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mikeck

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June 23, 2013, 07:55:51 PM
Yes I do Gus, thank you. While I like the agents, they are somewhat limited to telling me the size of an army, opening gates and assassination. Kind of wanted a game where I could really get involved with diplomacy and spies and such. I'm giving SMAC a try as I can't really remember much about it
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Martok

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June 23, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: reapagan on June 23, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
Birth of the Federation is a 4x that handles espionage at the strategic level. Damned Tal Shiar and Obsidian order seemed quite effective as I recall. Basically stealing research, sabotaging your projects, destroying your ships, and giving credits to your enemies to use against you was how it worked. I think giving orders for doing your own espionage was rather vague and consisted more of giving resources to bolster effectiveness.
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Although I now enjoy newer ones like Distant Worlds and Armada 2526, Birth of the Federation has long been my favorite 4x title, one that I recommend to anyone who likes both Star Trek and strategy games. 

However, from what mikeck has said, I don't think BOTF's espionage & diplomacy system has anywhere near the depth he's looking for.  It's enjoyable for other reasons, but the game's intel system is pretty simplistic. 

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mikeck

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June 23, 2013, 09:27:10 PM
Distant worlds has the best espionage system I think. Stealing tech, sabotaging ships, blowing up bases, deep cover, stealing operations maps, assassination, etc. oh we'll. so many 4x's give short shrift to the diplomacy part
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Nefaro

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June 23, 2013, 10:51:56 PM
Quote from: mikeck on June 23, 2013, 03:58:22 PM
Does SMAC from GOG work on windows 7? I keep seeing threads about peoe having to add lines of code or change compatibility modes, etc

I had no problem running the GOG version on my ultrabook.  Didn't need to modify anything at all.  But perhaps I was one of the lucky ones?
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