.  Drives me mad, even though I know it's a part of the game as they want you to buy better guns and armour.

Or Call of Duty in Hardcore mode.  Most people don't even realize there is a hardcore mode where all it takes to kill an opponent is 1-2 shots, tops.  It is an absolutely lethal mode that I suspect a lot of people would prefer to play if they knew about it.  Once I tried it, I rarely returned to the standard "run and gun" mode of play.
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Post by: MarkShot on February 28, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
But sometimes I suck less than other times ...

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Post by: Sir Slash on February 28, 2013, 11:11:18 AM
Congrats Markshot. Beating computers at Chess is always harder than humans to me because you can't catch them off-guard.
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Post by: Boggit on February 28, 2013, 11:58:40 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 24, 2013, 11:05:51 PM
Chivalry  I'm not terrible at it but I'm not great either.  I usually get around a 1:1 - 1.5:1 K/D ratio which is kinda sucky but I have fun doing it.


DCS A-10C Warthog.

(OK, I don't love it but I want to.  I watch videos of guys who really know how to fly it and I want to be able to do that.  So why can't I even get my GBUs to hit accurately?)

Look at this video.  It's freaking awesome!  It would take me 10 minutes just to set up for a single Maverick launch I'd I'd likely still miss.  I wonder how long it took these guys to get as proficient as they are?


I saw these A10 planes at a Brigade Firepower demonstration on Salisbury Plain back in 1982/3. They were just awesome and your clip reminded me of it. I remember the cannon making a little farting sound and a few seconds later the target hill just erupted. Impressive. 8)
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Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2013, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 08:58:26 AM
Combat Mission Beyond Normandy...I seem to really be struggling with this one.  No matter how cautiously I proceed, I always manage to get my formations pinned down and chewed up.
If it helps, I find the key here is recon. Don't put too many troops forward and use your ability to create scouts. Once you've identified the enemy fire positions you can then engage the enemy with your lead squads and maneuver your reserves either to infiltrate a flank or to concentrate firepower. When I first started playing CMBN I found I was too aggressive and invariably got creamed too because I was too keen to close with the enemy too quickly.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2013, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: Rayfer on February 25, 2013, 08:26:45 AM
Any and all flight sims I have ever tried....!
Pretty much my experience too. I have got better over the years, but my ability generally sucks. I played IL2 Sturmovik Complete a while ago and died on almost every flight I took, usually getting into a spin and crashing. :-[
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2013, 12:15:02 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 25, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
IL-2 1946. I really wanted to fly a whole WWII campaign. I didn't care for who, or if I bacame an ace, just to take part. But I couldn't even survive the Pearl Harbor battle as the Japanese. At least I'm equally bad as all the major combatants so it's not a national thing. As I passed-over the bloody fields of Russia in my shiny new Messerschmidt, I can hear the Russian soldiers below laughing at me from 10,000 feet. Gus, what difficulity level are you playing STW2? That's actually one game I did rather well at.
+1

At least you had 10,000 feet between you and the Russians. I played a Russian Ace ::) (well a wannabe - I had the aspiration but not the skill) and spent my time being a laugh for the Germans who came to look at my wrecked plane on the ground... :-\
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2013, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: Martok on February 25, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
I'm playing Shogun 2 at normal difficulty. I am fully surrounded by enemies. I am fighting for the Shogunate and the Imperials are just kicking ass and taking names. There's nowhere for me to hide. I am doing well tactically but I have fires to deal with everywhere.
Now see, just reading that makes me want to get the game all the more!  (Must...hold out...for Gold Edition...)
I got the Twin pack - both S2TW and FOTS disk from Game.co.uk There was a big difference in price between their web shop and actual retail outlet. They also threw in the Saga clan as a freebie, which I didn't realise till I got the game. IIRC it was quite a good price too. I got the other DLC from Gamersgate.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Grimnirsson on March 01, 2013, 04:08:31 AM
Gears of War Multiplayer...I have the reflexes for CoD and am pretty good at it. Gears I can play on hardened in Campaign, or Horde up to wave 30+ without dying. But I am not good in the MP...this rolling around with the shotgun and blam, and roll some more while reloading and blam...isn't my style it seems. Having gone through all 3 GoW games multiple times and still enjoying them and looking forward to GoW Judgement, but I doubt I will ever become good at the MP  ;)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: W8taminute on March 01, 2013, 11:29:21 AM
^I'm not that good at GoW MP either but I am much better than in COD.  The trick I've found with the rolling around shotgunning style of many of the players in Gears MP is that you must maintain distance and pick them off from afar. 

When you do have to go stalking around tight corners or around cover have your shotty ready at all times.  Cover the area you are about to enter with it in case someone is waiting for you there.  Tag grenades on walls in case you need to retreat quickly, maybe you can lure your pursuer into that trap.

Most of the time when I get blown apart by a shotty, it's because I have trouble watching my six.  Someone always sneaks up on me.  Haven't figured out how to keep my head on a swivel yet in Gears.
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Post by: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
Too many to post - and I'm not even joking!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 01, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
We have time.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Anything multiplayer - ANYTHING
Anything frenetic
Anything tactical
Anything operational
Anything strategic
Anything quest based
Anything simulation related (flying, driving, armour as examples)
Anything space related
Anything empire building related
Anything game related

I think that covers it - you get my drift and I get to sum up and get on with being crap at gaming!

:)

Who's up for a match?  ;)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Barthheart on March 01, 2013, 03:42:41 PM
^LOL!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on March 01, 2013, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Anything multiplayer - ANYTHING
Anything frenetic
Anything tactical
Anything operational
Anything strategic
Anything quest based
Anything simulation related (flying, driving, armour as examples)
Anything space related
Anything empire building related
Anything game related

I think that covers it - you get my drift and I get to sum up and get on with being crap at gaming!

:)

Who's up for a match?  ;)

i see why you took up modelling
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: PanzersEast on March 01, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Anything multiplayer - ANYTHING
Anything frenetic
Anything tactical
Anything operational
Anything strategic
Anything quest based
Anything simulation related (flying, driving, armour as examples)
Anything space related
Anything empire building related
Anything game related

I think that covers it - you get my drift and I get to sum up and get on with being crap at gaming!

:)

Who's up for a match?  ;)

Failing is the New Winning!


PE
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 04:20:16 PM
Hopefully!  :)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Huw the Poo on March 02, 2013, 02:59:37 AM
Haha JD!  That's funny!  But hey, as long as you're having fun, right? :)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 02, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
See that wasn't so bad Dredd. Was it? Well not for the rest of us anyway.

Do you play any rugby PC games? Rugby management games? I'd imagine that would be right in your wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Longdan on March 02, 2013, 12:01:45 PM
A bicycle simulator?
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 02, 2013, 12:06:17 PM
^Maybe that too. Simulating one of those bikes with the giant wheel in front and the wee-tiny wheel in back. I'd play that.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 02, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
^ Penny Farthing

Nope - no rugby sims. I did play a demo game quite a few years ago - but the play didn't really match the likes of Madden NFL games from a control pov (that translates to I sucked at it!). I would LOVE a rugby management sim - but I'd probably suck at it!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 02, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
You never know 'til you try. 'Penny farthing' doesn't sound as awesome as I want it to. That kind of bike needs a new name.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: LongBlade on March 02, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: RooksBailey on February 26, 2013, 08:34:44 PM
Or Call of Duty in Hardcore mode.  Most people don't even realize there is a hardcore mode where all it takes to kill an opponent is 1-2 shots, tops.  It is an absolutely lethal mode that I suspect a lot of people would prefer to play if they knew about it.  Once I tried it, I rarely returned to the standard "run and gun" mode of play.

It's all I play - objective based hard core. Just ask a few guys around here  8)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Wolfe1759 on March 02, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 01, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Anything multiplayer - ANYTHING
Anything frenetic
Anything tactical
Anything operational
Anything strategic
Anything quest based
Anything simulation related (flying, driving, armour as examples)
Anything space related
Anything empire building related
Anything game related


I can tick quite a few of those boxes myself.

On the plus side, not being particularly good does mean that you can side step a perennial complaint about games, bad AI. It doesn't matter how bad the AI of a game is as long as you are worse than it  :)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 02, 2013, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 02, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
^ Penny Farthing

Nope - no rugby sims. I did play a demo game quite a few years ago - but the play didn't really match the likes of Madden NFL games from a control pov (that translates to I sucked at it!). I would LOVE a rugby management sim - but I'd probably suck at it!

I'd make a team of nothing but 1970s era props.  We  cement handed knuckle dragging scrum pushers have to stick together. 
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Huw the Poo on March 02, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 02, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: RooksBailey on February 26, 2013, 08:34:44 PM
Or Call of Duty in Hardcore mode.  Most people don't even realize there is a hardcore mode where all it takes to kill an opponent is 1-2 shots, tops.  It is an absolutely lethal mode that I suspect a lot of people would prefer to play if they knew about it.  Once I tried it, I rarely returned to the standard "run and gun" mode of play.

It's all I play - objective based hard core. Just ask a few guys around here  8)

From what I've seen, all you play is Orcs Must Die! 2. :P

Quote from: Wolfe1759 on March 02, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
On the plus side, not being particularly good does mean that you can side step a perennial complaint about games, bad AI. It doesn't matter how bad the AI of a game is as long as you are worse than it  :)

Hahahahaha!  So true!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Martok on March 02, 2013, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 02, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: Wolfe1759 on March 02, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
On the plus side, not being particularly good does mean that you can side step a perennial complaint about games, bad AI. It doesn't matter how bad the AI of a game is as long as you are worse than it  :)

Hahahahaha!  So true!
Indeed.  Which is why when I say a game has bad AI, you *know* it's bad.  :P 

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Hiimori on March 03, 2013, 05:35:44 PM
For me, it's "Toy Soldiers". The idea, the setting, the atmosphere, the love for detail is really cool - these tiny little WWI soldiers, cavalry, planes fighting inside a diorama... but I'm really awful at this game.

The single player did work until the first flying mission - I suck at steering these planes, so this chapter was the game breaker for me. But what's even worse is the multiplayer - I tried my best to send my British troops against Grimnirsson's Germans, but I didn't win even 1 game... we played all maps... I lost every single one of them and I have no idea why I suck at this game. I simply do. We repeated this some time later because it is one of his favorite games, but again... 0 wins for me. I simply cannot play this game  :o

Besides this, I'm awful at all games related to RTS combined with building Empires / bases. I simply hate it when my people begin to cry: "we need more metal / food / wood / whatever". I wanted to like Age of Empires, but in the end, I gave it away, it made me nervous  8) The only RTS which works for me is Dawn of War II because there isn't any complex base building element.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 03, 2013, 07:58:49 PM
Do you mean Toy Soldiers? I did suck at that game too in the beginning but with a little practice improved. You can also scale back the difficulty level if you want.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Hiimori on March 04, 2013, 02:47:59 AM
Yep, I meant Toy Soldiers, of course  :P (corrected my above post, thank you)

Btw, Toy Commander was a quite cool game on Sega Dreamcast, I wish they would make a similar game on a new console one day, we had lots of fun with it then.

The difficulty scaling in Toy Soldiers would certainly help with the SP campaign, I'm afraid but there's no hope for me regarding the MP against a human opponent... :P
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Anguille on March 04, 2013, 05:06:17 AM
Civilization III....

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on March 04, 2013, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 03, 2013, 07:58:49 PM
Do you mean Toy Soldiers? I did suck at that game too in the beginning but with a little practice improved. You can also scale back the difficulty level if you want.

That's because you were always crying!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: eyebiter on March 04, 2013, 10:48:15 AM
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd edition pen and paper after they changed armor class and introduced THACO.

Flight Sims - Ten years ago went cold turkey.  Would buy them just to read the manuals.. Too complex to grok.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2013, 11:00:07 AM
I am a sensitive gentleman, Geek :)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on March 04, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
Do you need a hug?
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Maybe.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: PanzersEast on March 04, 2013, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 04, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
Do you need a hug?

You don't hug a Samurai!



PE
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on March 04, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
Even hardened warrior bastards need a little hug sometimes

And if anyones a hardcore warrior bastard its gus
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Are you a beautiful busty woman?
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Sir Slash on March 04, 2013, 04:10:45 PM
Or should we bake cookies? All REAL men cry. Especially when playing CMFI as the Italians. :)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Huw the Poo on March 04, 2013, 05:28:44 PM
I cry when I play Amnesia: The Dark Descent!
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: undercovergeek on March 04, 2013, 07:28:12 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 04, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Are you a beautiful busty woman?

Me?

Depends how much you've got to spend
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: panzerde on March 04, 2013, 07:36:24 PM
^ Shameful display!  ;)
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 04, 2013, 08:01:33 PM
15 dollah is all my Mom allows me.

And my Gramps fought the Italians in real life and never cried once. Tough old coot that one.
Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Oche on March 05, 2013, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: Anguille on March 04, 2013, 05:06:17 AM
Civilization III....

Me too bud. I really liked Civ III but it totally burned me out.

Other than that some 1st person shooters and RPGs and all sort of Air Combat Flight Simulators when it comes to dogfighting...maybe that's why i love the bomber role so much  ;D

Title: Re: Games That You Love But Suck At
Post by: Gusington on March 05, 2013, 09:32:30 PM
And I just lost my latest campaign in Fall of the Samurai...it took three other factions to combine forces and finally destroy me, but they eventually did it. Back to the drawing board.

Picking an imperial clan this time, the Choshu. Short campaign (14 provinces, assist the Emperor in securing 35 provinces), normal difficulty.

Might play some Mark of the Ninja and/or modded Civ V with an Asian theme to cleanse my pallet first and then return.