Is anyone actually playing this?
Have they finally returned the series to its roots, with proper private servers and bots and all.
Or do they insist to continue making it crappy like the previous game? :(
I have it, but still working my way through the campaign.
Well if you found BF3 crappy, then you will not like 4.
Don't expect the come back of private servers and bots. They have migrated to rented servers since Bad Company 2, mainly due to anti-cheating reasons tied to your progress and leaderboards. At least that was the explanation at that time.
No bots have been present anymore since then too. And none are in 4.
It has the same structure as BFBC2 and later and uses the same web browser Battlelog interface as 3.
So if those are your gripes, no nothing has changed.
Wether that makes for a crappy game I'll leave in the middle. ;)
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 02, 2013, 09:10:59 AM
Well if you found BF3 crappy, then you will not like 4.
Don't expect the come back of private servers and bots. They have migrated to rented servers since Bad Company 2, mainly due to anti-cheating reasons tied to your progress and leaderboards. At least that was the explanation at that time.
No bots have been present anymore since then too. And none are in 4.
It has the same structure as BFBC2 and later and uses the same web browser Battlelog interface as 3.
So if those are your gripes, no nothing has changed.
Wether that makes for a crappy game I'll leave in the middle. ;)
Thanks.
So I guess I'll skip on this one and wait for next year and BF5.
I'm playing it and loving it.
I think I'm on for the ps3 version with some workmates
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 02, 2013, 09:10:59 AM
Don't expect the come back of private servers and bots....No bots have been present anymore since then too. And none are in 4.
Again, this is why I think Infinity Ward might need to get a big pat on the back from PC gamers assuming their new Squads mode works well with CoD: Ghosts. They have listened to gamers and brought back a bot mode, and in a big, competitive way. I am really curious to see how how enthusiastically gamers embrace Ghosts next Tuesday for this reason alone.
Truth be told, if IW would announce a Day 1 FOV patch for Ghosts I would have pre-ordered it already. I will be getting BF4 at some point (probably with the first sale) but I am in no rush because the beta just made it seem like BF3.5.
But I am glad you guys are enjoying it. :)
I'm still on the fence with this but thanks for the comments guys. I liked BF3 but I still need some more info from the gaming community on their take on BF4.
Are you playing BF4 then on the PC W8? We will play it next year on the PS4 :)
Hi Grim,
No I don't have the game. When I do get it though I'm probably going to do like you will and get it for the PS4 next year. ;)
Here are some things I like about it so far:
1. The squad tactics actually seem pretty good. Being able to spawn in at a squad member is a huge deal and makes the game go a lot smoother and cuts down on travel downtime. It also encourages squads to stay together and support one another with medkits and ammo kits.
2. Damage seems to be realistically modeled. As in, if you run around out of cover, then you have the risk of keeping taken down extremely quickly. The sniper rifles are deadly. Regular assault rifles seem fairly accurate and do decent damage. The support-class suppression weapons also do what they are designed to do - allow you to toss up a bipod when prone and lay down a hail of fire. You actually get points for suppressing people who are then shot by a teammate, which means you can employ support tactics properly rather than worry about being the kill-shot. This makes support my favorite class so far, I just love their weapons.
3. Vehicles are powerful but not plentiful. It takes real skill to be a good helicopter pilot and, unless you have a certain type of helicopter, just flying one around is fairly useless. Now fill those babies up with men and you get a flying platform of death that is hard to take out. I was in awe as I watched the opposing team level a helicopter full of men with high-fire guns just spray death at a key location. Neat stuff. Tanks are fearsome, but also hard to come by (in fact, I rarely get to drive them, because other people have them so quickly). They can turn the tide in one area of the battlefield, but there are not enough of them to really dominate the whole field.
4. The players don't seem as obnoxious as I feared.
Good thing you like it, SoM! :)
I do suffer from frequent crashes, though, which is a real bummer. And as with every BF release; the servers have trouble with this one too.
If the server freezes or crashes, you will loose your progress for that round. If you client crashes and you do not join until the round is finished again, you keep your progress. A thing to keep in mind.
Could you test something for me?
Can you start the 64bit client and then the 32bit client and compare the sound effects? (Right click in Origin on the game and go to properties to select which version to use)
My sound effects in the 32bit client are much more 'full' or 'bombastic' than those in the 64bit client, eventhough all settings are the same!
I could not tell a difference in anything from 32 to 64 bit. The sound was pretty much identical, or perhaps just a shade better in 64-bit. I'm not exactly sure what sort of difference the two clients have.
Anyone playing a console version (PS3 / Xbox 360)? I'm waiting for the PS4 version, but I was wondering whether they fixed the rented servers / quick play option which ruined BF3 for me on XBox 360.
What fix of rented servers do you mean? If you mean the fix is to get rid of them, then no, it will not be fixed. ;)
SoM, thanks for trying the clients. Must be something caused by my X-Fi soundcard then. My sounds are truely pronounced and full in the 32bit client...
QuoteWhat fix of rentes servers do you mean?
Ys,
she means whether the quick match button will lead you to official DICE servers with default rules, or not. In BF3 DICE rented all available servers so hitting "quick match" sent you straight away into all kinds of nonsense matches (no shotguns, no RPG, vehicles only for the admin, kicked when better player than the admin or his friends etc.). Having rented servers in the game is not the problem, having no quick way to join a game with default rules is however...
Exactly, as Grimnirsson said: people may rent as many servers as they like, but is became annoying on XBox live when they rented away almost all servers and you had to do 10+ minutes research and to scroll down endless server lists before you found one of the few official servers and could start a game.
There were a few good rented servers, but most were hosted by idiots who banned you when you were too good, who constantly switched sides or who set ridiculous rules like "pistols only 5000 tickets conquest Metro" or something like that.
In the end, we spent more time searching for an OK server (the official ones were so hidden that they were almost always emtpy), and when you hit the "quick match" button, it was like playing Russian roulette... and I don't like to play a match with so many tickets that completing it would take 1 hour, only to be kicked five minutes before game end because I dared to used a "prohibited" weapon.
My only concern for BF4 is: will I be able to get into a "normal" game when I hit "quick search" or will I be randomly dropped into bizarre and completely unentertaining freak servers? I want to spend my valuable leisure time playing the game, not searching for one. 8)
Ah I see. I got a bad form of bias there because of the continued discussion about rented vs private servers (not only here). I am sorry. :)
The issue you describe is actually annoying and is a problem on the PC version as well. The way I circumvent this involves some research, but once you have several servers that are fun to you I just flag them as favorite server.
Still, quick join does not take favorites into account, but joining a server from your fav list is as quick as joining a quick game.
I have no idea wether this is also possible on the consoles?
Hah, the idiot banning on some servers is very familiar! :) There is so much anxiety about cheaters among the BF community, that oftentimes if you are just playing well people start calling you a cheater.
I think with the reporting tool since BF3, staying away from Russian servers and Punkbuster cheating has become much less of a problem.
The community now has tools to report and I find people actively using those.
Of course, when you are being falsely accused of being a cheater you will probably also get reported as every idiot can press that button.
Our Squad never had any issues though, so either DICE does nothing with reports or they look at each case quite well.
Point is I find the general opinion about the BF community being full of cheaters far overstated.
I'm almost positive there is a 'official servers only' tick box on the ps3
Quote from: undercovergeek on November 04, 2013, 06:30:32 AM
I'm almost positive there is a 'official servers only' tick box on the ps3
That would be entirely sufficient :) I always wished I had such a simple tick box in BF3, it would have solved all my problems...
@Yskonyn, yes, the fav list was also available on the BF3 XBox version.
A word of warning.
I don't know how "big" this is, but my friend (IT Manager at my work) had his Origin account hacked by someone in Russia apparently and it turns out not only has he played the entire campaign, but he's made quite a few levels. Seems someone has been playing under his account details.
He had the text option set for if logging into the account from a different source...but didn't receive anything. He says Origin was hacked and it was kept quiet.
I don't know how true that bit is or how he came about the info - what I do know is when he let me know, I went to login to my Origin account and it was saying my username/password was invalid. I KNOW for a fact I was typing the correct details in but it wouldn't let me log in. I had to opt to change the password and I got an email and followed it to reset the password. I'm not saying my account was hacked, but I do think it's possible because of the hack that Origin may have reset passwords. I don't know how "global" it is or whether it's regional...no idea.
Just a warning.
This is what I feared:
Battlefield 4 dogged by major launch issues: connection errors, glitches, dodgy netcode (http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/11/04/battlefield-4-dogged-by-major-launch-issues-connection-errors-glitches-dodgy-netcode/)
QuoteWhere to start? That must be the big question facing DICE right now as they try and wrangle Battlefield 4 into a stable state. Players have been reporting disconnection errors, freezes, crashes and a smattering of bugs. DICE have tabled a list of fixes they're working on on the Battlefield 4 forums, which includes a bug that stops server queues from working and various client instability problems.
Glad I waited.
All Battlefield games I played (all on console) had serious problems for quite some time before everything went smoothly so I'm not surprised. I think when I get the PS4 and the game in 2014 everything will work ;)
Quote from: RooksBailey on November 04, 2013, 04:19:18 PM
This is what I feared:
Battlefield 4 dogged by major launch issues: connection errors, glitches, dodgy netcode (http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/11/04/battlefield-4-dogged-by-major-launch-issues-connection-errors-glitches-dodgy-netcode/)
QuoteWhere to start? That must be the big question facing DICE right now as they try and wrangle Battlefield 4 into a stable state. Players have been reporting disconnection errors, freezes, crashes and a smattering of bugs. DICE have tabled a list of fixes they're working on on the Battlefield 4 forums, which includes a bug that stops server queues from working and various client instability problems.
Glad I waited.
Just to note, I have only had a few connection issues and never gotten dropped from an active game. My only minor annoyance is that the loading times are very long and it seems like you have to wait as the game downloads a lot of data from the servers before you can play. I was actually impressed at how smooth my experience was, so YMMV.
Loading times are long indeed, especially the first time the game is started for the day. What seriously helps here is an SSD.
My squadmates are running around on the map for about a minute / minute and a half before I can with my regular HDD.
There was this article about the hack
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/11/14/ea-origin-accounts-hacked-time-change-your-passwords/
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 05, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
There was this article about the hack
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/11/14/ea-origin-accounts-hacked-time-change-your-passwords/
JD, I remember that hack last year. They sent us a big email and then forced all users to change passwords. So needing a new password does not indicates you were personally hacked. But scammers and phishing schemes are still fairly prevalent for all these major retailers.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on November 05, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 05, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
There was this article about the hack
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/11/14/ea-origin-accounts-hacked-time-change-your-passwords/
JD, I remember that hack last year. They sent us a big email and then forced all users to change passwords. So needing a new password does not indicates you were personally hacked. But scammers and phishing schemes are still fairly prevalent for all these major retailers.
MY account wasn't hacked - but my password had been reset - and I suspect by Origin/EA as a precaution.
But my pals account
has been hacked. Be aware.
My account appears to be ok and my password has not been reset so far ???
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 05, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on November 05, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 05, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
There was this article about the hack
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/11/14/ea-origin-accounts-hacked-time-change-your-passwords/
JD, I remember that hack last year. They sent us a big email and then forced all users to change passwords. So needing a new password does not indicates you were personally hacked. But scammers and phishing schemes are still fairly prevalent for all these major retailers.
MY account wasn't hacked - but my password had been reset - and I suspect by Origin/EA as a precaution.
But my pals account has been hacked. Be aware.
Interesting you guys brought this up cuz I had my BF 3 account hacked last year by some Russian punks who were playing on my account. I layed into them pretty heavy with some serious trash talk and how they are giving Russian culture a bad name with all the sketchy internet fraud and hacking that is coming out of there lately. I reported it to EA and reset my passwords, haven't had a problem since.
Funny thing was that the Russian hackers actually responded by saying "please let us keep playing on your account, we are poor and can't afford to buy battlefield". I was like if your that poor and your out hacking video games, your priorities are messed up.
Oh loving the game by the way, so much better than BF 3. The crashes are extremely annoying, I have learned to avoid maxed out 64 servers as for me those usually crash every other round. I found a few 48 player servers that will go for 10 straight rounds before a crash.
When you do get a crash, go back to the server and see if everyone is still playing. If it was a crash on your side, wait for the round to end before rejoining, and your stats will update. If the crash was on the server and there are no players still in, then your stats are gone, so your free to rejoin any where.
I've been able to level up pretty quick, but the skill rating is all f'up this time around. If you kill a higher level player or get killed by a lower level player, it drastically affects your skill rating. Also I get like negative 20 skill for winning a round as commander and killing a couple guys with tomahawk missles....wtf.
Quote from: Hiimori on November 05, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
My account appears to be ok and my password has not been reset so far ???
It was a year or more ago and it might have only been a localized thing of a certain group of users.
It is tiring to see that one has to be constantly vigilant against phising scams, password theft, and account hacking, but that is the world in which we live. Steam is also something to watch, btw, but I think they instituted an ISP tracking security measure that locks you out if you suddenly change ISP and don't authenticate it.