EVE Online??

[Nefaro]

EVE is awesome.  I am impressed you picked up the UI so fast.
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I thought the Eve UI was easy.  It's just basic left- and right-click Windows functionality throughout the whole thing.

The learning curve comes from the wide range of goods & the varied uses for all the specialized chip equipment, classes, etc, and being dropped off in the deep end of the sandbox after a stretch of tutorial missions that only teach you the basics.

[Huw the Poo]

Hey for the retired EVE players you mind signing on one last time to dump your cash and assets on to me?  ;D ;D ;D

Haha, otherwise known as "can I have your stuff?"  I'd gladly give you mine if you paid for me to sub for the month...however if you were prepared to do that you may as well just buy a PLEX and sell it on the market for mucho ISKies.  I don't have anything of particular value anyway...a battleship, an interceptor, a couple of battlecruisers, probably quite a lot of cruisers, frigates and destroyers and a few Iterons.  I used to have the special edition Gallente shuttle but sold it for a LOT of ISK. :D

Not much else...maybe a few blueprints (it's been so long I can't remember).  Probably a load of salvage I haven't bothered to do anything with.  Nothing you can't get just buying and selling a PLEX.

[jejo68]

EVE is awesome.  I am impressed you picked up the UI so fast.
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I thought the Eve UI was easy.  It's just basic left- and right-click Windows functionality throughout the whole thing.

The learning curve comes from the wide range of goods & the varied uses for all the specialized chip equipment, classes, etc, and being dropped off in the deep end of the sandbox after a stretch of tutorial missions that only teach you the basics.

You really need to get into a decent player corp to learn all the ropes. thankfully there are many corps that take in newbies and teach them the ropes.

[Nefaro]

EVE is awesome.  I am impressed you picked up the UI so fast.
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I thought the Eve UI was easy.  It's just basic left- and right-click Windows functionality throughout the whole thing.

The learning curve comes from the wide range of goods & the varied uses for all the specialized chip equipment, classes, etc, and being dropped off in the deep end of the sandbox after a stretch of tutorial missions that only teach you the basics.

You really need to get into a decent player corp to learn all the ropes. thankfully there are many corps that take in newbies and teach them the ropes.

Yeah.  Even more so than other MMOs, you gotta be in an active Corp.  I never found a decent casual one.

There are "workshops" held to teach specific facets of the game.  I recall dropping in on one of those chat channels and taking some notes.  I believe it was about exploring wormholes or something.  It's stuff like this that gives it a learning curve, but at least there are people willing to hold such Q&A sessions to help others learn. 

[Huw the Poo]

There's a corp called Eve University - I assume it's still active - who took it upon themselves to take in newbies and teach them the ropes.  Apparently it's quite an experience; you get to learn every aspect of the game, and soon find yourself part of a roaming warband, learning how to fight in low-sec space.

[panzerde]

I've been mulling over re-subbing for the past several days.  I'm in the mood for just this sort of game, and none of the interesting single-player games that have been Kickstarted recently are ready to go yet.

Like others note, though, it's SUCH a time sink.  I really don't have the time, and like Nef I've never found a good casual guild.  Maybe we should start one?

[panzerde]

Well, I sucked it up and resubbed.  Played my old character awhile yesterday, but I think I'm going to start fresh with an explorer-oriented toon.  Probably more solo options that way.

[Nefaro]

Well, I sucked it up and resubbed.  Played my old character awhile yesterday, but I think I'm going to start fresh with an explorer-oriented toon.  Probably more solo options that way.

Doesn't it take awhile (& a chunk of isk) before your character is trained up enough to explore wormholes?

[panzerde]

Doesn't it take awhile (& a chunk of isk) before your character is trained up enough to explore wormholes?

I think that's probably just about anything in Eve.  Which is why I ended up back on my old character after creating the new one and getting a sense that it was going to take awhile before I could do anything interesting.

Not that my original character is much better!

[jejo68]

Doesn't it take awhile (& a chunk of isk) before your character is trained up enough to explore wormholes?

I think that's probably just about anything in Eve.  Which is why I ended up back on my old character after creating the new one and getting a sense that it was going to take awhile before I could do anything interesting.

Not that my original character is much better!

not really. you can get into good pvp in about 1 week if your in corp.
pve can be done from day 1 but ofcourse it will take time to be able to do the harder ones.
Wormholes takes a while to get into especially if your solo as Theres a ton of support skills you need to train just to move around there in relative safety

[GDS_Starfury]

Wormholes takes a while to get into especially if your solo as Theres a ton of support skills you need to train just to move around there in relative safety

this sounds like good advice for a night out at the pub.

[TheCommandTent]

I tried Eve once a while ago but like others have said I just did not have the time to properly commit to the game.  It is definitely not a casual game.  And then there is the learning curve...

[Greybriar]

I cancelled my EVE subscription a little over a week ago or I'd ask those of you still playing if you want my stuff.  ;)

[panzerde]

not really. you can get into good pvp in about 1 week if your in corp.
pve can be done from day 1 but ofcourse it will take time to be able to do the harder ones.
Wormholes takes a while to get into especially if your solo as Theres a ton of support skills you need to train just to move around there in relative safety

My problem is that I've read so much about people being rat bastards in Eve that I'm very, very leery of everyone. Combine that with not wanting to get into the same feeling that Corp/Guild activities turn into a second job because you *have* to show up to stuff to be a good Corp/Guild member, and I'm having a devil of a time finding a Corp.  I'm also not keen on the idea of being in a Corp with a bunch of 17 year-olds.

Any time this weekend I wasn't playing Eve I was looking around for a decent single player alternative.  There just isn't anything of the scope or the non-twitch approach, the ship variety, the exploration, or the graphics as Eve. Why does every space sim out there park you in a dinky single seat fighter and then expect you to believe that you're going to cover light years over the course of months crammed into a small cockpit?

People like to hold up X3TC or X3AP as "Eve Offline," but having played close to 200 hours of those games I can tell you they aren't.  It turns out the to me at least Eve is still a better SP experience than any other SP Space Sim on the market today.

I'm really hoping the Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous change the situation.  I think I'm going to give Vega Strike a try tonight, but I'm not optimistic.

[Nefaro]

My problem is that I've read so much about people being rat bastards in Eve that I'm very, very leery of everyone. Combine that with not wanting to get into the same feeling that Corp/Guild activities turn into a second job because you *have* to show up to stuff to be a good Corp/Guild member, and I'm having a devil of a time finding a Corp.  I'm also not keen on the idea of being in a Corp with a bunch of 17 year-olds.

I agree - these are also the biggest issues I have with Eve.

It resembles more of a job than a hobby, with many Corps.  My own MMO guild has never officially moved over to it because of the "rat bastard" stories.  Finding a similarly minded & mature corp/guild, that isn't run like the Gestapo, has never been as easy as I'd hoped (in any MMO) and the task seems overwhelming in Eve.