British Soldier Beheaded on London Street

[GDS_Starfury]

Unfortunately that means that there's no way to reform the religion without a significant overhaul of its basic structure. That's something we

Im pretty fine with reformation through nuclear weapons.  Ive always thought the muslim world needs more self lit glass floored parking lots.

[bob48]

Telling our service men and women not to wear uniform on the street is adding insult to injury.

The controversy now is why it took so long for the police to arrive on the scene. Some reports put this as long as 14 minutes, during which time, if these bastards had a mind to, they could have caused even more injuries.

The Muslim leader in the UK has, obviously, condemned the action as 'barbaric' (really?) and disassociated themselves from the atrocity. They must see that actions like these do nothing to endear Islam to non Muslims and can only increase tension and serve to alienate and raise suspicions against Muslims - how much will it take to tip rational people over the edge?

[Centurion40]

Unfortunately that means that there's no way to reform the religion without a significant overhaul of its basic structure. That's something we

Im pretty fine with reformation through nuclear weapons.  Ive always thought the muslim world needs more self lit glass floored parking lots.

Time to change my quote line!

[bayonetbrant]

how to properly express public displeasure.



the world certainly could use more public condemnation of these acts from Islamic authorities.

[bob48]

Agreed.

[Centurion40]

Good for them!  The can see the writing on the wall.

I tried to get into their website to see if the announcement is legit.  I could not get into it.  But I did get onto their Glasgow chapter Facebook site.  A fellow by the name of Mohammed MacLeod (I swear to God!) liked a comment!!

[undercovergeek]

Good for them!  The can see the writing on the wall.

I tried to get into their website to see if the announcement is legit.  I could not get into it.  But I did get onto their Glasgow chapter Facebook site.  A fellow by the name of Mohammed MacLeod (I swear to God!) liked a comment!!

wait til you see a muslim guy talking in a glaswegian accent!

[Centurion40]

I'll wait until I can see such an individual confronted by a wee cheeky ned.

[Gusington]

Muhammed MacLeod?? Sounds a little like Epstein from Welcome Back Kotter.

[Centurion40]

Muhammed MacLeod?? Sounds a little like Epstein from Welcome Back Kotter.

https://www.facebook.com/mohammad.macleod

[Gusington]

"Wrong Muhammed McLeod? Try again." No FB I think this is the right one.

[The Puss]

Britain at least has the benefit of having a large moat around it.

True LB but the drawbridge seems to be permanently down and that is where the UK's problems start.

[MikeGER]

the world certainly could use more public condemnation of these acts from Islamic authorities.

the problem is: Islamic authorities don't exist.

every Muslim has the right to study the Koran and secondary literature to make up his own interpretation of the rules given (especially if he did his studies at an famous Islamic center).
Some Islamic clerics will gather more followers than other, so he has more power of the word, but other Islamic clerics may see things different -together with their scholars-, and in best case both scholars groups will battle it  out, first throwing fatwas against each others and then sending out theirs crowds on a jihad against the other.
But when challenged from the outside they stick together (as long as its favorable for both, a deal with the enemy is always an option to get rid of a competitor) 

What one Muslim (self declared spokesman of one of dozens of splinter group) may say, has absolute no value for other Muslims, now or in the future, and not even for his own little group in the future, when 'insights' may shift by unforeseen incidents...   

in Germany the Secretary of the Interior tried once to get a round table with represent-guys of major local Muslim groups, to speak about security.
what happened was that the Muslim groups fight over each other who is representing whom, and refused to talk about security (forwarding hinds about 'Boston-type' members in the future) at all.
instead they were complaining about being offended as seen as to be under general suspicion and the society getting more islamophobic ...
 
Imagine a Christianity, were each selfdeclared evangelist is a full blown Pope, but with a medieval mind set and his own Swiss Guard, who fight against other 'Popes' with all means as hard as against heretics, pagans, or people of no-beliefs.

So whats the word of such a Pope's spokesperson would be good for a group of 'convert or get killed in the future'-  pagans, who complain about an incident, inflicted on them by not even that Popes roughs ? 

[bob48]

Britain at least has the benefit of having a large moat around it.

True LB but the drawbridge seems to be permanently down and that is where the UK's problems start.

And no one seems to know how, or have the guts, to pull the drawbridge bloody-well up again.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Thoughts and prayers are with the victim, his family, his comrades and the entire British military community.

This kind of barbarism is indicative of the sickness of extreme Islamic culture.  Once the time for mourning has passed, I hope there will be changes made in Britain...and some vengeance.

I bet the SAS will seek and destroy.

Seek and destroy who? This doesn't exactly seem like a long-planned operation being run by a terror organization from a foreign nation.

The reports were that high levels of government were convened to review the incident. They said it was a terror attack almost immediatley. There were probably others involved. Targeting a soldier outside a military base is not random violence. Neither is the manner of the killing. Somebody put a couple of thugs up to it.