Shogun 2: Gold Edition coming

[Gusington]

There are some other different diplomatic units too eh? I read that it is possible to get regions over to the player's side through diplomacy and never have to fight, moreso than in other TW games.

[Nefaro]

There are some other different diplomatic units too eh? I read that it is possible to get regions over to the player's side through diplomacy and never have to fight, moreso than in other TW games.

The diplomacy in Shogun 2 TW was definitely an improvement as allying with others actually worked for fairly long stretches of time, if you didn't piss them off, unlike previous TWs where they just seemed to increasingly hate you no matter what.  While S2TW's realm divide hit would do the same once it activated, that generally didn't happen until you were pretty damn big and on the verge of utterly steamrolling everyone else, and even then your staunchest allies took a little while to turn on you.  So it wasn't near as bad as previous TWs, despite some of the modifiers for certain actions being a little over- or under-valued.

[Silent Disapproval Robot]

There are some other different diplomatic units too eh? I read that it is possible to get regions over to the player's side through diplomacy and never have to fight, moreso than in other TW games.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to.  you get a priest type guy called a Sou.  Functions similarly to the monk but has a few extra abilities thrown in.  He can get enemy agents to retire and can cause a province to revolt.

There's a ninja/spy type guy called a Monomi.  Does the ninja/saboteur stuff and also acts as a scout.

There's a geisha type unit.  I can't remember the word for it.  Shiroboyoshi or something like that.  (but that makes no sense in Japanese).  Can increase general's loyalty, seduce enemy units/generals, and demoralize enemy armies.

There's an administrator type guy called a Junsatsushi.  he can convince neutral clans to become join your clan.  He stops saboteurs, and he can bribe armies/agents.

[undercovergeek]

Is it good to go right off the bat or are you guys modding the game?

[Gusington]

Thanks SDR those are the droids I was looking for.

Geek there is not much in the way of mods the Shogun 2...only 3 or 4.

[Nefaro]

Is it good to go right off the bat or are you guys modding the game?

I'd suggest playing S2TW vanilla at least once.  It's fun of it's own accord and doesn't really need a lot extra IMO.

IIRC, my last mods used were some that slowed down the speed of units (although didn't CA slow them down in a later update too?) and one that makes the Realm Divide set in more slowly so that my allies didn't go from best buds to complete hatred  and wardec in the span of 3 seasons.  Still that last bit will give you a nice challenge when you're coming in on the last stretch to victory, with your hair on fire.

[Sir Slash]

The Administrator-type guy that bribes provinces over to your control can only do so if the province is of the same Family Alignment as yours. There're 3 familys in the game and all factions belong to one of them. If the province is the same as yours, you can "Request Alliegance" for a price and if successful, it's yours. If it's of another Family Alignment, no request can be made. The characters that can do this after a couple of experience gains can become very powerful and early on, you can expand quickly this way. However, if the province is part of a multi-province faction, requesting alliegance is considered an act of war and you'll have to cancel it or fight them even if allied with them. So as the factions start to enlarge, this unit becomes less valuable. He can still bribe rival agents out of the game though.

[Silent Disapproval Robot]

In the later stages, I found him to be useful for administering provinces when I didn't have enough family member/Generals to go around. 

[Gusington]

Sounds like a pretty interesting dynamic and unique in the series.

[Sir Slash]

Dammit. All this ROTS talk has got me hooked back into playing it again. I knew this would happen if I didn't ignore this thread.

[Gusington]

You're welcome. I'm going to be playing it next I think.

[Gusington]

Also, fresh from me stating that there are not a lot of Shogun 2 mods out,  new one called Tenke Fubu is now available over at TWC.