Eador: Masters of the Broken World

[Tpek]

Yeah, but they didn't bother to distribute the patch to GOG.
Instead they want people to use their broken and non-working patcher to download it. :P

[Rayfer]

Is it like the first game where you can only save as you exit the game, thus preventing you from saving before a tough battle so that you can reload and fight it again?

[Tpek]

Is it like the first game where you can only save as you exit the game, thus preventing you from saving before a tough battle so that you can reload and fight it again?

I remember this being in Genesis as well.

[Rayfer]

Is it like the first game where you can only save as you exit the game, thus preventing you from saving before a tough battle so that you can reload and fight it again?

I remember this being in Genesis as well.

Yes, I was referring to Genesis (I thought that was the first game in this series?)...I was wondering if Masters of the Broken World works the same way or not? 

[tgb]

You can save any time in Masters.

[Nefaro]

Yeah, but they didn't bother to distribute the patch to GOG.
Instead they want people to use their broken and non-working patcher to download it. :P

Did they release that update?  I thought it was 'in the works'?

I plan on getting it trhough GOG, when I do.  What's this non-working patcher thing?

[mikeck]

Yes, patch is out. Apparently the auto installer for GoG doesn't work. I always use Steam to purchase games when I can so i can't say.

[JasonPratt]

I'll be getting it later, too many other games I'm working on right now. (Besides this gets the bughunts out of the way.)

[Yskonyn]

+1 although with the rate my Dom 3 empire is failing now, I might have some time soon! ;)

[FarAway Sooner]

I've been holding off on first impressions for more than a week in large part because the game has been such a moving target.  Snowbird has pushed out 4 patches in the first week, which says 2 things:

• The game wasn't quite ready for release and they should have held off.  For whatever reasons (contractual obligations, trying to time their release between other competitor releases, etc.), they chose not to.  That said, it's not like 1/4 of the titles out there aren't released in the same state.
• They're quickly whipping the game into shape.  The auto-updater now seems to work just fine, and they're stomping out most of the universal game-affecting bugs (there are still a few which are causing real problems.  But the team is committed to the game, and they've done more to remedy a buggy game release in the first seven days than lots of shops with 5x the budget will do in the first seven weeks.

My sense is that it's whipping into shape nicely and should be ready for a deep review in another couple weeks.  A number of the longtime Eador players were expecting MotBW to, at release, be Genesis with a boob job, and in that expectation they've been sorely disappointed.  But, with a few more patches under its belt, it'll be a much more beautiful version of Genesis with better tooltips, good documentation, streamlined campaign play, and a few added features.  Basically, I think it's shaping up to be everything I hoped it would be, but without real MP (which is a significant omission, but for $20, I'm not expecting the moon).

After seeing the pace of updates in the first week, I'm very optimistic that the game is shaping up nicely.  Folks who never played Genesis before seem to love it, by and large.  In the meantime, I'd honestly recommend holding off on it for another few weeks, just to give it a little more time to mature and to make sure that they continue to stamp out the bugs.

I'm planning to submit a review of MotBW, but not until the game state has settled down a little bit and I've had more chance to test the state of that "settled" game state.  Think I'll go play it for an hour right now while both my kids are sleeping, though!!   ;D
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[mikeck]

I think when Steam agrees to distribute a game, they basically force you to release on the date that was initially agreed to in the contract. They tell the developer "don't worry, with our system you can release as many patches as you want as soon as you want". Seems that alot of these indie releases on steam take a few weeks to get patched up. Same with StarDrive. I like it alot but it could have used a few more weeks

[Arctic Blast]

I think when Steam agrees to distribute a game, they basically force you to release on the date that was initially agreed to in the contract. They tell the developer "don't worry, with our system you can release as many patches as you want as soon as you want". Seems that alot of these indie releases on steam take a few weeks to get patched up. Same with StarDrive. I like it alot but it could have used a few more weeks

Don't forget that indie devs aren't exactly sitting on piles of money. That 4 extra weeks of development is 4 extra weeks of expenditures with no revenue coming in. It also adds to the overall development bill, meaning you now need more sales just to break even. And any time a game is delayed, a lot of potential buyers start wondering about it and go from "I'll buy on Day 1" to "Oh, it must be a mess. I'd better wait."

[son_of_montfort]

Yes, Steam has a release schedule and they fit you into "blocks" around the big-time releases (a few of which are coming in the next weeks and months). So indie developers basically have to take what they are assigned depending on the blockbusters. This is a big downside to Greenlight, it allows for "releases" that are actually just continuations of the beta.

[Martok]

SpaceSector has posted their review.  It's notable for at least a couple reasons: 

1.)  The author waited until now to do the review because he so many issues with various bugs the first month after release. 

2.)  He has only been able to get about halfway through the campaign. 



I didn't realize that Masters of the Broken World isn't a true "sandbox" 4x game like MOM or the Elemental series.  That alone is kind of a turn-off for me. 

[tgb]

What do you mean?  In addition to the campaign there are random maps.