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Kushan

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 10:10:37 AM

I suppose I should install the utilities first (is there a recommended install order between them?) And then... the graphics mods? UI? Doesn't really matter?


Install order really only matters for graphics mods where you may want one texture to overwrite another. For instance I use the BGM mod for Glass armor, (which also retextures elven armor) but I use aMidianBorn for elven. So I install BGM first then aMidianBorn's and have them overwrite BGM's elven armor textures. The beuty of using the Nexus Mod manager is that if I should ever decide I want to use the BGM elven textures all I have to do it deactivate the mod and NMM will revert back to BGM textures automatically. I would install utilities first then start downloading and installing mods.
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JasonPratt

How does all this synch up with Steam, btw? When I install the two (?) mod utilities, where am I supposed to put them, or the other mods?
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PanzersEast

#77
Once steam installs skyrim and you download the NMM and SKSE you will use Nexud Mod Manager to install mods and launch Skyrim through SKSE shortcut, you will only need stream running in the background.  BOSS is only ran after you install a mod or group of mods through NMM.

All mods that I am using together are here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoMAya5hEIotdGlkMWRyTkdaOXNjaEF1Tmk4QnkwSWc&usp=sharing/

I need to update front page.


PE

JasonPratt

Thanks, PE! I was comparing your front page to your spreadsheet that you linked to previously. (I think both links are the same, although you'll be updating that sheet periodically.)
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

Kushan

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
What does "ENB" at the top of the spreadsheet mean?

END is a graphics mod of sorts. It "injects" various graphic settings into the game, most of which are not already included in the base game. There are a ton of different presets you can download. I personally don't use it for several reasons. I prefer Imaginator to customize/fine tune the look of my game and with most of the ENB presets I have tried there is a pretty significant performance hit due to how it injects settings into the game.
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#80
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
PE, are you updating the front page still?

Also, you seem to be using selected portions of Nernies and the ExTownCit sets; is that right? And you're no longer using the Corners or the Campsites?

I've bought and installed Hearthfire, but not Dragonborn or Dawnguard (waiting for those to go on sale. ;) ) You've got the updates to those installed, so I presume you've installed those DLC, too. Does Hearthfire interfere with BuildAHouse or do they compliment one another?

Dynamic timescale seems super-important if other mods are installed.  ???

I suppose I should install the utilities first (is there a recommended install order between them?) And then... the graphics mods? UI? Doesn't really matter?

I didn't see autosave manager on the list anymore; is that because it's combined with Dynamic timescaling now?

What does "ENB" at the top of the spreadsheet mean?

ENB is graphics enhancement files.

Corners and Campsites conflicted and I hate it did as I really liked them but had to remove them.
Fleetford is one of my favorite town addons and they conflicted with it :-(


Nernies had issues and another person separated them so I used the seperate files so I could use more mods.

I can post a guide if you like with step by step of how I setup my current install if you want.

Spreadsheet will be most up to date and what is running together and not just suggestions.  They should all work together and I will continue to update and note any changes. 

Did not have a single crash or freeze last night.


PE




JasonPratt

Many thanks! I've now registered at Nexus and installed NMM and run Skyrim once to get its ini file set up so NMM will recognize and work with it.

Next I suppose will be installing SKSE.

I suppose mods from Steam are simply set up through the Steam Workshop thingy, not through NMM?
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

JasonPratt

#82
SKSE installed. Apparently I forgot to tell Steam to add a start menu item, so I created a new one pointing to SKSE.

Can't quite figure out how to do the same thing from within Steam yet, so I'll have to be careful not to run the game by pointing to it in the Steam menu -- use my Classic Start Shell instead....


Next up: BOSS now installed and run for the first time, detects SKSE and all three Skyrim functionals (the primary exe, the update and Hearthfire currently). Says this about the update and the Hearthfire DLC: "Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here."

Should I bother with that at all, or will the various unofficial patches deal with that?


Meanwhile: I'm going to guess my next installs should be the unofficial patches (for main exe and then Hearthfire) and then the three main overhauls listed afterward.
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

PanzersEast

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
Many thanks! I've now registered at Nexus and installed NMM and run Skyrim once to get its ini file set up so NMM will recognize and work with it.

Next I suppose will be installing SKSE.

I suppose mods from Steam are simply set up through the Steam Workshop thingy, not through NMM?

That is correct, do not install mods through STEAM as they will automatically update and that can cause problems.  A couple maybe Steam only but you can skip them.


1. Install Steam and Run once
2. Install NMM
3. Install SKSE and run from the skse_loader.exe file (always launch Skyrim from this)
4. Install Unoffical Skyrim Patch from Nexus
5. Install SkyRe
6. Install SkyRe Uncap mod
7. Install SkyUI
8. Install BOSS and have the exe handy
9. Start installing mods at will (just double check to make sure there are no prerequisites)




PE

PanzersEast

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
SKSE installed. Apparently I forgot to tell Steam to add a start menu item, so I created a new one pointing to SKSE.

Can't quite figure out how to do the same thing from within Steam yet, so I'll have to be careful not to run the game by pointing to it in the Steam menu -- use my Classic Start Shell instead....


Next up: BOSS now installed and run for the first time, detects SKSE and all three Skyrim functionals (the primary exe, the update and Hearthfire currently). Says this about the update and the Hearthfire DLC: "Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here."

Should I bother with that at all, or will the various unofficial patches deal with that?

Skip TES5Edit for now, that can get dicey and some of the dirty edits will not effect the game.

PE

JasonPratt

Quote from: PanzersEast on May 11, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
That is correct, do not install mods through STEAM as they will automatically update and that can cause problems.  A couple maybe Steam only but you can skip them.

Well, you do have a couple from Steam yourself in the list; which is why I asked. :)

So if I decide to use those two towns (Amber Guard and Oakwood) (which I may not), I do those through Steam Workshop, not NMM?


Quote from: PanzersEast on May 11, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
1. Install Steam and Run once
2. Install NMM
3. Install SKSE and run from the skse_loader.exe file (always launch Skyrim from this)
4. Install Unoffical Skyrim Patch from Nexus
5. Install SkyRe
6. Install SkyRe Uncap mod
7. Install SkyUI
8. Install BOSS and have the exe handy
9. Start installing mods at will (just double check to make sure there are no prerequisites)

I've already installed BOSS, is that a problem? (Seems like it shouldn't be...)
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

PanzersEast

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on May 11, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
That is correct, do not install mods through STEAM as they will automatically update and that can cause problems.  A couple maybe Steam only but you can skip them.

Well, you do have a couple from Steam yourself in the list; which is why I asked. :)

So if I decide to use those two towns (Amber Guard and Oakwood) (which I may not), I do those through Steam Workshop, not NMM?


Quote from: PanzersEast on May 11, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
1. Install Steam and Run once
2. Install NMM
3. Install SKSE and run from the skse_loader.exe file (always launch Skyrim from this)
4. Install Unoffical Skyrim Patch from Nexus
5. Install SkyRe
6. Install SkyRe Uncap mod
7. Install SkyUI
8. Install BOSS and have the exe handy
9. Start installing mods at will (just double check to make sure there are no prerequisites)

I've already installed BOSS, is that a problem? (Seems like it shouldn't be...)

Yes for the Steam ones... they are not hosted on Nexus unfortunately (I recommend Oakwood).

Does not matter on BOSS, it is third party so no biggie.




PE

PanzersEast

My current install order:


Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
JSwords.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
MTAutoStorage.esm=1
Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1
Ranger Ridge.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1
WinterholdDestruction.esm=1
FF Jolly Horker.esm=1
Proudspire Manor Refurbished.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
FishingInSkyrim.esp=1
Immersive Battles.esp=1
Immersive Brigands.esp=1
Immersive Factions.esp=1
Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1
Immersive Patrols.esp=1
Immersive Travelers.esp=1
Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
vAutosaveManager.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
+ MATHERIAN_VIKING_SHIELDS_SET +.esp=1
ApotheusLightArmor_by_GuitunScarfin.esp=1
Archer's.esp=1
blackswordsman.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
ExiledBladesArmor.esp=1
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
isilnarsil.esp=1
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1
LostLongSwords.esp=1
nomo1.esp=1
Nordic Conqueror Armor.esp=1
nordicrangerarmor.esp=1
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp=1
RangerArmor.esp=1
scoutarmor.esp=1
Skyrim Knights.esp=1
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp=1
UniqueBows.esp=1
Wandererarmor.esp=1
3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
TheHelm.esp=1
SkyRe_Main.esp=1
SkyRe_Combat.esp=1
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1
AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp=1
Ancient Knowledge Armour.esp=1
Beautiful Whiterun.esp=1
Bridge Farm.esp=1
buildablehouse.esp=1
Castle Stonespire.esp=1
RIC_Dawnstar.esp=1
Dragon Falls Manor.esp=1
DusksCabin.esp=1
Elvenwood.esp=1
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp=1
flaho_shi_wassersturz.esp=1
Fleetford.esp=1
Forgotten Windmill.esp=1
aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp=1
heartwoodcottage1_v2.esp=1
Immersive Events.esp=1
LimbwoodManor.esp=1
Orlong's Hearth vdot9.esp=1
Pinewoods Cottage.esp=1
Ranger Ridge.esp=1
RealisticWhiterun.esp=1
RiversideLodge.esp=1
Secluded Cottage.esp=1
Snowbound Acres.esp=1
Stag'sRest.esp=1
Sutvaka2.esp=1
thesnakepit.esp=1
WhiteFallsHouse.esp=1
whiterunexenhanced.esp=1
Woodland sanctuary.esp=1
AchieveThat.esp=1
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=1
tos_amber_guard.esp=1
tos_laintardale.esp=1
tos_oakwood.esp=1
townsandcitiesenhanced.esp=0
L0S and TaVE patch.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp=1
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp=1
ESFAela.esp=1
GameofThrones-Followers.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1
SkyRe_Races.esp=1
Purewaters.esp=1
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
HuntersLodge.esp=1
Jonathan - The Ranger.esp=1
BHWarPaints.esp=1
darkelffollower.esp=1
stormcloakrobes.esp=1
lightthiefarmor.esp=1
superiorbladesarmor.esp=1
thief guild master armor.esp=1
Armor Dovahkiin & Forest Elves.esp=1
LakeviewCottage_MAIN.esp=1
FF Jolly Horker 1.esp=1
dragontooth den.esp=1
Falkreath Cottage.esp=1
OBIS.esp=1
ajd_morthalghastlymine.esp=1
SkyRe_LostLongSwords.esp=1
Hunterborn.esp=1
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp=1
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1
DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp=1
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1
FrostflakeRetreat.esp=1
AesirArmor.esp=1
thiefs nook redux.esp=1
newwfollowerdb.esp=1
TB_EhancedLightandFX-patch.esp=1
thane's breezehome(v.4.1).esp=1
vImmersiveBeds.esp=1
Windhelm Lighthouse.esp=1
mtMC.esp=1
Deerhornknives.esp=1
Immersive Stonehills.esp=1
Immersive Shors stone.esp=1
Immersive Rorikstead.esp=1
Immersive Riverwood.esp=1
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1
Immersive Morthal.esp=1
Immersive Kynesgrove.esp=1
Immersive Karthwasten.esp=1
Immersive Ivarstead.esp=1
Immersive Falkreath.esp=1
Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp=1
Immersive Dawnstar.esp=1
Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp=1
NerniesWhiterun.esp=1
NerniesSolitude.esp=1
NerniesWindhelm.esp=1


JasonPratt

Right, good, up to NMMing SkyUI now.

Other UI's next I guess, then on to main graphic mods.

Back to the Autosave question: is that part of another mod now? I don't see it anywhere unless it's part of the Dynamic Timescale mod you're testing, but you heavily recommended it in your opening list.


Heh, I saw part of your order as "Jolly Hooker". ;) BOSS will order those, right? Or I can tweak them from... would it be within BOSS, or NMM?

(Hopefully these questions will be useful to others following in your modsteps. :) )
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

JasonPratt

#89
NMM says that the Quality World Map Installer has been added. "Installer"? Is that something I should be doing something about directly?


Note: I found the Autosave Manager on your Install list (under user interfaces), so that answers that question.
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!