Fallen Entrantress: Legendary Heroes

Started by Bison, May 12, 2013, 03:08:36 PM

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Huw the Poo

Quote from: bob48 on May 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
:-\ Can't make up me mind. This, Eador or AoW SM.......

Three great games, all with their own pros and cons.  I'd give the edge to AOW:SM though, because it has masses of replayability, is beautifully drawn, atmospheric, has a great soundtrack and is just an all-around joy to play.

Eador is a game that I'd enjoy more if I put more time into it; it's somewhat idiosyncratic and has the steepest learning curve of the three.  The campaigns can be absolutely massive though.

FE:LH is the biggest resource hog of the three by miles, not to mention the most expensive.  It's a lovely-looking game though and is benefiting from constant updates.  In some respects it plays similarly to Civ so you'll probably find it the easiest to get into.

You can't go wrong with any of them, but my money's on AOW:SM.  Why don't you watch some gameplay vids on Youtube?

Bison

Hey!  Don't sully this thread pushing that other game!

The old Eador availble on gog is fun and well worth the $10, but it does have a pretty steep learning curve.  I'm really enjoying FE:LH if you like CIV style 4X but with magic and tactical battles it's got all that too.

mikeck

Played around a little with FE:LH and it is a lot more polished than previous iterations. Seems pretty stable and I'm kind of digging the art. AoW is good too. I did not care for Eador. Seemed very repetitive and once you conquer a shard, you have to start over? How can I role play with a hero if I have to ditch him every new shard
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PanzersEast

I love the feeling of Trolls walking into your capital city while I'm off for a stroll.... are my pants down?

FE:LH can be very unforgiving.


PE

Bison

Verison .95 was released today.  It's coming along nicely.  Now if I could figure out how to survive past the early game in a standard normal game...

Toonces

How does this compare to Disciples 2 and/or 3?

Everytime I log onto Steam I see you (Bison) playing this, so I finally looked into it tonight.  I haven't really ever spent much time on the 4x type games, but I already own AoW:SM and at least one of the Disciples iterations with all the DLC, so I don't know if yet another fantasy 4x is what I need just now.

However, I do dig the boardgame look in that last set of screenshots...
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FarAway Sooner

Each game has its selling points, and I haven't played FE: LH yet, but for me, Eador is on a plane of its own.  The game is DEEP and takes a while to unpack, but it's got huge replay value.  It's also got more of a wargamer's feel than the others.  It was released as a buggy mess, but one month and 8 patches later, it's mostly fixed up and it's obvious that the developer (indie Russian shop Snowbird) is committed to getting it polished up.

FE had an intriguing game system, but the backstory and characters was very meh for me.  Just seemed like a mismatch of random fantasy themes, with no real compelling back story or particular fantasy archetypes that aligned nicely to create a particular game feel.  Great system, but no storyline there that I could tease out.  In that sense, it was a lot like the GalCiv games.

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Quote from: FarAway Sooner on May 21, 2013, 07:48:39 AM
Each game has its selling points, and I haven't played FE: LH yet, but for me, Eador is on a plane of its own.  The game is DEEP and takes a while to unpack, but it's got huge replay value.  It's also got more of a wargamer's feel than the others.  It was released as a buggy mess, but one month and 8 patches later, it's mostly fixed up and it's obvious that the developer (indie Russian shop Snowbird) is committed to getting it polished up.

FE had an intriguing game system, but the backstory and characters was very meh for me.  Just seemed like a mismatch of random fantasy themes, with no real compelling back story or particular fantasy archetypes that aligned nicely to create a particular game feel.  Great system, but no storyline there that I could tease out.  In that sense, it was a lot like the GalCiv games.

I am playing both heavily right now and I would say FE: LH is not light years ahead, but is very far a head of Eador.  There is a lot more depth and strategy to FE:LH than Eador.  Eador has one path and that is simply taking over surrounding settlements when you have your hero and army built up and then the shard, FE:LH has a lot decisions to be made.... where to settle, what type of settlement, you have to work for your Heroes now, they simply are not available to you when you want one.  FE:LH is a lot deeper than Eador, although I will still play and enjoy both.



PE

Bison

I've always felt that 4X games like CIV, GAL CIV, and FE:LH strength doesn't lay in telling the story to you, but giving the framework for you to tell the story of your empire as the turns pass along. 

Yskonyn

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bob48

Quote from: bbmike on May 20, 2013, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: bob48 on May 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
:-\ Can't make up me mind. This, Eador or AoW SM.......

If you had GADD (Game Attention Deficit Disorder) like me you would by them all.  ::)

If I had the money - I would buy 'em all. I have MDD (Money Deficit Disorder)  :(
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Hmm.  Maybe I'll play this instead of Shogun 2... 





Quote from: bob48 on May 21, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: bbmike on May 20, 2013, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: bob48 on May 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
:-\ Can't make up me mind. This, Eador or AoW SM.......

If you had GADD (Game Attention Deficit Disorder) like me you would by them all.  ::)

If I had the money - I would buy 'em all. I have MDD (Money Deficit Disorder)  :(
I have both.  :-[ 

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Wolfe1759

Quote from: Huw the Poo on May 20, 2013, 04:55:01 PM
Hahaha!  Got killed by a wandering monster before settling your first town?

Chose to settle on the only mana resource available (after 5 previous restarts) which was next to a friendly looking beastie ...... it wasn't ..... end of the Empire.

P.S. I wonder if that counts as my first ever AAR ?
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Yskonyn

Tomorrow is the day!

And here is a nice summary (not exhaustive) of what has been changed in between FE and LH:
http://forums.elementalgame.com/444571
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However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

TheCommandTent

One thing I am really enjoying about FE:LH are the outpost.  I know this is a small thing that may not matter to most but I think it is a great feature.  If I was running a real empire I wouldn't be starting cities just to exploit one resource if a strategically weak position but the outpost make this possible.
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