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Title: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: JasonPratt on August 25, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
This is going to sound extremely random, but I ran across this page while looking for how to run the 90s Space Hulk game on D-Fend. (Long story.)

Apparently, veterans from Iron Lore, mostly known for the excellent Titan Quest duology (a Greek mythy answer to the Diablo games), as well as their work on the final Dawn of War 1 game Soulstorm (which I'm finally working through a campaign on, by the way, after years of playing only skirmish and mp with it), are hard at work on a Victorianesque steampunk Diabloish game, to be released through Steam. Alpha has been out since May this year, don't really know much about progress than that -- and I'm definitely not going to invest in alpha development again for a while (Mechwarriorish grin), but I'm certainly hoping they can pull it together and release something awesome on Steam etc.

The official FAQ page for the game here: http://www.grimdawn.com/about_faq.php#q01
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on August 25, 2013, 02:11:59 PM
I'm cautiously interested in this.  I'm pretty much done with this type of game, but I have a lot of respect for the devs; Titan Quest was a very, very good game.  I want to know what they're doing to bring something new to the table, though.

Spotted this gem in the FAQ:

QuoteWill Grim Dawn have tons of sweet loot?

Does a bear shit in the woods?!

:D
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Tpek on August 25, 2013, 02:14:35 PM
This has been discussed many thanks here and back at the WG.

They were taking beta-preorders long ago and had a PayPal problem, later they launched a Kickstarter, and then again into PayPal.

The beta has been available for a while via Steam.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on August 25, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
Quote from: Tpek on August 25, 2013, 02:14:35 PM


The beta has been available for a while via Steam.

I didn't realize they have a Beta buy-in.   ???  Don't think I want to spoil it just yet, anyway, but that's nice to know.


Hrmm.. I'm not seeing it.  Are you just saying that it's been approved for future Steam release? 
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on August 26, 2013, 02:50:00 AM
This actually was the first game I bought into on the basis of prediction...
They haven't contacted me at all about the shift to Steam and the Alpha being available, yet I paid for the big box of goodies... Kind of dissapointing.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on August 26, 2013, 07:34:21 AM
I've been looking forward to Grim Dawn for a long time...no solid actual release date?
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on August 26, 2013, 09:40:04 AM
Not that I know of.  :-X
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on November 05, 2013, 08:04:31 PM
Grim Dawn available for 'early access' on Steam right now for 26.99...anyone got it?
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on November 06, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Havent tried any of the builds so far even though I am in since day one. Perhaps I should start to take a look, but last time I checked only a small portion of the world seemed available ...
I'll download later today and post impressions.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Darkspire on November 06, 2013, 02:05:46 AM
This is the Facebook page, always updated with the current version and what is going on with it.

https://www.facebook.com/GrimDawn (https://www.facebook.com/GrimDawn)

Darkspire
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on November 06, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Quote from: Darkspire on November 06, 2013, 02:05:46 AM
This is the Facebook page, always updated with the current version and what is going on with it.

https://www.facebook.com/GrimDawn (https://www.facebook.com/GrimDawn)

Darkspire

Ugh.  Social media sites as an update venue sucks.  That page is a mess, as is normal with Facebook.

Perhaps someone here will start it up soon and tell us what's yet to be done.  :D  I plan on picking this up sometime, but probably not until it's feature complete, at least in the beta stage.  It's another one of those games that has been in open development for years and seems to be moving at a snail's pace. 
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on November 06, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 06, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Ugh.  Social media sites as an update venue sucks.  That page is a mess, as is normal with Facebook.

If someone's making something I'm interested in but their only web presence is a Facebook page, they drop off my radar fast.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on November 07, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 06, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 06, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Ugh.  Social media sites as an update venue sucks.  That page is a mess, as is normal with Facebook.

If someone's making something I'm interested in but their only web presence is a Facebook page, they drop off my radar fast.

Last I checked, they had their own game website and forum. 

But yeah, I also don't bother checking in on them if their preferred method of public announcement is via 'social media' sites.  I suppose it helps avoid any extra pre-release hype, so at least it helps avoid the itch for release date.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on November 07, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
It's a cheap and tacky way of getting people to do their marketing for them.  Some developers have gone as far as to offer the "reward" of screenshots in exchange for a certain number of "likes" on Facebook.  Eurgh.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on November 07, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
There is a normal website with forum and All about the game.

I fired it up and its quite clear that the crew did Titan Quest. It comes across as TQ in a different outfit. Only Act 1 is available in this alpha version and not All gameplay features are in.
Still it looks like a good game so far and if you are into hell / witchhunter kinda stuff and liked TQ for its gameplay, this one will likely be a winner too. :)
Not much more to report at this time really .
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 07:15:04 PM
This is on sale right now at Steam. Anyone playing it? It's got some very good user reviews there.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Rayfer on March 10, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
Watched the trailer on Steam....looks to be a Diablo-like game...frantic action, hordes of attacking monsters, although some of the forum posters (on Steam) say it is comparable to Titan Quest.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 07:43:17 PM
Yep Diablo, Titan Quest and Torchlight.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: FrontierCybrarian on March 10, 2014, 07:57:23 PM
I purchased this several months ago. It's a fast-paced rpg with tons of monster killing. The graphics, sound, and play are all good. However, I got sort of tired with the constant and redundant hacking and slashing. Another thing that, to me, makes it less appealing than Titan's Quest is the lack of spoken dialogue. I'm not much of a fan of dialogue only boxes without the voicing.

A much more refined and enjoyable rpg I've been playing is The Incredible Van Helsing complete series.

Just my feelings and opinions...nothing serious folks!
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
^You know I played about 10 hours of Van Helsing and thought the same thing of it that you mention of Grim Dawn above...decent but kinda repetitive after a while.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on March 11, 2014, 06:57:56 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
^You know I played about 10 hours of Van Helsing and thought the same thing of it that you mention of Grim Dawn above...decent but kinda repetitive after a while.

I thought Van Helsing seemed rather repetitive from the start.  I played about 30 minutes into it and haven't revisited since.  *shrug*


The overly complicated special ability bar-pumping thing was also annoying and needless.  I'm sure they were trying to do something innovative with the mechanics but it just doesn't seem interesting at all and only serves to be a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Tpek on March 11, 2014, 07:26:42 AM
I've bought into the Van Helsing 2 beta-buy-in program, but they seem to have bugs even with their online shop :P
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: FrontierCybrarian on March 11, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
^You know I played about 10 hours of Van Helsing and thought the same thing of it that you mention of Grim Dawn above...decent but kinda repetitive after a while.

Gus, you're probably correct...as I play Van Helsing for a longer period I'll bet it too will become repetitive. I haven't played a "great" rpg pc game for a long time...one that is innovative, has an intriguing and compelling story, with memorable and balanced combat, and nice (doesn't have to be perfect) graphics, voicing, ambience, and immersion. Maybe I ask too much.

It's seems as I get older I get bored faster with gaming. Also, I've taken up fishing and participating in local community activities. But life is good in that I have the privilege of choosing to do a lot of fun things.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Rayfer on March 11, 2014, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: FrontierCybrarian on March 11, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
^You know I played about 10 hours of Van Helsing and thought the same thing of it that you mention of Grim Dawn above...decent but kinda repetitive after a while.

Gus, you're probably correct...as I play Van Helsing for a longer period I'll bet it too will become repetitive. I haven't played a "great" rpg pc game for a long time...one that is innovative, has an intriguing and compelling story, with memorable and balanced combat, and nice (doesn't have to be perfect) graphics, voicing, ambience, and immersion. Maybe I ask too much.

It's seems as I get older I get bored faster with gaming. Also, I've taken up fishing and participating in local community activities. But life is good in that I have the privilege of choosing to do a lot of fun things.

FC....I like your last comments. I retired a few years ago and thought I was done with 'work-life' balance issues only to find it became one of 'pc game-life' balance. A balance of the two is healthy for the mind.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 11, 2014, 01:31:18 PM
Only 18.5 years until I can start to think about retiring!

Maybe Grim Dawn will be fun and playable by then :)
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: FrontierCybrarian on March 11, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: Rayfer on March 11, 2014, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: FrontierCybrarian on March 11, 2014, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 10, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
^You know I played about 10 hours of Van Helsing and thought the same thing of it that you mention of Grim Dawn above...decent but kinda repetitive after a while.

Gus, you're probably correct...as I play Van Helsing for a longer period I'll bet it too will become repetitive. I haven't played a "great" rpg pc game for a long time...one that is innovative, has an intriguing and compelling story, with memorable and balanced combat, and nice (doesn't have to be perfect) graphics, voicing, ambience, and immersion. Maybe I ask too much.

It's seems as I get older I get bored faster with gaming. Also, I've taken up fishing and participating in local community activities. But life is good in that I have the privilege of choosing to do a lot of fun things.

FC....I like your last comments. I retired a few years ago and thought I was done with 'work-life' balance issues only to find it became one of 'pc game-life' balance. A balance of the two is healthy for the mind.

Rayfer, thanks for the comments. You and I seem to be of the same mold. Good gaming to you always!
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on March 12, 2014, 06:41:30 AM
I am actually liking GD so far.
Just like Titan Quest, your character is classless. The starting options do not matter very much at all. This has a disadvantage in early game because you are not presented with the specialised skills yet, but in the longer run it gives you great Freedom about how you want to build your character.

GD is a traditional 'Hack and Slash' genre game, like Diablo. These days people refer to these games as Action RPGs, but those are a different breed traditionally. ARPgs is just a term that has become a general way to describe an RPG where stats in the traditional sense of DnD are not used, but a more action oriƫnted approach is used instead.

But the hack and slash genre is having a comeback lately. GD is one of the more traditional offerings, just like Path of Exile.
If you like ARPGs you definately do not have to like Hack N Slash type of games. They are a different sub genre of RPGs.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on March 12, 2014, 10:46:27 AM
Is the content still only half-finished in Grim Dawn?

I wouldn't mind buying it in early access but would prefer to wait until most of the campaign areas & such were in.  Don't wanna keep playing the first third or half of the game over and over when there will be a lot more later stuff added.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on March 12, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
AFAIK Only Act 1 and 2 are in the game at this time still. Where Act 2 starts to introduce player choices that have consequences in the world of GD.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 12, 2014, 07:33:12 PM
FWIW players on Steam really have enjoyed the first two acts.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on March 12, 2014, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 12, 2014, 07:33:12 PM
FWIW players on Steam really have enjoyed the first two acts.

I'm sure they're great but isn't there about four more left to be done?

Too early for me to jump.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on March 13, 2014, 07:53:38 AM
Not sure how many acts are planned. A lot of players seem to be getting a good 20-30 hours out of what is available right now though.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 11:12:31 AM
To go along with the approaching Halloween season I am practicing some thread necromancy. Looking to finally pick up Grim Dawn if the price is right later today. Anyone still playing it or interested? If not I may check out Path of Exile, a game I know nothing about.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on September 28, 2014, 11:21:24 AM
I can't speak for Grim Dawn, but Path of Exile is really good.  It's a massive game, and the skill tree has to be seen to be believed.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
Looking at Path of Exile right now...it's entirely free, beginning to end?
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Toonces on September 28, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
^ From my understanding, Yup.  I didn't really care for it, but I only played about 5 hours or maybe less.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
It looks really good from what I've been reading about it. Why didn't you like it?

For free I can't argue but I have to think there is some kind of catch with Path of Exile...is there?

You don't get something for nothing...Star's mom always told me that.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Toonces on September 28, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
I read a lot of reviews of PoE before I downloaded it, and the consensus seemed to be that the game can be played, and enjoyed, completely FTP.  The pay items provide cosmetic and other enhancements, but aren't required to enjoy the game.  The game is also highly rated by players that play it.

To me it was more of the walk around, kill monsters, take loot, all in 3rd person, and while that wasn't a bad thing it's just not what I am currently looking for.  Joining a guild and playing with other like-minded players would probably make a huge difference. 
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
So the repetition thing again, eh?

Also noticed there are newer versions of Path of Exile available on Steam.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on September 28, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
So the repetition thing again, eh?

Not more so than any other game in this genre.  I urge you to give it a try.  I forgot to mention that the game drips with atmosphere, and the voice acting is far above average for a computer game (not something I normally look for but it's so rare I notice it when it happens).
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Bison on September 28, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
micro-transactions purchasing is how the game is "free".
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on September 28, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
I tried Path of Exile when it first came out.  There was much less variety in it compared to other action RPGs in the same genre at the time.  I was specifically bummed by the lack of monster variety after playing a few hours.  When you entered an area, it would be mostly one type of monster over & over & over for a long stretch with a rare second type occasionally appearing.  That was my biggest impression of it at the time.

It also made my video card attempt to run at approximately 3,000 fps (hot!) despite having Vsync on and there were steady reports of video optimization being needed.  I expect they've fixed these issues by now, but I can't say for sure since I've not played it since.  They also probably added more content too.


I keep hearing that Grim Dawn is awesome right now.  But it's not finished.  Last I checked, only about 1/4 of the campaign was in.   They haven't been moving terribly quickly either.  :-[  Fortunately there have been some good RPGs released recently.  Wasteland 2 is my current wonderful muse but I always have other "old trustys" always ready to go such as the superb Tales Of Maj'Eyal (TOME).
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 06:54:45 PM
Tales of Maj'Eyal?

I can't really go wrong with 'free' but I'm not a big micro transaction guy.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on September 28, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 28, 2014, 06:54:45 PM
Tales of Maj'Eyal?

I can't really go wrong with 'free' but I'm not a big micro transaction guy.

Micro transactions?  There are no micro transactions in TOME. 

You can play it for Free.  If you want to donate (the intention of the paid version) for $7, it gives you a small universal "bank box" which allows you to exchange a handful of looted items between your different characters. Which isn't really needed.  It's not an MMO and doesn't have Micro transactions.  O0

http://store.steampowered.com/app/259680/

It's pretty much a mix between a Roguelike and a classic RPG, with some of the best points of both.  Don't let the static artwork (which is kinda cool IMO) scare you away.  There is a lot of customization and replayability.  The interface is slightly unusual but you get the hang of it quickly.

I've had ridiculous amounts of play time out of TOME compared to the entry fee. 


Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on September 29, 2014, 07:46:28 AM
Thanks for the link, checking it out now. My comment on microtransactions was aimed at Path of Exile.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Tpek on September 29, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
Meh, my ARPG of choice is still Marvel Heroes :)
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on June 22, 2015, 08:58:59 PM
This may be a ridiculous question but is there a manual way to 'save anywhere' in Grim Dawn, or are saves generated only when rift gates are found? I didn't see any key command for saving in the options menu.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: BanzaiCat on June 23, 2015, 06:29:39 AM
That's a good question. I think you save back at the home base, IIRC, or possibly it autosaves when you step through one of those gates. I can't recall, sorry. I'd like to get back to it eventually...both Grim Dawn and Wasteland 2 mock me relentlessly from my library.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on June 23, 2015, 07:36:26 AM
Thanks BC. It saves your stats and loot automatically, it looks like. But it also looks like there is no save to your total progress until you use one of those gates, and it doesn't look like there is a save anywhere option.

Really enjoyed the hour or so I played so far...essy to get into with depth.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on January 02, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
Just curious...how has Grim Dawn turned out?  Seems like it is still in EA, but is it worth getting while on sale?  Been thinking about it, but not sure based on what I have read.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on January 02, 2016, 11:11:57 AM
It has just become feature complete. Release is slated for q1 2016.
I like the game very much.
Its great fun with open ended character development and a cool 'van Helsing'-esque atmosphere.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 02, 2016, 12:12:09 PM
I hope they deliver on the promised Linux version!
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on January 02, 2016, 02:47:16 PM
Thanks will be picking up
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: jamus34 on January 02, 2016, 03:27:18 PM
I picked it up yesterday (yes I was weak) and proceeded to put a good 3 hours into it. Somewhat repetitive but fun and there are a number of different systems to keep it interesting.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on January 02, 2016, 05:47:14 PM
I put about 5-6 hours into it, I enjoyed it well enough but it did feel repetitive to me. I'll go back to it at some point though. IIRC I also go to a certain point where I was kind of stuck and had trouble advancing.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 02, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
The guts are still quite Titan Quest style.  But there are new classes, campaign features, setting, etc. 

The final bit of content was released before Xmas.  Now it's just down to final bug squashing.

I'm not sure if some future patch will require you restart characters from the beginning, but I've been holding off until I find out.  Since Underrail just got it's official release, and I've been doing some Marvel Heroes, I have other RPGs to keep me busy in the meantime.  :)
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 12:32:19 AM
How is Underrail? Looks interesting.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 03, 2016, 01:56:54 AM
Quote from: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 12:32:19 AM
How is Underrail? Looks interesting.

Interesting isometric RPG indie with turn-based combat.  The setting & character options are pretty cool. 

I wish your character would move around faster while out of combat but it's not been a big deal thus far.  It can be pretty brutal starting off; you gotta be careful a pack of Rathounds doesn't eat you straight away.

Reminiscent of stuff like Fallout 2, but with people living in subway tunnels & such underground, after the apocalypse.  Or  the Avernum/Avadon series from Spiderweb, but with a lot more character customization options, items, crafting, etc; i.e. more RPG stuff.

It also has two different options for gaining XP & level-ups.  There is a classic style which awards it for killing stuff and completing missions/quests.  But the default is an "Oddity" xp system wherein you find strange items as loot in containers, from hostile kills/pickpockets, etc.  It should allow for more stealthy & non-lethal approaches to situations while still getting about as many opportunities to advance your character.  Also.. the Oddity items themselves are part of the lore and add some interesting loot to find.

I started a TK & Mind Control Psionic character on my first go, but I'm thinking of re-rolling to take only one of those and some more crafting and/or lockpicking type skills to start, along with some extra melee or firearms.  Want moar skills!  Dude got taken down by a pack of aforementioned Rathounds before I could take them all down (and I decided not to run for the stairs to safety when given the chance).   Haven't even encountered Mutants or Crazies yet.  :buck2:

I recommend using the F5 quicksave regularly.  It's old-school RPG difficulty early on.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
^How's exploration? Fun?
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 03, 2016, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
^How's exploration? Fun?

Dunno yet.  I keep dying.

There certainly aren't any artificial blocks for more difficult areas than you can handle.  Hell, they're all difficult. After scraping past the initial Rathound pack encounter, by luring them near a barrel with explosive contents and shooting it, I wandered into one of the Crazies (Psionicist gone mad) with his pack of dogs.  They murderized me in no time.

I've been using Normal difficulty but at this rate, Easy mode is gonna be happening.  :buck2:  Or I'll give in to starting a Grim Dawn character sometime soon.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
^Shamefrul!
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 03, 2016, 09:36:36 PM
I normally enjoy getting my ass handed to me once or twice, with a new game.  It can be encouraging.

But the despair is there!


The tiny 5mm pistol or basic combat knife you start with in Underrail is only meant for slow tickling in front of a fire.  Meanwhile, the mutant animals bite more in one turn than your favorite dominatrix.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on January 03, 2016, 10:07:46 PM
^That's a lot of biting.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 04, 2016, 07:32:19 AM
I'd like to get back to it too, eventually...I only put in a couple of hours. But, I still have Wasteland 2 which I should play before Grim Dawn, I think. I dunno what my hangup is on that one.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 04, 2016, 08:01:26 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 04, 2016, 07:32:19 AM
I'd like to get back to it too, eventually...I only put in a couple of hours. But, I still have Wasteland 2 which I should play before Grim Dawn, I think. I dunno what my hangup is on that one.

I've put Wasteland 2 Director's Cut on hold for awhile.  Between reports of them screwing up the camera view, and some other bugs after the big DC upgrade, I'll wait a bit longer in the hopes some of it will get further patch(es).

I did enjoy the original Wasteland 2 so it'll roll around again eventually.

While Grim Dawn pronounces itself a "post-apocalypse" setting, it's still very much a fantasy setting.  Not near-future post-apoc.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: glen55 on January 04, 2016, 03:27:46 PM
Every now and then, I get an itch that only an action RPG can scratch.  Sometimes it itches for a while. . . . ))  Torchlight II has been my favorite, but it's just a little too cartoony graphically to keep me going indefinitely, plus it just gets harder and harder as you go on, and eventually I get tired of running from the respawn point back to the fight.  So I mix in a little Diablo II and Path of Exile.

Until I found Grim Dawn.  Grim Dawn is flat-out better than those games.  Combat is frequently challenging but never all-but-impossible - nothing like, e.g., Diablo II, where most combat is a total stroll in the park until you come to one of the nearly-unbeatable bosses.  Also unlike Diablo II, you actually use your equipped weapon in your attacks instead of having your main special attacks pull some entirely different weapon out that you must be keeping in a special pocket somewhere.

Really my only qualm so far is that the armor isn't special-looking enough, but that is a premature gripe because I haven't taken a character all the way through, or even near the end, yet.

I'm not at all sure if this is a game that will appeal to general gaming fans - my action RPG-addicted self is looking for how the finer points are handled.  Grim Dawn wins with well-balanced and flexible combat, a realistic graphic style, and large, well-stuffed maps.  Highly recommended to other ARPG addidcts.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on January 04, 2016, 05:35:24 PM
I've read that some of the purchaseable class abilities are far less useful than others, but that was also the case in Titan Quest iirc and nothing particularly new for these types of ARPGs.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 28, 2016, 03:27:05 PM
Grim Dawn has been released several days ago.
Reviews are very positive.

Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: jamus34 on February 28, 2016, 04:53:34 PM
I've probably sunk about 30 hours into it so far.

IMHO this is what Diablo 3 should have been. I know not everyone likes the Titan Quest skill tree but it allows a ton of customization and they added some additional systems above and beyond that.

Really for me it passes the fun test...and really nowadays that's all that matters to me.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on February 28, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
I'm kinda jonesing to get back into it too.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 28, 2016, 05:13:31 PM
Forgot I bought it awhile ago:)
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Gusington on February 28, 2016, 05:15:55 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 29, 2016, 02:21:54 AM
I am running the Demolitionist archetype on my main character. Feels quite powerful right from the start, but I am sure that will change once I run into higher level monsters.

The lighting and shadows engine in this game is absolutely gorgeous! Special effects glow onto other objects and sharp as well as soft shadows look very realistic.

The only thing that bothers me is the starting toon customization (none) and its looks and animations. But once you find some decent gear he or she starts to look more epic fairly quickly.

I like the fact that you can also craft things to fill up the gaps in your build and I am looking forward to the factions system and seeing what effect it has on the game long term.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 29, 2016, 07:22:06 AM
I completely forgot that this was an Early Access game when I got it. I can't imagine how much it's changed since I tried it out about a year ago.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: glen55 on February 29, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on January 04, 2016, 05:35:24 PM
I've read that some of the purchaseable class abilities are far less useful than others, but that was also the case in Titan Quest iirc and nothing particularly new for these types of ARPGs.

I've put in at least several hours on every class, and also on most of the 2-class combos.  Yes, it appears to me that some skills are better than other skills - however, every class has winner skills.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on February 29, 2016, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: glen55 on February 29, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on January 04, 2016, 05:35:24 PM
I've read that some of the purchaseable class abilities are far less useful than others, but that was also the case in Titan Quest iirc and nothing particularly new for these types of ARPGs.

I've put in at least several hours on every class, and also on most of the 2-class combos.  Yes, it appears to me that some skills are better than other skills - however, every class has winner skills.

That's all that matters!

Plus they spent the last month or two balancing the player skills & such.  O0
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: DennisS on April 03, 2016, 01:55:26 PM
I picked this up the other day, and I must say, I am enjoying this very much.

I played the original Diablo, Diablo 2 for hundreds of hours, and now Diablo III for hundreds of hours.

Add to this Sacred, and Sacred 2, and the Titan Quest series, and the entire Borderlands series. I know action RPG's, and this is as good as any of them. This is very high praise indeed, from yours truly.

Very good game, executed flawlessly.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on April 04, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
It's basically their Titan Quest with a lot of new stuff and updated goodies.

Been playing it some lately.


I do have one complaint about it - the lousy framerate performance.  Doesn't matter if I'm running it on my slower notebook, my fast desktop, or what video settings I use;  the framerate constantly dips down to below 40 fps on those various Nvidia cards I use.  Which is the point where it starts going from smooth to eye strain.

Needs more vid optimization.  Not seeing any change in the low framerate, no matter the settings, is a pretty obvious indicator.  Many other bitching about it too.  :-\

I currently put it in a borderless window, at the lowest widescreen resolution available, so it takes longer to give me a headache.  30 minutes sessions.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on April 04, 2016, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on April 04, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
It's basically their Titan Quest with a lot of new stuff and updated goodies.

Been playing it some lately.


I do have one complaint about it - the lousy framerate performance.  Doesn't matter if I'm running it on my slower notebook, my fast desktop, or what video settings I use;  the framerate constantly dips down to below 40 fps on those various Nvidia cards I use.  Which is the point where it starts going from smooth to eye strain.

Needs more vid optimization.  Not seeing any change in the low framerate, no matter the settings, is a pretty obvious indicator.  Many other bitching about it too.  :-\

I currently put it in a borderless window, at the lowest widescreen resolution available, so it takes longer to give me a headache.  30 minutes sessions.

Nefaro, you already tried the steps at https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/comments/41h6sm/i_truly_want_a_fix_for_my_fps_drop_need_help_guys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/comments/41h6sm/i_truly_want_a_fix_for_my_fps_drop_need_help_guys/)?
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on April 04, 2016, 01:47:34 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on April 04, 2016, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on April 04, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
It's basically their Titan Quest with a lot of new stuff and updated goodies.

Been playing it some lately.


I do have one complaint about it - the lousy framerate performance.  Doesn't matter if I'm running it on my slower notebook, my fast desktop, or what video settings I use;  the framerate constantly dips down to below 40 fps on those various Nvidia cards I use.  Which is the point where it starts going from smooth to eye strain.

Needs more vid optimization.  Not seeing any change in the low framerate, no matter the settings, is a pretty obvious indicator.  Many other bitching about it too.  :-\

I currently put it in a borderless window, at the lowest widescreen resolution available, so it takes longer to give me a headache.  30 minutes sessions.

Nefaro, you already tried the steps at https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/comments/41h6sm/i_truly_want_a_fix_for_my_fps_drop_need_help_guys/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdawn/comments/41h6sm/i_truly_want_a_fix_for_my_fps_drop_need_help_guys/)?


I'll give a couple of those a shot.

Changing the maxthreading number.. well if it's supported I don't know why it's always set to only use one CPU core.  Will give it a shot but I wonder if this is even working for the game.

Sounds as if the Steam Cloud Save option is causing stutter issues too.  I use cloud saves on some of these games, including this one.  So I'll give this a try if #1 doesn't do much.  Sucks having to jockey it on & off when needed though.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on April 04, 2016, 02:09:44 PM
Nope, neither of them really helped much if at all.  :-\

Tried on my notebook with all the gfx set to Low.  Watched my three extra CPU core usage while playing, with the multi-threading settings file adjustment.  Didn't notice much difference, maybe none?

Turning Steam Cloud off didn't do it either.
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on April 05, 2016, 04:28:55 PM
Sucks.  There are a number of threads out there on this one, so you've got to assume that it's just a hitch with the initial roll out and they'll get it ironed out sooner or later. 

But it's clearly blunting the enthusiasm of a significant fraction of the beta community.

At the risk of sounding patronizing, you do have the latest video drivers?    :knuppel2:
Title: Re: So, Grim Dawn (by the Titan Quest crew) is coming...?
Post by: Nefaro on April 06, 2016, 07:25:44 AM
Yeah.

It's still playable for me.  There's only very slight jittering from the fps going back & forth all the time.  But it's enough to cause eye strain and a bit of a headache after awhile.   So I only run it for about 20 minutes and then switch to something else.

Hope they can finger it out.