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Started by Greybriar, April 17, 2013, 05:38:30 PM

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Rayfer

Quote from: SgtRock on April 20, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
I was a big fan of Empire Deluxe but, Empires of Steel never grabbed me for some reason. It's sad that an independent developer can't make it, especially when it comes to wargames. Strange that he can't get this on Steam, same with Panzer Corps, does Steam hate wargames?

Maybe never having played Empire Deluxe worked in my advantage in liking Empires of Steel.

Martok

Quote from: SgtRock on April 20, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
Strange that he can't get this on Steam, same with Panzer Corps, does Steam hate wargames?
I suspect not "hate" so much as "never heard/not even aware of"... 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

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JudgeDredd

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and have been declining ever since with occasional jumps due to a sale
wait a minute - that can't be right!  ;)

Yeah - sad news hearing of someone's problem when all they wanted to do was provide people with happy spare times...and make a buck of course.
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Jarhead0331

Quote from: Martok on April 22, 2013, 06:01:31 AM
Quote from: SgtRock on April 20, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
Strange that he can't get this on Steam, same with Panzer Corps, does Steam hate wargames?
I suspect not "hate" so much as "never heard/not even aware of"...

Come on guys...this is just silly.  Panzer Corps is on Greenlight.  If it doesn't get enough votes, its not Steam's vault.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


SgtRock

I'm sure Steam is aware of Empires of Steel and Panzer Corps, there are webs sites that have metrics for every computer game sold. What I don't understand, how do games like (La-Mulana, Papo & Yo, and tons of other no name games) get on Steam, yet something like Panzer Corps has to be Greenlighted?

Jarhead0331

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Quote from: SgtRock on April 22, 2013, 11:25:36 AM
I'm sure Steam is aware of Empires of Steel and Panzer Corps, there are webs sites that have metrics for every computer game sold. What I don't understand, how do games like (La-Mulana, Papo & Yo, and tons of other no name games) get on Steam, yet something like Panzer Corps has to be Greenlighted?

You're right.  Clearly, it is an international Steam conspiracy against wargames.

...and by the way, La Mulana did enter steam through greenlight.  Papo & Yo does not seem to have been greenlit, but it is award winning, and not exactly a "no name game."  I do agree though, its not a game I would want to play either.  ;)
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Martok

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2013, 06:58:04 AM
Quote from: Martok on April 22, 2013, 06:01:31 AM
Quote from: SgtRock on April 20, 2013, 10:36:53 AM
Strange that he can't get this on Steam, same with Panzer Corps, does Steam hate wargames?
I suspect not "hate" so much as "never heard/not even aware of"...

Come on guys...this is just silly.  Panzer Corps is on Greenlight.  If it doesn't get enough votes, its not Steam's vault.
Need to clarify two things: 


1.)  You're indeed correct that, strictly speaking, my statement was inaccurate.  What I should have said was, "Those who vote for Greenlight-nominated games on Steam are generally unaware of wargames."  In fact, I give kudos to Steam for having wargames available for potential Greenlighting at all. 

2.)  My statement was not intended as a criticism in any case.  Yes, I certainly *wish* folks were more aware of wargames, but I don't blame them for not being so. 


If there is a "conspiracy", it's merely one of ignorance. 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Jarhead0331

Quote from: Martok on April 22, 2013, 12:21:56 PM

If there is a "conspiracy", it's merely one of ignorance.

...and that is where Grogheads comes in!
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Martok

Wise words, Counselor.  8) 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Arctic Blast

Quote from: SgtRock on April 22, 2013, 11:25:36 AM
I'm sure Steam is aware of Empires of Steel and Panzer Corps, there are webs sites that have metrics for every computer game sold. What I don't understand, how do games like (La-Mulana, Papo & Yo, and tons of other no name games) get on Steam, yet something like Panzer Corps has to be Greenlighted?

Both of those games were already somewhat known in the general gaming public as they'd been out for a year or so on consoles as downloadable titles, and they were well received there. Panzer Corps is known to...uhhh...well, us and other similar communities. So you have 2 indie games that have already proven successful and have a bit of a buzz vs. another that doesn't have the same amount of buzz.

Beyond that, if a game is produced by a publisher already on Steam, that makes it a lot easier for future releases from that company to be sold on Steam as well. They're already a known entity on the platform, so they don't necessarily have to jump through the Greenlight hoop any longer.