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PanzersEast

Quote from: W8taminute on July 15, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
I'm tempted to pickup Wargame Airland Battle but I read that the single player campaign is weak.  I'm not really looking to play multiplayer and I don't want to just play single battles either. 

What is the Groghead take on the campaign?

Others can correct me if I am wrong, but I have heard the opposite.


PE

WallysWorld

I just bought the Wargame Franchise Pack which contains both games for $22 US. After reading some of the posts here about the AirLand game, I decided to at least buy the first game for $4.99, but decided both for $22 is a good deal.
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Kushan

Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion is $9.99 for the next 45 hours.
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Hmmm...I think I'll take a flyer on Reus today.

Nefaro

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Quote from: W8taminute on July 15, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
I'm tempted to pickup Wargame Airland Battle but I read that the single player campaign is weak.  I'm not really looking to play multiplayer and I don't want to just play single battles either. 

What is the Groghead take on the campaign?

My complaint about the campaigns is that each individual battle rushes you so much, since each 'day' of battle only allows for 30 minutes of game time before it stops and is continued the next day.  On the bigger tactical maps, with many VP zones, it can take a few days before the zone is decisively won (for well-matched forces).  The forces get more & more fatigue while doing so and this tends to neutralize their effectiveness for the rest of the campaign since it takes quite a few turns to rest them up, and their R&R can also be interrupted.

I still enjoy the campaigns, although they're more difficult than one-off battles for this and other reasons.  This is probably why people criticize the WALB campaigns - because they're more difficult than single battles. 

I still think the single battles are pretty fun, too, notably because the 'Deck Building' part of the game lets you play with a lot of different force combinations & units so there can be a lot of variety.  The AI is a decent challenge on Normal, for beginners and comes into it's own on Hard IMO.

PanzersEast

Quote from: Nefaro on July 15, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
I still think the single battles are pretty fun, too, notably because the 'Deck Building' part of the game lets you play with a lot of different force combinations & units so there can be a lot of variety.  The AI is a decent challenge on Normal, for beginners and comes into it's own on Hard IMO.

So the skirmish mode is up to par then?  ... in terms of fun and challenge.


PE

Nefaro

Quote from: PanzersEast on July 15, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on July 15, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
I still think the single battles are pretty fun, too, notably because the 'Deck Building' part of the game lets you play with a lot of different force combinations & units so there can be a lot of variety.  The AI is a decent challenge on Normal, for beginners and comes into it's own on Hard IMO.

So the skirmish mode is up to par then?  ... in terms of fun and challenge.


PE

Sure!

That's mostly how I've played it.

W8taminute

Thanks Nefaro for the feedback.  I pretty much read the same thing about battles in the campaign being too short.  When the forces continue the battle on the next day they are fatigued and hence the more difficult it is to win. 

I wonder if the reason why everyone is complaining about this aspect of the campaign is because they don't know how to rotate units/armies in battle?  Is that the case?  If I commit an army to a battle that last for more than one day can I pull them out and put in a replacement army or even substitute individual units in a group?
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JudgeDredd

I think I'm more tempted by OOTP14 which is half price just now!
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smittyohio

Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 15, 2013, 04:31:28 PM
I think I'm more tempted by OOTP14 which is half price just now!

Yup, me too... I'd been tempted before at 40 bucks, but just wasn't sure I'd really play it enough.  At 20 dollars, it was a no-brainer for me.

Nefaro

Quote from: W8taminute on July 15, 2013, 03:49:19 PM
Thanks Nefaro for the feedback.  I pretty much read the same thing about battles in the campaign being too short.  When the forces continue the battle on the next day they are fatigued and hence the more difficult it is to win. 

I wonder if the reason why everyone is complaining about this aspect of the campaign is because they don't know how to rotate units/armies in battle?  Is that the case?  If I commit an army to a battle that last for more than one day can I pull them out and put in a replacement army or even substitute individual units in a group?

The idea is to obviously rotate units into the fray & out but in the first couple campaigns (the smaller ones), there isn't enough units available to properly do so while still expecting to push on and achieve a win by the end of the time limit.   Perhaps it's easier to do in the larger campaigns because you have more troops, but then again you also have more area to cover so I dunno.  I haven't played the larger ones (yet!) because I got caught up in building 'decks' and playing them against the AI in skirmishes so much.  That's a good thing because there's still a lot of gaming to be had with it.  ;D

JudgeDredd

Well - I eventually bought Sins of a Solar Empire:Rebellion....I have no idea why because I'm not a huge fan of RTS but I always look at the videos in awe and think it looks pretty beautiful - that and the low price made me feel I had to make the purchase this time.

OOTP14 is definitely on my radar also - but I want to check out the changes between that and 13 before I do purchase - otherwise I'll wait for 15
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Huw the Poo

Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 16, 2013, 01:46:51 AM
Well - I eventually bought Sins of a Solar Empire:Rebellion....I have no idea why because I'm not a huge fan of RTS but I always look at the videos in awe and think it looks pretty beautiful - that and the low price made me feel I had to make the purchase this time.

Give it a fair crack of the whip...Sins is an incredible game!

undercovergeek

nothing tempting yet (for me personally) but there sure are some good deals around

remind me never to buy any games in may/june - i paid £60 for Wargame:ALB and Shogun II for a now combined price of £20!

Kushan

Quote from: undercovergeek on July 16, 2013, 05:35:12 AM
remind me never to buy any games in may/june - i paid £60 for Wargame:ALB and Shogun II for a now combined price of £20!

I'm surprised Wargame ALB is on sale for that price. I figured it would still be too new for a 50% discount. Still I don't regret paying full price for the game. Steam sales are good for the those games I'm on the fence about or wouldn't normally buy. Not sure if they are actually profitable to the developers themselves though. And I'd like to see the guys who did Wargame get paid for their efforts so we can see more from them.
PanzersEast: Have to think to myself.... will I play the first one by the Winter Sale?  Probably not, then I should remove Dragonfall
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