Based on the reboot. http://www.startrekgame.com/
I've already pre-ordered.
You're brave. Star Trek games are such an iffy proposition.
Quote from: mirth on March 28, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
You're brave. Star Trek games are such an iffy proposition.
There have been some good ones IMHO.
Final Unity was an awesome TNG adventure game that really resembled a long episode of the show.
The Armada series was pretty neat at its time.
The Starfleet/Klingon Academy was pretty good.
Some folks love Bridge Commander or whatever it was called.
Birth of the Federation was nice.
Just to name a few :)
Shattered Universe was an abomination. Star Trek: Legacy was middling. DAC was a waste of time. For every good ST game there's at least one crappy one. :P
Btw Klingon Academy is truly excellent and has a permanent place in my game collection.
Birth of the Federation, best by far.
Based on the "reboot"? Pffffftttttt....That's not Star Trek. ::)
Quote from: mirth on March 28, 2013, 04:08:09 PM
For every good ST game there's at least one crappy one. :P
Fits in quite nicely with the 'even/odd' movie legacy.
Quote from: LongBlade on March 28, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
Based on the reboot. http://www.startrekgame.com/
I've already pre-ordered.
You preorder the xbox/ps3 version or did you find somewhere the pc version is available for order?
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 28, 2013, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 28, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
Based on the reboot. http://www.startrekgame.com/
I've already pre-ordered.
You preorder the xbox/ps3 version or did you find somewhere the pc version is available for order?
Isn't it available via Steam for pre-order?
I've no interest in the game, but the commercial is awesome (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/exclusive-william-shatner-fights-old-star-trek-enemy-215155239.html)
Quote from: bbmike on March 28, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Birth of the Federation, best by far.
Based on the "reboot"? Pffffftttttt....That's not Star Trek. ::)
The "reboot" just pisses me off everytime I think about it. There was no need to create an alternate timeline... or what the hell ever they did. They could have conformed to cannon with little effort, but his ego got in the way.
I am glad to see a new Star Wars coming out, but I am a little fearful too.
The first 2 Starfleet Command games where awesome, had a good sized multiplayer following. Then Activision got ahold of it and ruined it.
Quote from: LongBlade on March 28, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
Based on the reboot. http://www.startrekgame.com/
I've already pre-ordered.
RAGERAGERAGERAGEQuote from: mirth on March 28, 2013, 04:12:36 PM
Btw Klingon Academy is truly excellent and has a permanent place in my game collection.
Big +1 here. I really enjoy the capital ship combat, and seeing Plummer and Warner reprise their roles from
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country is always a delight. (Hearing the voice-work from Takei and Dorn is a treat as well!)
Quote from: bbmike on March 28, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Birth of the Federation, best by far.
Oh yeah. 8) I still dearly wish for a sequel to be made.
Quote from: bbmike on March 28, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Based on the "reboot"? Pffffftttttt....That's not Star Trek. ::)
Couldn't agree more!
fyi: $39.95 pre-order at GameStop (http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W4556)
p.s. While you may have to still download/install the Gamestop app to buy the game, "This game requires the Steam client to install & play." Once you get the Steam key, I imagine you can uninstall the Gamestop app.
Quote from: steve58 on April 16, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
fyi: $39.95 pre-order at GameStop (http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W4556)
p.s. While you may have to still download/install the Gamestop app to buy the game, "This game requires the Steam client to install & play." Once you get the Steam key, I imagine you can uninstall the Gamestop app.
A price drop prior to the release does not inspire confidence...
NAMCO and I don't get along, but I hope this turns out well! This could be a real neat title.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 16, 2013, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: steve58 on April 16, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
fyi: $39.95 pre-order at GameStop (http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W4556)
p.s. While you may have to still download/install the Gamestop app to buy the game, "This game requires the Steam client to install & play." Once you get the Steam key, I imagine you can uninstall the Gamestop app.
A price drop prior to the release does not inspire confidence...
So, again, those of us who decided to support and pre-order the game got screwed up and we paid more? :P
Quote from: Tpek on April 16, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
So, again, those of us who decided to support and pre-order the game got screwed up and we paid more? :P
Maybe. I'm hoping for the best. I'd love a good Star Trek FPS game. I played the one based on Voyager years ago and enjoyed it. Nothing great, but it was fun vaporizing bad guys. If this manages to be about as good I'll be happy.
And who knows? We might even be able to do some multiplayer. That would be great :)
I checked Steam and it's still 50$ there.
That 40$ must have been a sale/discount.
Mind you I too paid only 40$ since I bought through GreenManGaming and used a coupon :D
Quote from: Martok on March 29, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
Big +1 here. I really enjoy the capital ship combat, and seeing Plummer and Warner reprise their roles from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country is always a delight. (Hearing the voice-work from Takei and Dorn is a treat as well!)
Martok -- how does KA play on newer systems? This thread has me wanting to try to pick up a copy. Also what was the DRM for KA? Disc in drive? Serial number? Thanks....
Quote from: steve58 on April 16, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Martok -- how does KA play on newer systems? This thread has me wanting to try to pick up a copy.
In all honesty, I've had problems running the game on my last machine, so I'll admit I'm not terribly optimistic. Either way, though, I should be able to let you know in a few days what my results are.
Quote from: steve58 on April 16, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Also what was the DRM for KA? Disc in drive? Serial number? Thanks....
Just the disc in the drive.
^Thanks for the info!
You're welcome!
Interestingly, I just stumbled across a user-made patch that supposedly fixes most of the issues the game had with running on newer rigs. Will see if I can't fire it up sometime this weekend to find out if it actually works... <crosses fingers>
^Hopefully it will since I just picked up the CDs from Ebay. Can you post/send me a link to the mod? Thanks.
Quote from: steve58 on April 19, 2013, 02:16:48 PM
Can you post/send me a link to the mod? Thanks.
Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://jiridvorak.webpark.cz/ka/
Good luck!
Thank you good sir...
Well? Its out...what say you?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 23, 2013, 04:53:43 PM
Well? Its out...what say you?
I like it.
A bit consolish, but it's still fun. The game starts out on a shoot-fest but quickly slows down into some puzzle solving and button mashing. But after about 30 minutes or so it picks up again.
I'm playing solo but it looks as if the game is designed to be played in two-player co-op. Set in the reboot universe I'm having fun.
Do you think a non-ST fan will enjoy it?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 23, 2013, 05:04:25 PM
Do you think a non-ST fan will enjoy it?
Yes, but with the caveat that this is isn't Call of Duty. It's a console action game ported to a PC. A lot of money has been invested in getting the skins to look like the actors. The voices are all the real actors' voices. As a result the graphics are maybe an A- to B+. Story isn't bad. But at almost every turn the devs have elected to do console style stuff rather than PC. To do something you not only click a button, but hold it. Then you might have to mash it.
All in all I like it. I'm having fun. But it does feel "off" from a typical FPS game on the PC.
Next...I'd like to meet the guy on these boards who doesn't like Star Trek!
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/72175_649907618372028_577910452_n.jpg)
Quote from: LongBlade on April 23, 2013, 05:11:45 PM
Next...I'd like to meet the guy on these boards who doesn't like Star Trek!
That'd be me.
Daphne is looking pretty hot in that crew member mini skirt. Too bad Velma is going to die; she pulled the red shirt.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 23, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 23, 2013, 05:11:45 PM
Next...I'd like to meet the guy on these boards who doesn't like Star Trek!
That'd be me.
He loves it. Your words were not strong enough to express SDR's feelings about Star Trek.
I've just run into some cool ship-to-ship combat. Fun :)
Still waiting for my copy to be unlocked on Friday (and for all the non-Americans...which apparently includes Australians)
Quote from: Tpek on April 24, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
Still waiting for my copy to be unlocked on Friday (and for all the non-Americans...which apparently includes Australians)
Why would they do that? In an age of global electronic distribution this does nothing but piss people off and give them an excuse to download pirated warez.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2013, 11:24:08 AM
Why would they do that? In an age of global electronic distribution this does nothing but piss people off and give them an excuse to download pirated warez.
...and an excuse to hate Americans.
^Stupidity is their biggest excuse.
I can't be sure, but the game feels like it's got a movie plot. I can't imagine they'd give away the movie's plot in a game, but so far I'm finding some fun little twists in the plot. Good stuff.
I'm liking the game. The worst thing about it is the clunky console mapping. If they'd take just a bit of time to make it more of a PC UI I'd have nothing to complain about.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
I can't be sure, but the game feels like it's got a movie plot. I can't imagine they'd give away the movie's plot in a game, but so far I'm finding some fun little twists in the plot. Good stuff.
I'm liking the game. The worst thing about it is the clunky console mapping. If they'd take just a bit of time to make it more of a PC UI I'd have nothing to complain about.
How is the combat? What does it compare to? Gears of War? Ghost Recon Future Soldier? Is there a cover mechanic? Also, can you play with an xbox game controller? If so, does it help alleviate the feeling of "clunkiness?"
Quote from: Tpek on April 24, 2013, 11:52:09 AM
^Stupidity is their biggest excuse.
Tell us how you really feel Tpek.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 24, 2013, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Tpek on April 24, 2013, 11:52:09 AM
^Stupidity is their biggest excuse.
Tell us how you really feel Tpek.
Like I've got waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy too many new games for the upcoming weekend.
Star Trek FPS, Dead Island Riptide, Mars War Logs, Monaco, Neverwinter MMO, and these are just the new ones rather than the ones I'm still thinking of actually finishing :P
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 24, 2013, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
I can't be sure, but the game feels like it's got a movie plot. I can't imagine they'd give away the movie's plot in a game, but so far I'm finding some fun little twists in the plot. Good stuff.
I'm liking the game. The worst thing about it is the clunky console mapping. If they'd take just a bit of time to make it more of a PC UI I'd have nothing to complain about.
How is the combat? What does it compare to? Gears of War? Ghost Recon Future Soldier? Is there a cover mechanic? Also, can you play with an xbox game controller? If so, does it help alleviate the feeling of "clunkiness?"
Of your list I have only played Gears of War, and that very briefly.
Yes, there is a cover mechanic.
I haven't plugged in a controller. I don't like them. Don't even know where mine are ATM :)
The clunkiness could probably be fixed with some key remapping.
For instance, in one part I was navigating a photon torpedo........but the mapping was backward. W wend down and S went up. Also, the game isn't exactly great at telling you thinks like that. You just have to figure it out. E sometimes means press and hold the E key. But if it's slightly pulsing it means mash it a bunch of times. Took me a few tries to figure that out. Frankly, I don't see the challenge of mashing a key over and over. Either let me in, or challenge me a different way. Repeatedly mashing a key just seems...juvenile.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FGrogHeads%2F2013-04-24_00009_zps350cf031.jpg&hash=23afad7a042840160bf6ff4f89ce4e3e2a796b72) (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/longblade/media/GrogHeads/2013-04-24_00009_zps350cf031.jpg.html)
^Get that Gorn bastard!
They're even tougher than before!
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nerdsraging.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F04%2Fgorn_051.jpg&hash=b9d83bc2a40ec46d34e2f2a99b0e2a939d380fc9)
But, but, but...it's not a FPS!
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
They're even tougher than before!
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nerdsraging.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F04%2Fgorn_051.jpg&hash=b9d83bc2a40ec46d34e2f2a99b0e2a939d380fc9)
Kirk will make out with anyone :P
RPS literally SLAMMED it...
Quote
I think what I'm trying to say is: don't buy Star Trek: The Videogame. It's awful. Really, really awful.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/25/wot-i-think-star-trek-the-videogame/#more-150874 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/25/wot-i-think-star-trek-the-videogame/#more-150874)
AngryJoe is very angry about the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZB7r9m9vYNA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZB7r9m9vYNA)
What is most apalling is the marketing moves associated with the game. There are a bunch of false accounts being created to either hype the game or attack detractors, really trashy and unethical stuff.
I'm having fun with it.
Nothing crazy great about it, but it's not horrible.
Predictable? Sure.
But it's fun. Maybe it's the fact that I just like Star Trek. It did take me an hour or two to get into it, but now I really look forward to playing it.
Call of Duty? Not even close.
But if you like the setting there's nothing terribly wrong with it. I still have issues with the UI but they can be overcome.
It's not terrible but nothing really good about it either.
A very silly corridor third-person shooter, with some Co-Op elements and limited depth.
All set in a the Reboot-Trek universe.
Agreed.
That's good enough for me. It's not terrible and I'm OK with that. :)
But since when are the Gorn so evil?
EDIT: A 2.5GB patch was just released. And with no patch notes whatsoever.
So, 10 more DLCs now? :P
Man Longblade, I like you and all, but holy crap does that game look CHEESY. I mean, serious nerdgasm stuff.
Quote from: Toonces on April 26, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
Man Longblade, I like you and all, but holy crap does that game look CHEESY. I mean, serious nerdgasm stuff.
I have never denied my nerdliness. When I was in elementary school I was mocking up the Enterprise's bridge in my basement. Yes, that meant copying the layout of the control panels onto cardboard from my Technical Manual and inviting my friends over to crew the ship with me. It would be impossible for me to be anything other than a Star Trek geek.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cygnus-x1.net%2Flinks%2Flcars%2Fblueprints%2Fuss-enterprise-bridge-sheet-4.jpg&hash=ec9dfed46b29d52d560471e3ea0dc75624399025)
The biggest problem with the game (IMHO) is that the development dollars went into paying the actors from the reboot to use their likeness and voices in the game.
I don't know how much money it costs to get everyone from the movie to do the voices, but I'd have been just as happy with no-name actors and new characters and taking that money to develop a game less dependent on rails.
That said, it's not a bad game. It's just not great. All I wanted is for the game to be fun. For me, it is.
Quote from: Tpek on April 26, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
It's not terrible but nothing really good about it either.
A very silly corridor third-person shooter, with some Co-Op elements and limited depth.
All set in a the Reboot-Trek universe.
That doesn't make it sound like it's worth £40. And I was just going to post on here and ask - are the graphics just bad because of the videos, or are they that bad in game? The videos I saw on Steam made the game look like a 2005 game
I wouldn't pay full price for it, especially not now.
Thought he latest 2.5GB patch-note-less patch is supposed to have fixed many issues.
You should probably wait for a sale on this one (50%+ off and such)
Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 28, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
Quote from: Tpek on April 26, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
It's not terrible but nothing really good about it either.
A very silly corridor third-person shooter, with some Co-Op elements and limited depth.
All set in a the Reboot-Trek universe.
That doesn't make it sound like it's worth £40. And I was just going to post on here and ask - are the graphics just bad because of the videos, or are they that bad in game? The videos I saw on Steam made the game look like a 2005 game
Don't pay £40. Wait for it to go on sale. £15-£20 is probably fair.
The graphics are OK. Slightly dated, but I put that down to it being a console game first.
Wow Longblade, that is some serious nerd bling your sporting. The Enterprise bridge in your basement- thats elite nerd.
Quote from: Swatter on April 28, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Wow Longblade, that is some serious nerd bling your sporting. The Enterprise bridge in your basement- thats elite nerd.
Not just anybody can lead a gaming website. The vetting process is extensive. Grueling. And most candidates wash out in the first 24 minutes.
LB you may be the only gamer/critic type dude to actually like the game.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-trek-the-video-game
Normally I take metacritic with a grain of salt, but man does this game get thrashed.
Quote from: Bison on April 29, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
LB you may be the only gamer/critic type dude to actually like the game.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-trek-the-video-game
Normally I take metacritic with a grain of salt, but man does this game get thrashed.
Agreed.
The more I play it the more I realize I like it because it's Star Trek. The graphics are fairly primitive and the gameplay wholly uninspired.
I don't mind it because it's fairly mindless entertainment. Its one true saving grace is that it's more like an interactive episode of a series than it is a game. Instead of watching Kirk shoot the Gorn, I get to do it. That's what's really fun. The plot is fairly light but it does move along and have some twists.
SPOILER ALERTI'm a bit disappointed that - at least at this point - the game treats the Gorn as irreconcilable enemies rather than as the allies that they will become in Star Fleet Battles. The cynic in me says this was done to put as much distance between Amarillo Design Bureau and the reboot. Too bad, because ADB has some decent lore to work with and an excellent and proven gaming system.
Quote from: Bison on April 29, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
LB you may be the only gamer/critic type dude to actually like the game.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-trek-the-video-game
Normally I take metacritic with a grain of salt, but man does this game get thrashed.
Ouch. Gamestar's review includes an especially harsh comment:
QuoteAfter this shock I must urgently re-play something better. For example, Aliens: Colonial Marines.
:o
Quote from: LongBlade on April 29, 2013, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 29, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
LB you may be the only gamer/critic type dude to actually like the game.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-trek-the-video-game
Normally I take metacritic with a grain of salt, but man does this game get thrashed.
Agreed.
The more I play it the more I realize I like it because it's Star Trek. The graphics are fairly primitive and the gameplay wholly uninspired.
I don't mind it because it's fairly mindless entertainment. Its one true saving grace is that it's more like an interactive episode of a series than it is a game. Instead of watching Kirk shoot the Gorn, I get to do it. That's what's really fun. The plot is fairly light but it does move along and have some twists.
SPOILER ALERT
I'm a bit disappointed that - at least at this point - the game treats the Gorn as irreconcilable enemies rather than as the allies that they will become in Star Fleet Battles. The cynic in me says this was done to put as much distance between Amarillo Design Bureau and the reboot. Too bad, because ADB has some decent lore to work with and an excellent and proven gaming system.
I have to agree with the Gorn assessment. And no real reason to put it in a spoiler section.
You meet them right on the very first few seconds of the game :P
Not only they are not like the Federation allies they are in the Starfleet Universe, but they are not even remotely true to their TOS origins as well.
I'm not a Star Trek phd but didn't the new movie series change up the lore?
Quote from: Bison on April 30, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
I'm not a Star Trek phd but didn't the new movie series change up the lore?
Well, it's not that relevant anymore with ST franchise being rebooted :P
Quote from: Bison on April 30, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
I'm not a Star Trek phd but didn't the new movie series change up the lore?
That's a good point. Yes they did. Vulcan was destroyed. The game picks up that thread and it drives a large part of the game.
IIRC, the reboot plays in a parallel universe created when Nero and his renegade Romulans (or are they Remans?) emerge from the future and disturb the timeline when they attack the USS Kelvin, creating a divergence of paths and the film follows the new timeline rather than the old, canonical, TOS path.
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 30, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
IIRC, the reboot plays in a parallel universe created when Nero and his renegade Romulans (or are they Remans?) emerge from the future and disturb the timeline when they attack the USS Kelvin, creating a divergence of paths and the film follows the new timeline rather than the old, canonical, TOS path.
You're right about all that. Why it would radically change the Gorn is a bit beyond me, but what are you gonna do...
Quote from: mirth on April 30, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 30, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
IIRC, the reboot plays in a parallel universe created when Nero and his renegade Romulans (or are they Remans?) emerge from the future and disturb the timeline when they attack the USS Kelvin, creating a divergence of paths and the film follows the new timeline rather than the old, canonical, TOS path.
You're right about all that. Why it would radically change the Gorn is a bit beyond me, but what are you gonna do...
I'm pretty sure it's to put as much distance between the TV/movie folks and Amarillo Design Bureau. I've had conversations with folks in the know. Can't remember what - if anything - I can't share, but let's just say when TOS ended there was a big legal hole left wide open that the corporate types would love to fill but can't.
I rented Star Trek from the local redbox for the 360. I actually was having a lot of fun with it and decided to purchase it when it got into my normal price range. (Which for FPS's is >$30) I was surprised to see it had such bad reviews.
Sometimes I think the gaming press goes into pihrana mode. Listening to one podcast I heard the guys say that they'd gotten review copies of Star Trek but sent them back without playing it because of the bad reviews on other sites. I guess that is modern day journalistic integrity... (I nolonger frequent that site.) Really the FPS genre is such a populist genre...I feel for anyone not making a Call of Duty sequel because if it isn't Call of Duty the press is going to be unrelenting.
Anyhow, its a decent game which reminds me the days of Elite Force. I like navigating the Enterprise and the Co-op is fun to play with my daughter.
The last Star Trek game I was really interested in was Bridge Commander. I played Klingon Academy the most, but a close second was Star Fleet Academy. I played many a online game of SFA. Though there was a unpatched bug/feature where if you pressed C-A-R quickly (Cloak, Alert, Red) a Bird of Prey could fire while cloaked...and as soon as everyone figured that out it was anarchy.
Agreed, Republic.
It's not a *bad* game. Great? No. But it's fun.
I think you're right about piranha mode. It seems like people are afraid not to kick it in the teeth.